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i know this is a little late, but if anyone is chosing to go to NYU i hope you know what you are getting yourself into. i have heard horror stories about a few of the faculty in the clinic, especially one guy named dr. solden. if you have decided to go there, i would ask people about him and others like him because he apparently enjoys kicking people out for stupid reasons (not that the school as a whole doesn't enjoy that a little bit as well). anyway, i am just passing on info that i have heard from people i met there and people i already know there. from almost everyone i spoke with who went to NYU or goes to NYU, you should only go there if it's your only choice. sorry if i offended anyone, i just want to make sure people know the truth.
 
Yeah, I've heard that some people are kicked out after a year or two. I don't know if it's true, but I know someone who chose Case over NYU because of this reason.
 
I've heard about that too but not about the professor. I just heard like what bruinlove mentioned. Well for me, I kinda like the Idea. It gives students a chance to feel the first year of dentistry (hopefully I'm not offending anyone here). It's like getting to know if you can do the courseload or not. I know we are not in Europe but in some schools in Europe dentistry they accept a lot of students for the first year, then they'd do the "elimination method" where in the "fittest" survives. Almost half of the students are repeat, 25% graduates. Probably NYU only have a few. Maybe, NYU has the same concept but not as rigid as the Europe story I mentioned. Anyway, I really heard it's a good school. Labs are newly renovated.
 
My friend graduated from NYU have told me the same thing. Basically he said they accept a lot of people because they need the money but start weeding people out after the 2nd year because they dont have enough clinical space for everyone. That is kind of messed up IMO. I wouldnt drop out though, especially since the student loans will be astronomical!
 
Wow... this thread is kind of a throwback. Back when I joined SDN there was less USC/PBL bashing and more of this NYU/kinking people out chatter.

I would think most of us SDN predents (a bright bunch) would be more concerned about not ranking near the top of the class, rather than being worried about coming in last and getting kicked out of school.
 
definately dont wanna go to NYU... NYU is my backup!
 
Yet another school bashing thread.

Pre dents, please don't be sold to comments on sdn. Go to schools yourself and check them out. I was very impressed with NYU when I was there. Forget about their 'kicking out' policies (if they even exist!). Did you come this far to spend your time thinking about whether you'll make it past 1st or 2nd year of dental school??
 
I feel like a lot of students from Binghamton go to NYU. I was talking with the dentist that I work with who is a biased Buffalo alum (that I respect very much) and he said that if NYU is the only place I get in (I hope that is not the situation) that I should consider taking a year off and reapplying. Another dentist I work with taught some post-doc classes at VCU and gave me some good tips as far as which students (from which schools) he was most impressed with. He thought Michigan, Maryland, and Louisville students really knew their S***.
 
I've seen threads like this before. The accusations are often backed by several people; however, there are always others out there who say the EXACT opposite about the very same school. Experiences vary person to person...each person has their own perception of how helpful/hurtful the DMD/DDS program is.

Hey, the way I see it - everyone is entitled to an opinion. Personally, I would take an NYU acceptane in a heart-beat. Dental school is not supposed to be cake. I say be a good lil' spartan..."only the hard survive."
 
I don't go to NYU, but I haven't heard terrible things about it other than the expense of education and living. Of course if you don't do the work or don't do a satisfactory job, you should expect to get kicked out of any dental school. Thing is MANY MANY people graduate from NYU, so it can't be that hard to get through if you work. Come on! Sounds like someone just had a bad experience or maybe doesn't want to admit they were a slacker.
 
kind of odd that it is the op's first post too. 🙄
 
I heard a story from a graduate of NYU, about how they over accept students into the first year, and gradually wean the class down to size over the next 4. He told me that by the time he graduated, the class was half the size of when he started. I have no reason to believe he was lying either, and I'm undoubtedly sure this story is true.
 
Forgot to mention, that story was from my grandfather, and the year was 1950 :laugh:

Come on people, they don't do that anymore. Why would a school throw an irreplacable $150,000 out the window unless they could absolutely avoid it?
 
i've heard similar things. allegedly they will weed out 20-25% after the first year and accept their tuition as a nice "donation." new york city is awesome but i'll save it for vacation!
 
not every year no. but after the first year yes.
 
