NYCOM Discussion Thread 2009-2010

[USB Stick]

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I guess this route is all and fine for those who only applied to NYCOM, but I already have been accepted to another school. Although, NYCOM is my first choice and I'd hate to take Med-Prep over a guarantee acceptance and end up not being accepted into NYCOM (over reasons beyond my control since it is a conditional acceptance). Man, I wish they would get back to me already! Argh!!!

 

[USB Stick]

I'm not sure if my email deviates from those who received theirs so I'm just going to copy and paste what I got and you guys tell me if that's the exact same email you received.

Dear NYCOM Applicant:

NYCOM has been awarded a Health Careers Opportunity Program (HCOP) grant from the U.S. Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA). You have identified yourself as economically disadvantaged based on your application for admissions to NYCOM.

Students who are admitted to NYCOM and meet the HCOP criteria will be provided with a variety of services geared to promoting success. Some services include:

· Med Prep I – Summer pre-matriculated conditional acceptance program with a stipend.
· Weekly two hour de-briefing review sessions for matriculated students coordinated by a learning specialist.
· On site COMLEX board preparation courses funded for Med Prep II students enrolled in their second year.
· Financial aid information sessions.

If you wish to be considered for participation in the HCOP program, you must submit the following documentation:
· Federal and State Income tax return for 2008 for both you and your parents. (Parental data is required regardless of age, dependency status or marital status.)
· The following income levels will be used:

Numbers of Exemptions on parent’s tax return Income Level
1 $20,240.00
2 $27,380.00
3 $34,340.00
4 $41,300.00
5 $48,260.00
6 $55,220.00

Please submit this information within two weeks of receipt of this letter. All documentation will be kept confidential and must be sent to the Office of Admissions at the following address:

New York College of Osteopathic Medicine of NYIT
Office of Admissions
Northern Blvd. PO Box 8000
Old Westbury, NY 11569-8000 Tel (516) 686-3747 Fax (516) 686-3831


Rodika Zaika Lois Small
Director of Admissions HCOP Project Manager

 

[robu058]

This was your original post, I am saying that your friend has an option to either go to NYCOM directly or MED PREP program. He didn't all of a sudden apply to NYCOM med program and got into the MED PREP. He has to be accepted to NYCOM in order to pick MED PREP.

No bowlin123, this is why my friend was frustrated. He DID NOT apply to MED-Prep program. Rather, he was selected for it. He applied ONLY to NYCOM class of 2014. Since my friend had that experience, I was wondering if that was the case with Drexel. Do they just select you into their med prep program without your consent when you originally apply to their medical school, as NYCOM has done to my friend?

 

[bowlin123]

No bowlin123, this is why my friend was frustrated. He DID NOT apply to MED-Prep program. Rather, he was selected for it. He applied ONLY to NYCOM class of 2014. Since my friend had that experience, I was wondering if that was the case with Drexel. Do they just select you into their med prep program without your consent when you originally apply to their medical school, as NYCOM has done to my friend?

See that's where our opinions diverge. First, we were talking about the same thing. He applied to NYCOM and wasn't selected by the school to attend med prep, he has an option to either go to NYCOM directly or go to med prep. Similarly, if a person apply to drexel and were told to go to drexel SOM or some other programs, I don't think that's unethical. Since the person can decide for himself/herself.

 

[thatgirl54]

Accepted NYCOM class of 2014 👍

 

[robu058]

Bowlin123, did you carefully read the last letter on the previous page? The only choice my friend has is to attend MED-PREP or else! He was not offered acceptance nor received a letter of rejection or waitlist from NYCOM. He only received the MED PREP letter. So, where's the choice????

If you carefully read the last letter, his only hope is that "students who SUCCESSFULLY complete the MED PREP Program will be CONSIDERED (not automatically accepted) for acceptance into the 2010 entering class." If this is not clear to you, I am not sure what language you will understand it!

 

[thatgirl54]

Interviewed 1/14, anyone hear about admissions updates?

i interviewed 1/14 as well...

recevied my acceptance last week

 

[bowlin123]

Bowlin123, did you carefully read the last letter on the previous page? The only choice my friend has is to attend MED-PREP or else! He was not offered acceptance nor received a letter of rejection or waitlist from NYCOM. He only received the MED PREP letter. So, where's the choice????

If you carefully read the last letter, his only hope is that "students who SUCCESSFULLY complete the MED PREP Program will be CONSIDERED (not automatically accepted) for acceptance into the 2010 entering class." If this is not clear to you, I am not sure what language you will understand it!

