Ochem Major Products

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Was working on achiever tonight...everytime they asked which would be the major product(s) for a electrophillic subsitution reaction on a benzene with a ortho/para directing group, they said substitution at both the Ortho and Para position would be major products. In my ochem class, I was taught that Ortho would be the predominant/major product due to steric hinderance...anybody what answer they'd expect on the actual DAT? Ortho or ortho and para.

thanks in advance.
 
If your OP director is NH2, it'll be substituted at ortho and para as a major - NH2 is extremely activating, and you can't isolate the para product well.

If you have a less activating OP director (i.e., methoxy, or even a halogen), your major product will just be para, *especially* if the activator is bulky - that makes the ortho position even less attractive.

Your major is ortho-only only when the para position is already occupied by another group, or if there's a meta-director on the ring that gives double-reinforcement to the ortho site.
 
Thanks for the reply, I knew certain groups were more activating than others but I never knew that the more activating produces at both ortho and para positions.

Sorry I meant my ochem class told me that PARA is the major product instead of ortho due to steric hinderance

I went back to achiever and looked at the question...both times CH3 was the activating group and both times the correct answer was a mixture of ORTHO and PARA. I know CH3 has little steric hinderance but it is not extremely activating either...I'm assuming steric hinderance plays a large role on direction then how strongly activating something is?
 
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anyone?

I'd just assume that anytime they ask for major products...ortho and para will be the answer when adding to a benzene ring with an activating group thats not to bulky..
 
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