Obama executive action implications

[BobbyB]

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertw...ction/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

"The President also wants to change the independent contractor vs. employee playing field. Notably, Obamacare covers employees, not independent contractors. The President’s proposal would put more power in the hands of the IRS to reclassify independent contractors as employees."

if this executive action passes, then doctors will be considered employees of the hospital by the IRS. doctors would be able to unionize, collectively bargain, and strike.

SDN lawyers please feel free to weigh in on this.

 

[operaman]

Eh, not quite. Just a poorly-written op-ed piece. There is no such thing as "Obamacare" that itself covers/insures anything. Now, the affordable care act requires businesses over a certain size to provide qualifying health insurance to their full-time employees or pay a fine each year. Business have traditionally skirted similar requirements by either hiring mostly part-time workers OR by hiring some as independent contractors. Allowing the IRS to reclassify certain people who are truly employees is a way of making businesses follow the law or pay the price.

Not sure how this applies to doctors directly as it says nothing about the IRS wanting to reclassify doctors as employees across the board. Many hospitals do hire physicians as employees already while others employ individuals or groups as independent contractors. This has no impact on their ability to unionize or bargain collectively -- I have been hired for multiple jobs as a unionized independent contractor. With doctors, I would imagine the striking would run into some legal and ethical issues though, along the lines of the ATC strike in the 80s.

 

[Pacna]

Just more patches on a rusty pipe. Part D didn't fix it, the ACA won't fix it, this EO didn't fix it, and the next 'improvement' won't fix it.

 

[MyNameHere22]

Now, the affordable care act requires businesses over a certain size to provide qualifying health insurance to their full-time employees or pay a tax each year.

Fixed your post.

 

[PikminOC]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertw...ction/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

"The President also wants to change the independent contractor vs. employee playing field. Notably, Obamacare covers employees, not independent contractors. The President’s proposal would put more power in the hands of the IRS to reclassify independent contractors as employees."

if this executive action passes, then doctors will be considered employees of the hospital by the IRS. doctors would be able to unionize, collectively bargain, and strike.

SDN lawyers please feel free to weigh in on this.

Let me know when this means independent contractors can pay the same taxes as employees and then we'll have a good discussion.

 

[Dave89]

Fixed your post.

No - it's a fine! I mean, a tax! No, a fine!

Well, that's basically how they described it in court.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

"Nevertheless, Mr. Obama proposes cutting back on allowable retirement savings. The cuts would be big, limiting retirement savings to an amount sufficient to generate $210,000 a year beginning at age 62."

Never even realized that was in his last budget.

F that noise.

 

[PL198]

"Nevertheless, Mr. Obama proposes cutting back on allowable retirement savings. The cuts would be big, limiting retirement savings to an amount sufficient to generate $210,000 a year beginning at age 62."

Never even realized that was in his last budget.

F that noise.

to an amount sufficient? wtf how do they define that

 

[potatochip1]

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[chipwhitley]

With doctors, I would imagine the striking would run into some legal and ethical issues though, along the lines of the ATC strike in the 80s.

I have always been curious as to why doctors can't go on strike while nurses can. Doctors also go on strike routinely in other countries such as UK and Germany.