First of all, I shouldn't be arguing with you, since you didn't even apply to NYCOM nor were a candidate for MED-PREP. I think we do indeed have a language/understanding barrier here, since you were speaking in the third person pronoun and not in the first person noun, like me. You are in no way to understand what your friend was originally offered. Maybe in the beginning, he was offered the same letter and opt out of the direct acceptance to NYCOM and decided to go to the MED PREP program. Second, there were a lot of people who would do something like that in order to avoid paying exorbitant deposit and hope to get into their "dream" schools from the waitlist. I don't want to argue with you anymore. If you would like to continue this argument, get your friend to talk to me. Thanks.

 

[bowlin123]

i interviewed 1/14 as well...

recevied my acceptance last week

Congrats

 

[robu058]

You are one of those stubborn people who will not believe anything until it smacks you right in your face. Anyway, to entertain yourself, visit last year thread about NYCOM’s MED-PREP here on SDN

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=523117

 

[blueskies486]

Ugh...I think they are going to offer me the med prep program. Admissions called me today asking for my parents tax forms and saying they couldnt make a decision regarding my application until they were in...why else would they be so adamant about receiving this information, unless they want to make sure that I am eligible for the HCOP program before admitting me to med prep? I agree with a previous poster, they should have made clear WHAT they were interviewing me for when they extended the invitation. Thoughts? Opinions?

Just so I'm clear...even if you do the med prep program, and maintain a B average, you are still only CONSIDERED for admission?

where are these stats coming from? (the 24 out of 25 people being admitted.)

 

[robu058]

NYCOM Medprep is absolutely not a postbach program (which is what you're explaining). It is a course given over the summer before 1st year starts, where you go through some of the stuff you will learn in medical school, and if you pass the exams, you are accepted into the 1st year class beginning that august (so currently the class of 2012). I didn't do the program myself, so I don't know many specifics, but do a search on here, because I know there was a somewhat recent thread about this, and there were some sdn'ers on there that went through the program.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=523117

 

[bowlin123]

Just to reiterate my position I mentioned "If you would like to continue this argument, get your friend to talk to me. Thanks." and to quote you as well "If this is not clear to you, I am not sure what language you will understand it!"

 

[robu058]

Bowlin123, get back to us when you call in the adcom tomorrow. Then, you will eat a crow, as I know you would lose, and I would cook it myself..lol

 

[robu058]

Ugh...I think they are going to offer me the med prep program. Admissions called me today asking for my parents tax forms and saying they couldnt make a decision regarding my application until they were in...why else would they be so adamant about receiving this information, unless they want to make sure that I am eligible for the HCOP program before admitting me to med prep? I agree with a previous poster, they should have made clear WHAT they were interviewing me for when they extended the invitation. Thoughts? Opinions?

Just so I'm clear...even if you do the med prep program, and maintain a B average, you are still only CONSIDERED for admission?

where are these stats coming from? (the 24 out of 25 people being admitted.)

From what I gathered. This program started in 2003. Initially, about 20 applicants were selected and invited. Out of which the top 5 were eventually admitted into the DO program. However, they changed this program about 2 years ago. Prospects no longer have to compete among themselves. The only competition is among yourself: to study or not to study, to maintain a "B" average or not to maintain it. Thus, according to last year stats (I read it somewhere here), out of 25 prospects, 24 were matriculated. This program is not there to weed people out, it is just there to prepare you on a tough journey. To me, it is pretty close as being accepted, but not really! PLUS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND, YOU KNOW, THE DOH (you know, the $1500 deposit)!

Think about it, at any med schools, you have to maintain a B-average. If you can't maintain that B-average on a summer program, would you ever be prepared for medical school?

 

[blueskies486]

Thanks for the help, and for posting the link to last years' thread about the program. It seems like a pretty good deal...and not paying the $1500 deposit is pretty sweet!

 

[DoctorBoom]

Hmm... So if I received a letter saying "On behalf of the Committee on Admissions, blah blah you have been accepted to the 2010 Entering class at NYCOM...and is contingent upon successful completion of all requirements for admission prior to matriculation" this would be a normal acceptence and i don't have to go through MEDPREP???
Never heard of the program but seems like such an hassle. Any accepted students receive the same letter as I did only to find out later you need to do MEDPREP??

 

[blueskies486]

If you go back and read the thread, medprep is available for HCOP applicants only. But, either way, you were accepted normally. If you had been accepted to medprep, they would have TOLD you that you were accepted to medprep.