Ok... I'm really sorry but I think this may be blown out of proportion. If people drop out, that is one thing... but kicked out? First, you can request that graduation rate from NYU in writing if you are very concerned...but no school is going to want to advertise that their grad rate is 75% when nationally the dental school grad rate is near 98%. Like what we hear about medicine, the hardest part is getting in. NYU wouldn't have the popularity they do if they booted 25% of their accepted. Prove me wrong and I'll gladly admit my error. In the meantime, I'm not buying that this is the case... at least anymore. I believe Armorshell when he says this was the case decades and decades ago, but that was before dentistry was even popularized. Too much competition to boot that much of the class now.
 
lol this is a ridiculous thread

i do agree from hearing from my friend that is attending NYU that if you do not perform well then there is a chance you can get kicked out, but that is same as anywhere else.

it's just that NYU has the biggest class out of all dental schools and that might be why it seems that they are kicking out more people but it has nothing to do with the school's consipiracy of making money and cutting down the class to half.

why would you join SDN and post this as your first post?
maybe try to cut down some competition for your NYU spot? 😎
 
If you really want to enter the dental school, then it should not matter what others say and how many people drop out of the dental school. You want to be the one who graduate and work as a dentist. If I get admission from NYU, I'll take it in a second!
 
I like how we (SDNers) always bring up the bad things about schools and talk about all the bad things that happen to the bottom 25% of the class. There are going to be people at every school who struggle, are frustrated, and get swallowed up by d-school. However there are also bright spots, and good stories too. These students are probably too busy doing well, and enjoying school to vent on an internet forum.

I assisted two NYU dentists for a while who were out of NYU a couple years and didn't complain one bit. One even graduated #1 in his class and just recently started an an ortho residency.
 
Who cares, at least they have the highest rated lunch on interview day.
 
NYU does not kick out 20% of their class, but yes their policies are harsher than most schools out there.
 
NYU is a good school, but they are a business. kicking a student out (unless absolutely necessary) is bad for business. they lose money on the deal (tuition, alumni contribution, etc.) and tarnish their academic reputation (lower graduation rate, etc.).
my assumption is that they'd do everything to help (remedial courses, academic probation, etc.) before extreme measures (expulsion).
 
haisha ni narou said:
Who cares, at least they have the highest rated lunch on interview day.
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YES! That is true! The food was SO GOOD!

Also, when I was interviewing there, someone asked about the dropout rate and the Admissions Director told us it wasn't true, and that students are given A LOT of opportunities if they don't do well.

From my experience, the Admissions Director is a VERY blunt woman and seems to tell it like it is. I believe her.

This reminds me of ratemyprofessor.com. During my undergrad, I went on there and defended a lot of my science professors because a few students did bad in their classes and complained about how horrible the professors were. While some (very few) did deserve the criticism, a lot of them were awesome professors. Unfortunately, their classes were just hard - doesn't mean they were bad teachers.

In class, I would hear people b*tch, b*tch, b*tch about the class, but I knew they were total slackers and wanted everything handed to them on a silver platter.

"That test was SO unfair! He didn't go over THAT during lecture!"
"It was in the chapters he assigned to us."
"But he didn't lecture on it! That is so unfair, I'm going to talk to him about it."
"Um... really? Why don't you just f*cking read the chapters he assigns and stop your b*tching?"
"What?"
"I hate you."

In conclusion:
People who have good experiences will share it with those who want to know. People who have bad experiences will share it with anyone that has ears... even when it's their own fault.
 
1. NYU is the largest dental school in the United States. Even if the percentage of students that they weed out is about average or even a little below average, that means that there are more expelled students from NYU than from any other American dental school -- and, thus, more stories to go around.

2. As I understand it, NYU is the sort of place where you need to be proactive and take initiative in order to make the most of your experience. I wouldn't be surprised if many students who left (for whatever reason) felt that they didn't get much support, which makes for more dramatic stories than those you would hear from students who left smaller schools. As much as it can hurt for the students, that does not necessarily mean that the school has done anything wrong.
 
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lmao this is hillarious as a student there i find this sort of hysteria almost comical how these false statements get repeated over and over and then become a sort of underground fact...ITS COMPLETELY FALSE they try their hardest to keep everyone there they dont kick people out for no reason and if you are getting info from people who got kicked you can see there might be some bias there...but they have great retention and graduation rates and more clinics than everybody else and typically everyone goes over their requirements not under so dont believe the hype...
 
qwerty86 said:
NYU does not kick out 20% of their class, but yes their policies are harsher than most schools out there.
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Or any web address?

I think it's worth knowing more exactly about their policy.

Come on~ are you too busy to even talk about this? 🙂

THANKS~
 
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i just had interview this week, and i absolutely loved the school
i have no idea why people always come up with rumors about NYU.
the only negative aspects in my opinion were {high tuition and living costs} and... although it wasn't a problem to me but maybe {large class size}
other than that the school was totally awesome!!!
i wish i get in!!!!🙂
 
The school was great and the lunch was the best yet.
 
