NYU D4 AMA

[Bifenthrin]

Because I have nothing better to do tonight, or any night for that matter. Graduating in May from NYU, AMA cause I know you kids considering NYU probably have tons of questions.

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[ineedaboosta]

Favorite thing about attending NYU? Least favorite (besides cost)?

 

[acesofseven]

Because I have nothing better to do tonight, or any night for that matter. Graduating in May from NYU, AMA cause I know you kids considering NYU probably have tons of questions.

What is your debt repayment plan?

 

[NavyDDS1990]

Because I have nothing better to do tonight, or any night for that matter. Graduating in May from NYU, AMA cause I know you kids considering NYU probably have tons of questions.

Will not be attending NYU, but just out of curiosity. Have you took out full loans for your dental education? If so, how much have you actually accumulated and how will you be tackling down your student debt?

 

[Bifenthrin]

Favorite thing about attending NYU? Least favorite (besides cost)?

Favorite thing is probably the freedom; most classes don't have mandatory attendance, you just show up and get your stuff done when it needs to be done, and the rest of the time you do your own thing. As far as clinically... we get a LOT of patients, so that's good. Least favorite besides cost is that there are too many little BS classes that are hard to keep track of or care about.

What is your debt repayment plan?

LOL. PAYE baby, PAYE. Thank you Obama. And if Trump gets rid of it before I enter repayment... I think he mentioned he wanted to do his own modified version of it.. in any case, I plan to pay the bare minimum possible until loan forgiveness kicks in and just take the tax bomb like a man.

Will not be attending NYU, but just out of curiosity. Have you took out full loans for your dental education? If so, how much have you actually accumulated and how will you be tackling down your student debt?

Full loans, yes. I'm not sure how much I've accumulated, I paid for undergrad with loans too. I'm guessing around 500k total, maybe a bit more. Whatever, YOLO. PAYE is a thing.

 

[ineedaboosta]

Hardest thing about each respective year? D1, D2, D3, etc.
How's the atmosphere with 360+ students? How are the labs?

 

[MaxSnast]

Do you have a gig lined up post-graduation?


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[Bifenthrin]

Hardest thing about each respective year? D1, D2, D3, etc.
How's the atmosphere with 360+ students? How are the labs?

D1 the hardest is the adjustment to the workload. D2 the hardest is just the sheer amount of work you're expected to complete. D3, the adjustment to clinic, and D4.. meeting all graduation requirements. Plus boards.

Do you have a gig lined up post-graduation?


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Residency!

 

[Frychicken]

How many crowns did you do? Are you doing a residency in NY and practicing there after as well?

 

[Likkriue]

do you know about specialty match rates this year at NYU.

 

[Bifenthrin]

How many crowns did you do? Are you doing a residency in NY and practicing there after as well?

I've done 9 so far and I have another 5 or 6 in the works that I'll finish before graduation.

do you know about specialty match rates this year at NYU.

I don't actually. Everyone I know who wanted to specialize did match into their specialty of choice, but that's just people I know.

 

[Likkriue]

Are you worried about all the potential guys in NYC running for the hills after they see that loan amount.

 

[ktbur]

How is your living situation? How much do you pay per month for rent?

Do you feel like the professors are approachable despite the large class size?

If there was one thing you could change about NYU (except for the cost), what would it be?

What other schools did you get into and why did you choose NYU?

Thanks!

 

[predental21250]

Were you accepted anywhere else or just NYU? Did it take time adjusting to the city? How nice is your preclinical and clinical facility?

 

[P0W3RL1FT3R]

I'm not sure how much I've accumulated, I paid for undergrad with loans too. I'm guessing around 500k total, maybe a bit more. Whatever, YOLO. PAYE is a thing.

😕

 

[DentalNucleicAcid]

How much does NYU like the low gpa/high DAT/mild ECs combination for admissions? If that wasn't your case then do you have any friends in NYU that were in that position

 

[acesofseven]

😕

I wouldnt wanna live like that.

 

[Bifenthrin]

Are you worried about all the potential guys in NYC running for the hills after they see that loan amount.

Nah, I really don't care about potential guys and what they think. My financial situation is none of their business and has nothing to do with them, as far as I'm concerned.

How is your living situation? How much do you pay per month for rent?

Do you feel like the professors are approachable despite the large class size?

