NYU advice

[pacbum]

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alright, so I know there have been a bunch of threads about every school, and I've been trying to do research, but I frankly want to know how happy NYU students are. I think the school has great resources and good research opportunities, and I like the way the curriculum is taught. My one concern is that you are just a number at NYU compared to other schools. To me, it seemed they were just after the money. I went to a large undergrad school, and personally I hated that impersonal feeling and the bureaucracy I'm hoping NYU doesn't have that feel to it, but I wanted input from the students. I know you make what you will at any school, and it's all about your effort, but does NYU really think of you as just tuition? I have many other choices, but I felt that NYU would be a good school, and would love to live in Manhatten. I just don't know if I could justify throwing away all the other acceptances (including one to Ivy League schools) for a school that thought of me as just a number. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[shamrock2006]

I'm not a student there, but I have a good friend who is a D1 there and he told me you will only be a "number" if you make it so. It is a big school, so nobody is going to hold your hand and come to you. You have to be the one to make the effort to get to know people in the departments.

 

[mymouthsmells]

I am also not a student there but I know enough to understand that every d-school has a business agenda and NYU is no different. However, they are not out there to steal your tuition, that is ridiculous. Living expenses of NYC dictate the reason why it is expensive to attend, that's all.

I never fully understood why people complain about just being a number in d-school. Part of being a professional is to be independent and mature- hand holding isn't part of that and I don't see why one can't take a self proactive approach in their own studies. If there is any consolidation, remember that the student-faculty ratio is actually smaller than most schools. Don't worry about NYU, I'm sure you'll be happy there if you work hard 🙂.

 

[gujudentist]

i shadowed an oral surgeon and orthodontist who went to nyu (both are in their 40s now) and have a couple of family friends, and college friends who go/went there. With that said, by in large, they feel that they come out knowing how to handle any case. They were always booked (in the clinic) and since its nyc, you see everything, from soccer moms to homeless people to druggies (and the ill-effects it has on teeth and thus how to proceed with treatments, etc etc)...

also, having done research there, i have to say the people are amazingly qualified. The biomaterials department is lauded as the best in the nation...This guy, Dr. Tim Bromage is the leading expert in biomaterials. I did research on implants and again...good stuff.

*sigh*...i am always gonna wonder "what-if"...ive gotten in there and two other places and most likely wont go to nyu cuz of the class size. But if you can overlook that, i say its better than any ivy-league or whatever. nyc is amazing and you honestly have the whole world wrapped up in a 10 mile radius.

 

[pacbum]

I am also not a student there but I know enough to understand that every d-school has a business agenda and NYU is no different. However, they are not out there to steal your tuition, that is ridiculous. Living expenses of NYC dictate the reason why it is expensive to attend, that's all.

I never fully understood why people complain about just being a number in d-school. Part of being a professional is to be independent and mature- hand holding isn't part of that and I don't see why one can't take a self proactive approach in their own studies. If there is any consolidation, remember that the student-faculty ratio is actually smaller than most schools. Don't worry about NYU, I'm sure you'll be happy there if you work hard 🙂.

well i know that you get what you put in whereever...that's not really my concern. like i said, i went to a big undergrad school where they could care less about the students. i put in tons of effort, and would say that i have a pretty stellar resume to show for it. i don't expect to be any different in d-school. my problem was with the way our undergrad treated us...they did everything possible to make our lives miserable. counseling was terrible. and you really felt like you were only a means of tuition. i felt that was the only true drawback to nyu. i don't believe all that other bunk about it being a bad school or a safety school, because I liked it when i was there. tuition is actually cheaper than many other private schools...living in NYC is obviously not, but you pay for what you get, and Manhatten is what you get...so I have no qualms about the tuition. and like i said, I'd be giving up acceptances to premiere schools...and just didn't want to do that at the cost of being treated like a number

but thanks for the help guys

 

[Jaybe]

The ONLY thing you should worry about is the amount of clinical experience you will get. Find out how many crowns, dentures, partials, fillings, veneers, etc. that the average student does. Go to the school with the greatest clinical experience.