I would suggest to get an interview first and visit the school before making any comment! I was interviewed at NYU last week and my interviewer explained to me for about half an hour how things work at NYU and he also mentioned that all these rumors are baseless! The only issue for NYU is the cost otherwise it is a great school. There are lots of opportunities. Faculty who interviewed me mentioned that most of the faculty members at NYU run their own private practice and they are fairly successful, and they actually take students to their practice to show how their practice is managed and help students to start their own practice. I think it is a great place to have strong connections. NYU has plenty of faculty members and they can be very helpful once you graduate and want to start your own practice or work as an associate at New Jersey or New York area. Anyway, it is a great school, and even if it is not your first choice, you can still consider it as a solid back-up school.
 
Another BS thread perpetuating unsubstantiated negative rumors about NYU...

Unless you've visited the school and talked to both current students and administrators, and deduced the truth yourself, than you really don't know what you're talking about.

OP, In my opinion you don't know what you're talking about. My thought is that you are trying to scare people to not go to NYU in order to further your own agenda, perhaps because it is your first choice. It is especially suspicious that this is your first post.

I visited NYU and talked to many students and faculty. I went to the school with the lowest of expectations and assumed all the rumors were true, only to be blown away by the school and learned that all the rumors are untrue (or at least no longer true, which is all that matters).

I do not hesitate to say that NYU is one of the best dental schools in the country. If you haven't visited the school, it's really easy to believe the rumors but I urge you to reserve your judgments until you actually visit the school, because unless you do, chances are you don't know what you're talking about.
 
asam10 said:
i would suggest to get an interview first and visit the school before making any comment! I was interviewed at nyu last week and my interviewer explained to me for about half an hour how things work at nyu and he also mentioned that all these rumors are baseless! The only issue for nyu is the cost otherwise it is a great school. There are lots of opportunities. Faculty who interviewed me mentioned that most of the faculty members at nyu run their own private practice and they are fairly successful, and they actually take students to their practice to show how their practice is managed and help students to start their own practice. I think it is a great place to have strong connections. Nyu has plenty of faculty members and they can be very helpful once you graduate and want to start your own practice or work as an associate at new jersey or new york area. Anyway, it is a great school, and even if it is not your first choice, you can still consider it as a solid back-up school.
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+1.
 
Really? People are still talking about this?? Really??!!??

I'm an NYUCD D2. I made it past my first year and so did over 97% of our class. Those that dropped/failed out were given plenty of opportunities. You can fail up to FOUR classes and are given the opportunity to remediate in the summer and STILL move along with your class. Some people are kept back. Those that really can't hack it after being given multiple chances are dismissed -- JUST AS THEY WOULD BE HAD THEY ATTENDED ANY OTHER SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY! Stating that NYUCD intentionally kicks out students WITHOUT REASON is entirely false. Like any accredited school in any dicipline, NYUCD won't hand out degrees without making you earn them, but they give students every opportunity to succeed.

If you say otherwise you are fear-mongering and WRONG. Open and shut.

PM me if you have any questions about how things ACTUALLY are at NYUCD.
 
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Our dean just sent us an email with full numbers on attrition rates and NYU's attrition rate is less than that of the national average for dental schools.

People making up these rumors are either 1) those trying to get in and think (very narrowly I must say) that they can dissuade others or 2) people who enjoy bashing other schools to feel good about their own

That is all there is to it. I know my entire class even though it's huge but I can't think of anyone who isn't with us this year but was here last year.

There you go! testimony from a real nyu student
 
Dunno wussup, but The hero steak sandwich and the ham and pineapple pannini were awesome...... other than that I recall a conversation about the attrition rate being a rumor.
 
those who quit NYU did so for other reasons.

1) Transfer
2) Personal reason
3) Plus, few people that were actually kicked out!

As far as NYU is concerned, I think it would be much better to talk about the size of student body instead.

They have the greatest size of student body, and many guys in international program will join their D2. (300+ student body, all of them will take the same classes and grades will be curved / but ranked separately!!) 😱
 
Don't forget dentists have the highest suicide rate as well.

True story, you heard it on SDN.
 
DiNoZeRo2o9 said:
Don't forget dentists have the highest suicide rate as well.

True story, you heard it on SDN.
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i heard that too, it must be true 🙂

also, LLU is some sort of a cult, thier secondary asked for a letter from clergy/spiritual leader....