If there was one thing you could change about NYU (except for the cost), what would it be?

What other schools did you get into and why did you choose NYU?

Thanks!

I live by myself, paying $2400 a month in rent.
Professors are mostly approachable, yes.
I'd change the amount of busywork bull**** they make us do, it's time consuming and annoying.
Just NYU, did not apply broadly.

Were you accepted anywhere else or just NYU? Did it take time adjusting to the city? How nice is your preclinical and clinical facility?

Just NYU, and no adjustment necessary, I'm a local.
Preclinical and clinical faculty are mostly pretty nice as long as you're not a *****. Like if you do something blatantly idiotic you'll get yelled at, but if you're nice to them and humble and show a willingness to learn, they will be nice and teach you.

How much does NYU like the low gpa/high DAT/mild ECs combination for admissions? If that wasn't your case then do you have any friends in NYU that were in that position

I had a **** GPA but a stellar DAT score and I got in, so I guess they liked it.

 

[Cinnabon]

I have soo many questions!

1. How did you eat? (This may sound stupid but I promise it's a legitimate question). Like did you get a meal plan? Is it accounted for in your loan amount?

2. How did you pick your apartment? Is there one apartment complex that is better than the other? Why did you choose to live by yourself and not a roommate?

I probably will think of more loll thank you!!

 

[Bifenthrin]

I have soo many questions!

1. How did you eat? (This may sound stupid but I promise it's a legitimate question). Like did you get a meal plan? Is it accounted for in your loan amount?

2. How did you pick your apartment? Is there one apartment complex that is better than the other? Why did you choose to live by yourself and not a roommate?

I probably will think of more loll thank you!!

Part of your student loan package includes money for living expenses. So I just grocery shop like any other person. And I eat out a lot as well, actually. Depends if I'm in the mood to cook or not, really.

I picked my apartment cause it was spacious and the building complex is nice. There's tons of places to choose from, I know people living in 6th floor walkups paying way less than me, but I'm a princess so I wanted a nice place hah. I chose to live by myself because I didn't want roommates and because I don't mind paying more to not have to deal with others. I don't play nice with others when I'm cranky, and I'm cranky often when stressed and tired.

 

[Frychicken]

Part of your student loan package includes money for living expenses. So I just grocery shop like any other person. And I eat out a lot as well, actually. Depends if I'm in the mood to cook or not, really.

I picked my apartment cause it was spacious and the building complex is nice. There's tons of places to choose from, I know people living in 6th floor walkups paying way less than me, but I'm a princess so I wanted a nice place hah. I chose to live by myself because I didn't want roommates and because I don't mind paying more to not have to deal with others. I don't play nice with others when I'm cranky, and I'm cranky often when stressed and tired.

Princess? Are you really a girl... cause this whole time I thought you were a dude lol.

 

[Bifenthrin]

Princess? Are you really a girl... cause this whole time I thought you were a dude lol.

I might be a girl. I might be a dude calling himself a princess. Who knows? 🙂

 

[Cinnabon]

Part of your student loan package includes money for living expenses. So I just grocery shop like any other person. And I eat out a lot as well, actually. Depends if I'm in the mood to cook or not, really.

I picked my apartment cause it was spacious and the building complex is nice. There's tons of places to choose from, I know people living in 6th floor walkups paying way less than me, but I'm a princess so I wanted a nice place hah. I chose to live by myself because I didn't want roommates and because I don't mind paying more to not have to deal with others. I don't play nice with others when I'm cranky, and I'm cranky often when stressed and tired.

Thank you so much- you're the best!

Was there a particularly hard class that you were afraid you weren't going to pass?

Were your classmates competitive or friendly and nice lol? Did you like your GPD and group?

 

[Bifenthrin]

Thank you so much- you're the best!

Was there a particularly hard class that you were afraid you weren't going to pass?

Were your classmates competitive or friendly and nice lol? Did you like your GPD and group?

I mean, most of the classes are hard. I was afraid of failing everything lol. But idk I'm smart, I know the minimal effort I need to put in to succeed.

Classmates vary. There's 360 of us. Some will be friendly and nice, some will be competitive jerks. My GPD is ok. Others are better, others are worse. Idk, everyone being friendly and nice was never something I cared about. I'm not all that social. I'm here to become a dentist, not to make 50 new bffs, you know?