Unless you plan on becoming a career academician, "Ivy League" branding doesn't mean crap when it comes to dental school. (No offense to you Ivy Leaguers out there). It won't really help you get into residencies, either. Dentistry isn't like going into Corporate business, Academia, or Politics. Your patients won't care if you went to NYU, Harvard, or the University of Montana 🙂laugh: ). And they aren't going to care (or know) if you were first in your class or last. They just want someone who does good work and doesn't hurt.

 

[shabu2]

Go to the school that is the cheapest and gives you the best clinical experience. 👍

 

[fruity_trident]

did anybody from nyucd actually respond to u?
sorry i'm a bit late. i'm procrastinating like crazy, can't seem to concentrate on studying...so that's why i'm on sdn. oh this thing brings back "good" memories.


anyways. i'm happy @ NYUCD. everybody can say positive & negative things about every school.
i'm sure some of my classmates could be happier & others need to be shot w/ a tranquilizer gun... it's up to YOU to make the most of your education & experience @ whatever school you end up choosing.

goodluck!👍 😉

 

[Teaspoon2007]

Ok, so here it is from an NYU 4th yr student.
NYU is a big school, but you will not disappear in the numbers. You WILL have to reach out for opportunities beyond the typical dental experience. Once you are in clinic, the faculty ratio allows the education you need to feel competent. You will have more than enough opportunity to get the help/ attention you need to learn and improve. You will not be deprived of learning experience. You clinic schedule will be booked and your patient roster will be larger than you want it to be.

Are they out for our tuition? Well... it IS steep, but the school is making some major changes/ updates (i.e. new clinics). There is a new requirement to reach a certain PMV (production model value), dollar amount, for the school before you are allowed to graduate that makes you feel a little used, but all and all it is a good opportunity for healthy competition amongst your classmates.

All and all, NYU has provided me with a good education. I feel prepared for the real world, even though I am in an extreme amount of debt (more to living expenses in NYC than anything else).

 

[shamrock2006]

Ok, so here it is from an NYU 4th yr student.
NYU is a big school, but you will not disappear in the numbers. You WILL have to reach out for opportunities beyond the typical dental experience. Once you are in clinic, the faculty ratio allows the education you need to feel competent. You will have more than enough opportunity to get the help/ attention you need to learn and improve. You will not be deprived of learning experience. You clinic schedule will be booked and your patient roster will be larger than you want it to be.

Are they out for our tuition? Well... it IS steep, but the school is making some major changes/ updates (i.e. new clinics). There is a new requirement to reach a certain PMV (production model value), dollar amount, for the school before you are allowed to graduate that makes you feel a little used, but all and all it is a good opportunity for healthy competition amongst your classmates.

All and all, NYU has provided me with a good education. I feel prepared for the real world, even though I am in an extreme amount of debt (more to living expenses in NYC than anything else).

Would you say that the clinical requirements are tough? I've been accepted at NYU, liked what I saw, but I dont remember what they really said about how much of every procedure you need to do. I want them to be tough at wherever I attend, which will probably be NYU. I"m assuming you have to do/will see a pretty solid amount right?? I also remember hearing you are trained pretty thoroughly in aesthetic aspects of dentistry...veneers, invisalign...is that also true??

 

[pacbum]

thanks for your post, trident and teaspoon...it's really helpful to us predents to hear how actual students feel about the school

i'm also kinda curious, like shamrock is, about things like invisalign, veneers, etc? i think that was one of the most appealing components about nyu, is the cosmetic dentistry aspect. did you guys do the honors aesthetic program or know anyone that was involved in it at all? any insight on this would be greatly helpful. thanks again!

 

[shabu2]

Ok, so here it is from an NYU 4th yr student.
NYU is a big school, but you will not disappear in the numbers. You WILL have to reach out for opportunities beyond the typical dental experience. Once you are in clinic, the faculty ratio allows the education you need to feel competent. You will have more than enough opportunity to get the help/ attention you need to learn and improve. You will not be deprived of learning experience. You clinic schedule will be booked and your patient roster will be larger than you want it to be.