 

[USB Stick]

If it's true that HCOP pool of applicants are only offered Med-Prep as oppose to regular admission then it truly blows and I'll kindly reject them. Now, I'm more eager to get my decision. BTW, I interviewed on the 20th. It's going to be exactly 2 weeks tomorrow.... 😀

 

[DoctorBoom]

class of 2014 should meet up before class starts!🙂 have dinner or something and some liquor lol we all worked hard to get to this point

 

[softmed]

Ehhhh I have seen that exact same website...I am skeptical about its credibility...honestly, unless the numbers come from NYCOM itself or the AACOM...I am not really going to completely trust them

I can say that most of the MD schools are in the right ballpark. If the numbers didn't seem to add up I would say it was some kind of typo, but whoever put them up was quite convinced these numbers were correct. Has anyone in the thread been rejected post interview?

 

[deleted212936]

About the MEDPREP program, can you apply to the program, or must be invited by the committee?

 

[robu058]

About the MEDPREP program, can you apply to the program, or must be invited by the committee?

They initially interview you as a regular NYCOM med school applicant. After reviewing your files, instead of having the usual 3 options (acceptance, waitlisted, or rejection), NYCOM adcom have a 4th one: MED-PREP, a 6-week boot camp: if you pass it (maintaining a B-average), you are automatically in.

One big plus about this option (MED-PREP), you won't have to cough up the $1500 deposit fees.

 

[blueskies486]

I can say that most of the MD schools are in the right ballpark. If the numbers didn't seem to add up I would say it was some kind of typo, but whoever put them up was quite convinced these numbers were correct. Has anyone in the thread been rejected post interview?

I have been reading through last cycle's thread and this cycle's thread, and people DO get rejected...it appears to be a silent rejection though. A few people have been waitlisted also, from what I remember. I don't know, those numbers just seem insanely high...

 

[blueskies486]

They initially interview you as a regular NYCOM med school applicant. After reviewing your files, instead of having the usual 3 options (acceptance, waitlisted, or rejection), NYCOM adcom have a 4th one: MED-PREP, a 6-week boot camp: if you pass it (maintaining a B-average), you are automatically in.

One big plus about this option (MED-PREP), you won't have to cough up the $1500 deposit fees.

OK sorry for all the questions ( : But if you get accepted into MEDPREP, you are only accepted into MEDPREP, right? So if I turn it down, then I have no other shot at nycom? Or do you get put on the waitlist or something?

 

[SuiteP]

Hey!

I interviewed on 1/19. How long do I have to wait before I hear a reply. NYCOM is my 1st choice so the wait is killing me. I was wondering if anyone knew when the committee was going to get together and make their decision and when would they send out replies?

I thought you'd like to know that I interviewed 1/20 and just received the acceptance letter in the mail today. Good luck!

 

[USB Stick]

SuiteP:

Cool! Where do you live and was it in a big envelope or a small one? I should keep an eye out for it tonight.

 

[SuiteP]

I live in Central Jersey and sorry, I have honestly no idea. I live on campus and it was sent to my home address. I, unfortunately, did not have the pleasure of opening the acceptance letter myself. My mom called me in a rather monotonous voice to congratulate me. ='( I wish you all the best though!

 

[robu058]

OK sorry for all the questions ( : But if you get accepted into MEDPREP, you are only accepted into MEDPREP, right? So if I turn it down, then I have no other shot at nycom? Or do you get put on the waitlist or something?

That! I have no idea! Why don't you find out for us and share your finding(s)? Give the admissions people a call!!!

 

[EMH Mark V]

SuiteP:

Cool! Where do you live and was it in a big envelope or a small one? I should keep an eye out for it tonight.

Its a large manila-type sized envelope, except it is white and not beige colored. Good luck to everyone that's still waiting!

 

[softmed]

I have been reading through last cycle's thread and this cycle's thread, and people DO get rejected...it appears to be a silent rejection though. A few people have been waitlisted also, from what I remember. I don't know, those numbers just seem insanely high...

I haven't seen anyone get rejected this cycle so far. I could be wrong though.

The numbers seem to make sense. They only interview 3 times a week. They start in November, end by May. It's certainly possible that they only interview 500-600 people. And if their class is 295, they definitely need to accept at least 500 people to fill that size class.

Even if people have gotten rejected so far, there are many, MANY more acceptances than any MD thread I've seen so far. The post interview proportion is definitely closer to 100% than 50%.

But this is all conjecture. Maybe there is a more reliable way to find these statistics.

 

[blueskies486]

I haven't seen anyone get rejected this cycle so far. I could be wrong though.

The numbers seem to make sense. They only interview 3 times a week. They start in November, end by May. It's certainly possible that they only interview 500-600 people. And if their class is 295, they definitely need to accept at least 500 people to fill that size class.