 

[ktbur]

Do you think it's difficult to specialize at NYU since the class sizes are so large?

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

Favorite thing is probably the freedom; most classes don't have mandatory attendance, you just show up and get your stuff done when it needs to be done, and the rest of the time you do your own thing. As far as clinically... we get a LOT of patients, so that's good. Least favorite besides cost is that there are too many little BS classes that are hard to keep track of or care about.



LOL. PAYE baby, PAYE. Thank you Obama. And if Trump gets rid of it before I enter repayment... I think he mentioned he wanted to do his own modified version of it.. in any case, I plan to pay the bare minimum possible until loan forgiveness kicks in and just take the tax bomb like a man.



Full loans, yes. I'm not sure how much I've accumulated, I paid for undergrad with loans too. I'm guessing around 500k total, maybe a bit more. Whatever, YOLO. PAYE is a thing.

.....Youre aware of how much that number actually is, correct?

Like when the government drops the repayment programs due to the unsustainability of them, and people behind you won't get grandfathered into them, leading to default, loss of license, inability to discharge into bankruptcy and years upon years of frustrating litigation while bartending to pay rent because the general public still thinks that dentists earn a good living even though the tax code is still a catastrophe that doesn't acknowledge student loans?

Just wanted to make sure of that as people are looking up to you asking for advice.

Good luck. Unfortunately, last generation broke the planet with lending. Corrections will be following after this cohort gets grandfathered in or the fed drops these programs leading to forced bankruptcy law changes.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

.....Youre aware of how much that number actually is, correct?

Like when the government drops the repayment programs due to the unsustainability of them, and people behind you won't get grandfathered into them, leading to default, loss of license, inability to discharge into bankruptcy and years upon years of frustrating litigation while bartending to pay rent because the general public still thinks that dentists earn a good living even though the tax code is still a catastrophe that doesn't acknowledge student loans?

Just wanted to make sure of that as people are looking up to you asking for advice.

Good luck. Unfortunately, last generation broke the planet with lending. Corrections will be following after this cohort gets grandfathered in or the fed drops these programs leading to forced bankruptcy law changes.

How does one get grandfathered into IBR + loan forgiveness? Just make the first payment?

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

How does one get grandfathered into IBR + loan forgiveness? Just make the first payment?

Graduate into the program and make payments I believe. There may also be language in the master promissory note for the loans you take out. I'm not positive.

I usually tell people to jump into the program as a safety net and pay it off themself. Obviously that's not possible in some situations currently so technically those with no other choice should be fine within the current programs. Not sure when it will change. Hopefully when a few politicians with some neurons get in there. When academic neurosurgeons discharge 500k in student loans it will probably change due to necessity

 

[schmoob]

Graduate into the program and make payments I believe. There may also be language in the master promissory note for the loans you take out. I'm not positive.

I usually tell people to jump into the program as a safety net and pay it off themself. Obviously that's not possible in some situations currently so technically those with no other choice should be fine within the current programs. Not sure when it will change. Hopefully when a few politicians with some neurons get in there. When academic neurosurgeons discharge 500k in student loans it will probably change due to necessity

Why would an academic neurosurgeon have their loans discharged? More importantly, why would they owe $500K in student loans, for 25 years?

 

[Likkriue]

Why would an academic neurosurgeon have their loans discharged? More importantly, why would they owe $500K in student loans, for 25 years?

Probably a very bad example since academic neurosurgeons still make good money. Will they be 500k in debt? Possibly if they went to a private medical school and interest accrued while they do a residency and then a fellowship earning pennies. But a neurosurgeon makes far more than 120k a year even in academics.(could work on the side as well).

I think what he means is the new dental school students banking on IBR or PAYE to still exist by the time they graduate should be wary. The government has already admitted that these programs are creating a deficit far larger than expected. They originally made these programs for school teachers or public service jobs that pay 50k while school costed 200k cause they would never be able to pay it back.

They did not predict that dental and medical schools would attempt to rob students blind and take advantage of these programs to justify their tuition prices. His message is to be wary of signing up to pay 500k for school without a plan ready that may not have IBR/PAYE in the future.

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

Why would an academic neurosurgeon have their loans discharged? More importantly, why would they owe $500K in student loans, for 25 years?

