NYU retention rate problem

[datgirldoe]

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so a current second year at NYU college of dentistry told me that it is true that NYU tends to cut off a good chunk of people. obviously it is mostly the students' fault for not being on top of their stuff in school, but NYU tends to be a lot less lenient when it comes to kids that fail. most schools will give students one more year of opportunity whereas NYU will straight up kick students out if they fail just ONE class. that seems pretty...iunno unappealing to me. just a butthurt NYU rejectee here. whatcha think?

 

[sgv]

you would really have to not give a f**k to fail a class...im guessing nyu tends to get a lot of bad apples who tend to fail and fail to such a frequency that nyu just had enough. if fear of getting kicked out won't motivate you to get out of parties and into a library, then i dunno what will...

the way you say it make it seem like failing should be expected in professionals and that schools should expect failure from people who will end up treating patients by making consequences less draconian...

who the hell wants a dentist/real doctor, who failed any class in medschool or dental school, treating them?

if you fail a class, you probably shouldn't be there...

if youre a decent professional student, you shouldn't be worried about this policy. perhaps the school found you unappealing for a reason and rejected you. harsh statement, i know, but you should take some time out of the day to reflect upon it...

 

[Screwtape]

Did you take a look at NYUs tuition and cost of living? Their rejection was a favor, my man.

 

[stomatology]

you would really have to not give a f**k to fail a class...im guessing nyu tends to get a lot of bad apples who tend to fail and fail to such a frequency that nyu just had enough. if fear of getting kicked out won't motivate you to get out of parties and into a library, then i dunno what will...

the way you say it make it seem like failing should be expected in professionals and that schools should expect failure from people who will end up treating patients by making consequences less draconian...

who the hell wants a dentist/real doctor, who failed any class in medschool or dental school, treating them?

if you fail a class, you probably shouldn't be there...

Eh, you're being pretty harsh.

I know a few (not too many, but a few definitely) medical and dental students who have failed a class, and I don't think that they will graduate from school to become incompetent healthcare professionals.

Why people fail varies. It seems like you're assuming that people fail because are incompetent. Sometimes that is the case, but it is more likely that these people do study, but their grades are around the pass/fail border and they end up failing something at some point. When that's a case of a poor work ethic, that's an easy fix. Something I have seen that is unique to dental school is that some dental students are really slow to pick up hand skills and therefore fail a lab class in the beginning.

I definitely don't think that failing is par for the course, and I think everyone should strive to do the best that they possibly can. Most students will pass, however I wouldn't completely discount someone who failed a class. What is more important than whether that person failed a class or not is how that person picked him/herself up, remediated, and was able to improve so that he/she could pass the rest of his/her classes in order to graduate.

People who fail multiple times do get kicked out. I am sure of that. Standards are rigorous. I know for a fact that there is at least one school (not talking about NYU here) where someone doesn't need to fail a class to get kicked out.

 

[sgv]

Eh, you're being pretty harsh.

I know a few (not too many, but a few definitely) medical and dental students who have failed a class, and I don't think that they will graduate from school to become incompetent healthcare professionals.

Why people fail varies. It seems like you're assuming that people fail because are incompetent. Sometimes that is the case, but it is more likely that these people do study, but their grades are around the pass/fail border and they end up failing something at some point. When that's a case of a poor work ethic, that's an easy fix. Something I have seen that is unique to dental school is that some dental students are really slow to pick up hand skills and therefore fail a lab class in the beginning.

I definitely don't think that failing is par for the course, and I think everyone should strive to do the best that they possibly can. Most students will pass, however I wouldn't completely discount someone who failed a class. What is more important than whether that person failed a class or not is how that person picked him/herself up, remediated, and was able to improve so that he/she could pass the rest of his/her classes in order to graduate.

People who fail multiple times do get kicked out. I am sure of that. Standards are rigorous. I know for a fact that there is at least one school (not talking about NYU here) where someone doesn't need to fail a class to get kicked out.

youre right. when i saw the word fail the only picture that came up in my head was a guido in dental school

 

[hitmans45]

During my interview I was able to talk to a few students during lunch and they said this was a myth. A third year said that there was only one person in her class that was no longer there and that was because of a family issue. It never made much sense to me anyway, kicking out people is a loss in profit for NYU.

 

[znny19]

so a current second year at NYU college of dentistry told me that it is true that NYU tends to cut off a good chunk of people. obviously it is mostly the students' fault for not being on top of their stuff in school, but NYU tends to be a lot less lenient when it comes to kids that fail. most schools will give students one more year of opportunity whereas NYU will straight up kick students out if they fail just ONE class. that seems pretty...iunno unappealing to me. just a butthurt NYU rejectee here. whatcha think?

Well you got rejected so why do you even care? 🙄

And no they let you remediate 3 classes. So if you fail 3 classes you get kicked out.

 

[dantemac]

I've heard people dropping out is due to competitive nature/stressful nature of grad school/other personal issues. This is to be expected in a class of that size, you lose some. Nothing abnormal.

 

[bobcostas01]

i asked a student at NYU about this while i was interviewing. if you fail a class you have to take a remediate class.. you haven't failed until you've failed the remediate. and you have to fail three remedial courses to get kicked out.. basically if you leave the school it'll probably be for non academic reasons.