LLU, NYU, BU, UT,...Ill go where ever I get accepted no matter how good or how bad the rumers are...
 
deniseR888 said:
i know this is a little late, but if anyone is chosing to go to NYU i hope you know what you are getting yourself into. i have heard horror stories about a few of the faculty in the clinic, especially one guy named dr. solden. if you have decided to go there, i would ask people about him and others like him because he apparently enjoys kicking people out for stupid reasons (not that the school as a whole doesn't enjoy that a little bit as well). anyway, i am just passing on info that i have heard from people i met there and people i already know there. from almost everyone i spoke with who went to NYU or goes to NYU, you should only go there if it's your only choice. sorry if i offended anyone, i just want to make sure people know the truth.
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Excuse me deniseR888,

I'm not affiliated with NYU or anything but let's be logical here a bit, and can you back up your stories about Dr. Solden? your thread sounds just like 'gossiping' in the desperate housewives. Could we please talk a little bit more educated than that?
 
sgoh said:
Excuse me deniseR888,

I'm not affiliated with NYU or anything but let's be logical here a bit, and can you back up your stories about Dr. Solden? your thread sounds just like 'gossiping' in the desperate housewives. Could we please talk a little bit more educated than that?
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Uhhhh ..... sgoh, do you look at any stats of the posters and the dates when posts are made? deniseR888 was probably made by a troll or a disgruntled NYU dental student since they only posted once. Plus, this thread was started a year ago. It was a dead thread for a reason. No one really put 2 thoughts into it. Just thought I'd point this out to you so that way you don't look silly again in the future.
 
Thundercatz said:
My friend graduated from NYU have told me the same thing. Basically he said they accept a lot of people because they need the money but start weeding people out after the 2nd year because they dont have enough clinical space for everyone. That is kind of messed up IMO. I wouldnt drop out though, especially since the student loans will be astronomical!
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My cousin was in the graduating class of '03 at NYU. He told me of their weeding methods to make room for clinical space.
 
deniseR888 said:
i know this is a little late, but if anyone is chosing to go to NYU i hope you know what you are getting yourself into. i have heard horror stories about a few of the faculty in the clinic, especially one guy named dr. solden. if you have decided to go there, i would ask people about him and others like him because he apparently enjoys kicking people out for stupid reasons (not that the school as a whole doesn't enjoy that a little bit as well). anyway, i am just passing on info that i have heard from people i met there and people i already know there. from almost everyone i spoke with who went to NYU or goes to NYU, you should only go there if it's your only choice. sorry if i offended anyone, i just want to make sure people know the truth.
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If NYU has only one faculty member that is hard to deal with than they are way ahead of the game. Incidentally, a single faculty member does not have the power to "kick people out for stupid reasons". Ultimately the decision is that of the ds Dean.
 
beeho said:
My cousin was in the graduating class of '03 at NYU. He told me of their weeding methods to make room for clinical space.
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Is NYU using the "weeding methods to make room for clinical space" or are they inflating the first year class to compensate for the attrition rate which they expect to see?
 
the only post made by OP. :laugh:

Here u can see I was one of a few victims. :uhno:
 
visbimmer79 said:
the only post made by OP. :laugh:

Here u can see I was one of a few victims. :uhno:
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From what I heard from 3 NYU graduates. NYU is based on a ranking system. Certain percentage of students in the bottom end of the pool get weed out. They over accept applicants for the number of seats because they want to give students with lower stats a shot at dental school. From what I heard, people aren't that nice to each other because it's VERY competitive at NYU. Everyone is just trying to cover their own azzes. 1 dentist told me dental school is what you get out of it, the 2nd dentist told me he thought NYU is ok as long as you have a strong personality, you're gonna make it. The 3rd dentist told me he absoutely hated the school because it is really hard. I dont really care, if that's the only school I get in, I am still gonna go.
 
peerless218 said:
From what I heard from 3 NYU graduates. NYU is based on a ranking system. Certain percentage of students in the bottom end of the pool get weed out. They over accept applicants for the number of seats because they want to give students with lower stats a shot at dental school. From what I heard, people aren't that nice to each other because it's VERY competitive at NYU. Everyone is just trying to cover their own azzes. 1 dentist told me dental school is what you get out of it, the 2nd dentist told me he thought NYU is ok as long as you have a strong personality, you're gonna make it. The 3rd dentist told me he absoutely hated the school because it is really hard. I dont really care, if that's the only school I get in, I am still gonna go.
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I must not have gotten the memo about this weeding out system. If I remember correctly all the students advanced from D1 to D2 with the exception of 1 (personal reasons), and the entire D2 class advanced with the exception of maybe 8 who failed classes and then failed remediation as well, they are repeating 2nd year.

NYU really does not have a competitive feel at all to be honest. I would say something like 50% of the class or more just shoot to pass and spend a lot of time partying. No one is out to get you, at least I haven't experienced it during my year here and no D2 has complained about anything last year. I was actually surprised myself at how well the class gets along as a whole considering how large it is.

You get what you put in.

These rumors get tiresome......
 
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