They make the minimum payment because they can. Live it up otherwise. I know of a PA student with a 2:1 debt ratio planning on this. This generation got screwed, but people will still not pay things off to game the system both ways. When that happens, federal funding and payment plans will most likely be cut......running schools into absurd administrative layoffs or shutdowns and others who aren't grandfathered into a program into default and eventually forced bankruptcy

 

[jadedphysiotherapist]

Probably a very bad example since academic neurosurgeons still make good money. Will they be 500k in debt? Possibly if they went to a private medical school and interest accrued while they do a residency and then a fellowship earning pennies. But a neurosurgeon makes far more than 120k a year even in academics.(could work on the side as well).

I think what he means is the new dental school students banking on IBR or PAYE to still exist by the time they graduate should be wary. The government has already admitted that these programs are creating a deficit far larger than expected. They originally made these programs for school teachers or public service jobs that pay 50k while school costed 200k cause they would never be able to pay it back.

They did not predict that dental and medical schools would attempt to rob students blind and take advantage of these programs to justify their tuition prices. His message is to be wary of signing up to pay 500k for school without a plan ready that may not have IBR/PAYE in the future.

This is on point. Add in law schools and pharmacy as well. Therapy is steadily following after I get out although I have never even remotely seen something as abusive as dental school tuition. A dent student here exploded on an admin to which the response was "at least you qualify for loans." I wouldn't have been surprised if he threw something at her.

 

[JBDDS2017]

How many root canals did you do and on what teeth ? How many extractions ? How many surgical ? How many implants did you restore ? How many FMTEs + full dentures did you do ? How many crowns ? How many bridges ? How many RPDs? How many posts ?

 

[free99]

Where are you going next year for residency and how did you select it?

 

[DMDDDSHopeful]

How many root canals did you do and on what teeth ? How many extractions ? How many surgical ? How many implants did you restore ? How many FMTEs + full dentures did you do ? How many crowns ? How many bridges ? How many RPDs? How many posts ?

Where are you going next year for residency and how did you select it?

 

[Bifenthrin]

How many root canals did you do and on what teeth ? How many extractions ? How many surgical ? How many implants did you restore ? How many FMTEs + full dentures did you do ? How many crowns ? How many bridges ? How many RPDs? How many posts ?

I've done 5 endos, which is the graduation requirement. Two molar, two anterior, and one premolar. Would have done more but was trading cases with classmates for things I still needed. Have done 60+ extractions by now, with probably 30 of them being surgical. Restored 1 implant, gave other cases to classmates in need. Have done FMTE + full denture in two patients, FMTE in another 3 or 4 and gave the denture cases away because I hate dentures with a passion. Crowns I answered above, 9 done, another 6 or so happening soon. Bridges are impossible to come by, doing 1 now, but most patients get talked into implants instead. RPDs I've done 1 so far and doing my last two required ones now, but again, something I hate doing and try to avoid. Posts... 6 or 7?

Where are you going next year for residency and how did you select it?

I don't feel comfortable answering the where, except to say it is a GPR in the NYC area. As for how I selected it, I liked the program director's pitch on interview day. Current residents seemed happy, attendings seemed happy, patients seemed happy.

 

[predental21250]

Why do a GPR and not AEGD?

 

[schmoob]

Why do a GPR and not AEGD?

Pays more. NYC is expensive.

 

[xkc9126x]

which year/quarter/semester has been your biggest and lightest workload? What did your biggest workload consist of? How did you truck through it? How many weeks is each quarter/semester? Is it still called semesters in DS? (sorry if this is a stupid question)

 

[Alpha Centauri]

I've done 5 endos, which is the graduation requirement. Two molar, two anterior, and one premolar. Would have done more but was trading cases with classmates for things I still needed. Have done 60+ extractions by now, with probably 30 of them being surgical. Restored 1 implant, gave other cases to classmates in need. Have done FMTE + full denture in two patients, FMTE in another 3 or 4 and gave the denture cases away because I hate dentures with a passion. Crowns I answered above, 9 done, another 6 or so happening soon. Bridges are impossible to come by, doing 1 now, but most patients get talked into implants instead. RPDs I've done 1 so far and doing my last two required ones now, but again, something I hate doing and try to avoid. Posts... 6 or 7?




I don't feel comfortable answering the where, except to say it is a GPR in the NYC area. As for how I selected it, I liked the program director's pitch on interview day. Current residents seemed happy, attendings seemed happy, patients seemed happy.