Even if people have gotten rejected so far, there are many, MANY more acceptances than any MD thread I've seen so far. The post interview proportion is definitely closer to 100% than 50%.

But this is all conjecture. Maybe there is a more reliable way to find these statistics.

This is a quote someone posted on last year's thread:

"I was told from the admissions office that the entering class class year had an overall GPA of 3.5 and an average MCAT of 27. Over 5000 students applied for admissions. 700 were interviewed and 2/3 of the interviewees were accepted to fill a class of 300 students."

So if that info really is from admissions...it is probably true. Either way, they do accept a pretty good amount of people that they interview.

 

[Semicolon]

Keep in mind that your 1,500 deposit is deducted from the tuition for the first half of the year. So even if you don't pay a deposit for the Med-Prep program, and assuming you get into the class, you'll still need to pay that 1,500 as part of your tuition. So there really is no advantage in the end. 😉

Good luck!

 

[bowlin123]

Keep in mind that your 1,500 deposit is deducted from the tuition for the first half of the year. So even if you don't pay a deposit for the Med-Prep program, and assuming you get into the class, you'll still need to pay that 1,500 as part of your tuition. So there really is no advantage in the end. 😉

Good luck!

If the person eventually decided to go to NYCOM, then yes, there would be no advantage of not paying a deposit due to the HCOP program. It would be an advantage to those whose first choice is, for instance, TUCOM-NY or PCOM, and who would like to have all the options in front of them before they get to decide.

 

[reese07]

Does applying early to nycom when your OOS matter? Ill be taking my MCAT July 30, is that too late?

 

[bowlin123]

Does applying early to nycom when your OOS matter? Ill be taking my MCAT July 30, is that too late?

I don't think that matters. NYCOM doesn't start interviewing applicants until November and usually they interview in-state students first in November and December. During my interview in November, there was only one OOS applicant whose interview was supposed to be sometimes in January but had it re-scheduled because another person decided to cancel theirs.

 

[blueskies486]

Does applying early to nycom when your OOS matter? Ill be taking my MCAT July 30, is that too late?

You should be ok. I took the MCAT last July 31st. I still got a NYCOM interview.

 

[reese07]

Did you apply as an OOS?

 

[shinny04]

I completed my application in late Nov/early Dec. I have not heard anything from them. I am OOS. What's their stat for OOS? How full is the class?

 

[shinny04]

How did they do their selection for MED-PREP program? What's GPA/MCAT for that?

They initially interview you as a regular NYCOM med school applicant. After reviewing your files, instead of having the usual 3 options (acceptance, waitlisted, or rejection), NYCOM adcom have a 4th one: MED-PREP, a 6-week boot camp: if you pass it (maintaining a B-average), you are automatically in.

One big plus about this option (MED-PREP), you won't have to cough up the $1500 deposit fees.

 

[DoctorBoom]

Any attending NYCOM student explain how H/P/F system works at NYCOM? Are students ranked?

 

[blueskies486]

Did you apply as an OOS?

I am OOS, but a very close state...I am from New Jersey. They seem to start interviewing slightly later than some of the other schools. They also apparently do in-state before OOS. I got an email back in November (mid-November or so) and the earliest schedule time they were able to give me was January 12th. They interview very late into the cycle as well. You should be fine.

 

[calabash]

first, what is OOS? Second, I just had my interview yesterday and it went really well. However I was reading Usdin on the way home and now fear I was only being interviewed for med prep. Do they not even tell you about the program until they tell you your in it? If you received an email for HCOP does that mean your interview is automatically for med prep? Is it a weeder program? I see somewhere that someone said 24 out of 25 got in, but is that just hearsay? Where do you live for the 6 weeks that you do this course? Whats the process after the med prep course? I'm freaking out because if I have a lease in Philly until August and a really good research job that once I leave I will be replaced. NYCOM is my top school and I want to go there so bad, but I fear doing med prep, paying rent here and there, then not getting into NYCOM and then being unemployed. Can some ex med preppers give me their advice?? Suggestions??

 

[robu058]

first, what is OOS? Second, I just had my interview yesterday and it went really well. However I was reading Usdin on the way home and now fear I was only being interviewed for med prep. Do they not even tell you about the program until they tell you your in it? If you received an email for HCOP does that mean your interview is automatically for med prep? Is it a weeder program? I see somewhere that someone said 24 out of 25 got in, but is that just hearsay? Where do you live for the 6 weeks that you do this course? Whats the process after the med prep course? I'm freaking out because if I have a lease in Philly until August and a really good research job that once I leave I will be replaced. NYCOM is my top school and I want to go there so bad, but I fear doing med prep, paying rent here and there, then not getting into NYCOM and then being unemployed. Can some ex med preppers give me their advice?? Suggestions??