Are they out for our tuition? Well... it IS steep, but the school is making some major changes/ updates (i.e. new clinics). There is a new requirement to reach a certain PMV (production model value), dollar amount, for the school before you are allowed to graduate that makes you feel a little used, but all and all it is a good opportunity for healthy competition amongst your classmates.

All and all, NYU has provided me with a good education. I feel prepared for the real world, even though I am in an extreme amount of debt (more to living expenses in NYC than anything else).

Has combining with the nursing school have any impact on D-school there yet?

 

[DDSY]

I'm assuming nursing school (mostly females) makes it a better place for dental students (mostly males) and vice versa

Has combining with the nursing school have any impact on D-school there yet?

 

[helpfuldoc2b]

I'm assuming nursing school (mostly females) makes it a better place for dental students (mostly males) and vice versa

Did they combine the classes? Or just the colleges?

 

[phremius]

Did they combine the classes? Or just the colleges?

they dont' combine classes, everyone's on separate schedules, I've never run into a nursing student.

The only thing that matters (so far) is that during inter-college competitions between NYU campuses the Dental Team is drawn from Nursing and Hygiene students as well.

 

[shamrock2006]

Is it recommened for an incoming student to start collecting teeth? I know some schools will tell you to stock pile as many as you can, but does NYU have that same requirement? Or is that something to just hold off on until we actually get there?

 

[Dental916]

They'll tell you all about it once you get into classes. No need to worry yet.

 

[Mila]

They'll tell you all about it once you get into classes. No need to worry yet.

Really? I thought we had to start over the summer?

 

[shamrock2006]

They'll tell you all about it once you get into classes. No need to worry yet.

I've been reading/responding to posts recently regarding NYU. Some of the responses are positive, but there are some that are saying thigns like "the debt isn't worth coming here" or "we only have to do like 5 crowns and 5 endos to graduate" (basically saying the clinical education sucks)....is all this true? Is it a common feeling among NYUCD students or is it an exception? I'm wondering cuz i've gotten into NYU and nowhere else yet, but if something else comes up and I choose NYU...i dont want to regret it. Any input would be awesome..thanks!

 

[Angle Jr.]

I am just in my first year, but I am 100% happy with my decision to have come to NYUCD. The faculty members are very nice, and all the basic science courses are very well-organized. In my undergrad I had a lot of basic science courses in which information was presented in a disorganized manner, but here you are almost spoon-fed by perfectly organized handouts and ppt. presentations. It is also very nice to have all the lectures recorded by the transcription service. And I think our preclinical lab requirements are pretty solid. We have as many as 11 practical exams in this semester alone. So far I am very happy with my choice and I really have nothing to complain about the school.

 

[shamrock2006]

I am just in my first year, but I am 100% happy with my decision to have come to NYUCD. The faculty members are very nice, and all the basic science courses are very well-organized. In my undergrad I had a lot of basic science courses in which information was presented in a disorganized manner, but here you are almost spoon-fed by perfectly organized handouts and ppt. presentations. It is also very nice to have all the lectures recorded by the transcription service. And I think our preclinical lab requirements are pretty solid. We have as many as 11 practical exams in this semester alone. So far I am very happy with my choice and I really have nothing to complain about the school.

I know that you said you are in your first year and obviously not in clinic yet, but can you give any insight into what the clinical education is like? as I posted earlier, i've been getting more negative responses than positive...that the patient pool isn't as big as people say..that the graduation requirements are really minimal, etc...any thoughts?

 

[Angle Jr.]

I guess you can get more accurate input from current D3 or D4 students than from me, so just wait till some upper year students respond to you... But what I heard about clinical experience from a D4 student in our mentorship meeting was all very positive. As you may know, NYUCD has made remarkable progress under the former dean, and the school is committed to continuing the steep slope of this trajectory. They are improving their curriculum each year, so what the class of 2011 will experience will be different from what the class of 2007 is going through now. I was also accepted to another very good school and it was hard for me to make a decision, but now I think I made an excellent decision in choosing NYUCD.