How different was dentistry from learning about it during D1 vs actually doing it on real life patients? Did your views about the profession change at all, whether becoming more enthusiastic or less enthusiastic when you actually did "real" work? How prepared did you feel to work on your first patient ever in clinic?

 

[free99]

I don't feel comfortable answering the where, except to say it is a GPR in the NYC area. As for how I selected it, I liked the program director's pitch on interview day. Current residents seemed happy, attendings seemed happy, patients seemed happy.

👍 I only ask because there seems to be so little information out there about which GPRs/AEGDs out there are worthwhile. That's one benefit of NYC, so many residencies in close proximity that visiting a handful for a day to get a feel for the program is practical. Does NYU or the previous year's graduating class give you any help selecting a residency that provides particular experiences (ie, pedo heavy, implant placement exposure)?

 

[Bifenthrin]

Why do a GPR and not AEGD?

I got rent and bills to pay lmao. Can't survive on 40k a year in NYC with no roommates. 60k is a little more manageable, still not great... but I won't be eating ramen for dinner every night.

which year/quarter/semester has been your biggest and lightest workload? What did your biggest workload consist of? How did you truck through it? How many weeks is each quarter/semester? Is it still called semesters in DS? (sorry if this is a stupid question)

Second semester D2 was the worst with the sheer amount of work. Still not sure how I made it through. I look back on it and it's like I blacked out for an entire semester, but somehow came out the other end having done everything I was supposed to. Easiest is fall of D4. You're not studying for boards yet, or for anything else, and you're not in panic mode about finishing requirements before graduation yet.

How different was dentistry from learning about it during D1 vs actually doing it on real life patients? Did your views about the profession change at all, whether becoming more enthusiastic or less enthusiastic when you actually did "real" work? How prepared did you feel to work on your first patient ever in clinic?

Totally different. I regretted my decision so much in D1 and D2, until I got to the clinic and started treating actual humans. I wasn't prepared at all, you're thrown in and you're freaked out. But you manage.

👍 I only ask because there seems to be so little information out there about which GPRs/AEGDs out there are worthwhile. That's one benefit of NYC, so many residencies in close proximity that visiting a handful for a day to get a feel for the program is practical. Does NYU or the previous year's graduating class give you any help selecting a residency that provides particular experiences (ie, pedo heavy, implant placement exposure)?

Didn't have much input from the previous year's class or anything. Got some input in the residency forums here, and then kind of did my own thing.

 

[Cinnabon]

When are we supposed to wear scrubs? Do they have to be certain color/do they have to say NYU? Is there a dress code for certain classes? I just need to plan on what clothes to buy before I move there. Thanks again!

 

[Cinnabon]

Also, did you stay in the same apartment for 4 years? Is it the norm to stay in the same apartment or to get a different apartment every year (which seems like a hassle)?

 

[Bifenthrin]

When are we supposed to wear scrubs? Do they have to be certain color/do they have to say NYU? Is there a dress code for certain classes? I just need to plan on what clothes to buy before I move there. Thanks again!

Some people live in their scrubs. Others never wear scrubs. Dress code for labs and clinic is either scrubs or business casual. For lectures, you can show up in your pajamas and no one will say anything.

Also, did you stay in the same apartment for 4 years? Is it the norm to stay in the same apartment or to get a different apartment every year (which seems like a hassle)?

Yeah, didn't feel like dealing with the hassle of moving. Plus I like my apartment.

 

[Cinnabon]

Thank you! Are we given scrubs or do we have to buy them beforehand? Any specific color I should be looking for?

 

[Bifenthrin]

Buy them beforehand, or buy them at school when you get there. Usually ASDA does scrub sales for like $25 per pair. Colorwise, we didnt have any limitations. I've seen several girls wearing pink scrubs. Most people wear more standard black, navy blue, light blue, etc.

 

[schmoob]

No purple though.

 

[Cinnabon]

Buy them beforehand, or buy them at school when you get there. Usually ASDA does scrub sales for like $25 per pair. Colorwise, we didnt have any limitations. I've seen several girls wearing pink scrubs. Most people wear more standard black, navy blue, light blue, etc.

Thank you so much!! 🙂

 

[Cinnabon]

No purple though.

Thank you!! I'm assuming it's reserved for the actual doctors loll