Honestly, did you bother to read the previous postings about MED-PREP in this thread?? If you did, you would realize that most of your questions have been posted! I don't see any of your questions worth answering since most, if not all, have already been answered!

 

[The Poet Sings]

first, what is OOS? Second, I just had my interview yesterday and it went really well. However I was reading Usdin on the way home and now fear I was only being interviewed for med prep. Do they not even tell you about the program until they tell you your in it? If you received an email for HCOP does that mean your interview is automatically for med prep? Is it a weeder program? I see somewhere that someone said 24 out of 25 got in, but is that just hearsay? Where do you live for the 6 weeks that you do this course? Whats the process after the med prep course? I'm freaking out because if I have a lease in Philly until August and a really good research job that once I leave I will be replaced. NYCOM is my top school and I want to go there so bad, but I fear doing med prep, paying rent here and there, then not getting into NYCOM and then being unemployed. Can some ex med preppers give me their advice?? Suggestions??

OOS means out of state. the other questions, as someone else said, have most likely been answered already if you go back a few pages. i see that you read the 24/25 part, just go a little further back and you'll find where the program was being talked about in detail. if you still can't find it i can help you, but i know nothing about the program more than what people have already said on here.

 

[USB Stick]

Well I just called NYCOM and asked to be withdrawn from the HCOP program. She then told me that interviews are given out to applicants based on the HCOP program (Med-Prep) or based on regular NYCOM DO program, but the thing is WE DON'T know which program we're being interviewed for. Also, getting the HCOP email doesn't mean you were interviewing for Med-Prep. I asked whether I was interviewed for the 'regular program' or the Med-Prep and she said I interviewed as a regular applicant. Just a FYI.

Still haven't received a decision and I interviewed on 01/20. Don't think I got into NYCOM or either I will be waitlisted. Oh well. Guess I'll end up going to the other school.

 

[robu058]

.... getting the HCOP email doesn't mean you were interviewing for Med-Prep...

Thanks USB Stick, you have proved my previous speculation right. This is what I said before:

There must be a difference between accepted into NYCOM and join their HCOP program vs. MED-PREP....if you are accepted into NYCOM and depending on your financial circumstances, you can be admitted into the HCOP. As a HCOP scholar, you have the option to attend MED-PREP programs. However, if you are selected to attend MED-PREP, you are in no way accepted into NYCOM unless you attend their 6-week program and maintain a B-average

 

[robu058]

Still haven't received a decision and I interviewed on 01/20. Don't think I got into NYCOM or either I will be waitlisted. Oh well. Guess I'll end up going to the other school.

Don't worry about it! I am sure you did alright! How did you think you do?

 

[USB Stick]

I think the interviewer and I hit it off real well. I'm speculating that I might be placed on the WL or rejected because another member on this forum who interviewed on the 20th received their acceptance yesterday. I live in Queens and I still haven't received mine.

Those who interviewed on the week of 01/18 to 01/22 please step up. 🙂

So far only SuiteP from Central Jersey who interviewed on the 20th of Jan received his/her acceptance from NYCOM.

 

[robu058]

USB Stick, Let me try to convince you on something, bro! Say, you were accepted into MED-PREP, I think you should do it. Here is why!

You got nothing to lose bro! You don't have to pay for a dime. Heck, they will even pay for a place for you to stay. Second, the program runs from May 25th to July 2nd. It means that you still can hold your spot into your ACCEPTED DO program. You just have to fill out all the necessary and required paperwork that the other program DO would make you do. You don't tell them anything. You just go to NYCOM's MED-PREP. By July 2nd, you will know whether or not you are accepted into NYCOM. If you are eventually accepted into NYCOM and this school is your #1 choice, you just call your other DO school and decline their acceptance offer. Case closed! Remember, most DO schools won't start until Mid-August and you can decline your acceptance at any time. On a side note, beware by May 15th, you can only hold 1 admission spot!

Anyway, say, for whatever reasons, you failed MED-PREP and NYCOM does not accept you! So, you would just go to your accepted DO program. Bottom line: This MED-PREP would tell you your strengths and weaknesses whether you passed their courses or not. If you did not pass their courses, you would have another month to get prepared for your previously accepted medical schools.

I would strongly advise anyone who got in to MED-PREP to give it a try even though you are accepted into another DO program and even if NYCOM is NOT your top school. This program just gives you a chance to know what medical school entails! Remember, even though NYCOM eventually accepts you after you complete the MED-PREP program, you don't have to go (I don't think you sign a contract).