Ochm 2 advice please

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Basically I'm taking this 4 week intense course over the summer. Does anyone know of any websites for practice exams or notes for the second semester of ochm ? Any tips ?? I'm kinda depressed at the moment cause I had my first test and I feel like I didn't do amazing on it. Granted that she drops the lowest test but I feel like maybe I'm not doing something right. I literally go to class, eat, and then rewrite my notes/read over them lots of times. Is this the right approach ? If anyone has done well in the second semester lemme know how you did it. thanks !

P.S- i know this is highly unlikely but I have Sapna Gupta incase anyone may have had her...

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Basically I'm taking this 4 week intense course over the summer. Does anyone know of any websites for practice exams or notes for the second semester of ochm ? Any tips ?? I'm kinda depressed at the moment cause I had my first test and I feel like I didn't do amazing on it. Granted that she drops the lowest test but I feel like maybe I'm not doing something right. I literally go to class, eat, and then rewrite my notes/read over them lots of times. Is this the right approach ? If anyone has done well in the second semester lemme know how you did it. thanks !

P.S- i know this is highly unlikely but I have Sapna Gupta incase anyone may have had her...

Drill lots and lots and lots of problems until you are eating, drinking, sleeping Orgo. And also there is this guy on YouTube, his username is freelanceteach. Or just type in "freelanceteach Organic Chemistry instructional videos" on Google. This guy saved me in Orgo. And of course,
I can not emphasize doing problems over and over again (even the Same problems
Over and over again).
Good luck!!:luck:
 
Basically I'm taking this 4 week intense course over the summer. Does anyone know of any websites for practice exams or notes for the second semester of ochm ? Any tips ?? I'm kinda depressed at the moment cause I had my first test and I feel like I didn't do amazing on it. Granted that she drops the lowest test but I feel like maybe I'm not doing something right. I literally go to class, eat, and then rewrite my notes/read over them lots of times. Is this the right approach ? If anyone has done well in the second semester lemme know how you did it. thanks !

P.S- i know this is highly unlikely but I have Sapna Gupta incase anyone may have had her...

Ive always heard good things about the "Organic Chemistry as a Second Language" books, i think there are two of them
 
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Do not cram for Orgo2. Make sure you review every day. Make sure you attend class. This is important.
 
I'd second the Klein "Organic Chemistry as a Second Language" books. He has a great way of describing the concepts and action and there's practice problems for each of the concepts so you basically drill it into your head where/how the action happens, where you learn the concept instead of trying to memorize mechanisms.

What I did was read ahead for class (just so the material would be somewhat familiar in lecture), take notes in class, and then review at home and read ahead for the next lecture, along with doing practice problems. What is the hardest part of organic II for you?
 
have to disagree ohgodidonteven. ochem2 exams are more about cramming than you would hope (at least when comparing to something like ochem1 or elec. & mag. in physics). it basically comes down to can you remember about 120 reactions stemming from ~20 main mechanisms (maybe 10 of which are actually useful). lots of electron pushing, lots of solvent memorization. If you use one of the books that gives you a rxn summary at the end of each chapter, just make a flashcard for everything you see, rinse and repeat the couple of days before the exam. be sure you can work through e- pushing in your head for anything less than 4 steps. being able to identify problem setup is key. for the nmr style stuff (though that might have been ochem1, don't really remember) it's just something you need to recognize. can't stress it enough though, e- pushing. just get used to seeing certain setups
 
i was very uncomfortable with organic chemistry for the first half. frankly ochem really shouldn't be taught during a condensed summer session; that's how i took my first quarter and i learned to hate the subject. but that's beside the point. i realized halfway in that the key was to not be intimidated by the details in the book. in fact, my exam scores shot up substantially, and study time dropped by about half when i stopped reading the book and started going over lecture recordings very very thoroughly, and then PRACTICING. it's tempting to treat this as a flashcard subject, it's not. you want to put yourself in the place where you actually understand the reactions and mechanisms from an electron-pushing standpoint, so that you might even be able to predict how two unfamiliar structures might react. when i crammed for various quizzes and exams, i would draw out the actual mechanism over and over until i understood what was really happening, and i would do as many book problems as i had time for. my professor was kind enough to post all his old tests so i would do timed versions of them the night before, grade them harshly with a red pen, then put a sticky note at the front of the printout with a summary of the stupid mistakes i had made on each test, then going over everything again a few hours before the quiz or exam. doing well in organic chemistry seems to require making errors and learning from them, that's why people keep emphasizing practice. (i did use flash cards but only on memorizing specific structures like nucleotides & amino acids -- not reactions.)

best of luck with organic chemistry, i learned to really enjoy it once i relaxed and treated it as a bunch of cool puzzles. work a ton at it but it's absolutely reachable.

here is my professor's website, he's a machine. lots of quizzes and exams and links. use the links to access like 10 years of practice. we're on the quarter system so here's q2 and q3.

http://web.pdx.edu/~wamserc/C335W10/
http://web.pdx.edu/~wamserc/C336S10/
 
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Cramming is a horrible idea for any class that you will have to draw upon in the future. With regard to O-Chem 2, you'll need some of the information for the mcat. Whenever you cram anything, you store the information in the short term memory loss category so have fun re-learning the content for when the mcat roles around. The key with organic chemistry is pattern recognition and actually making sure that you know/understand the material. For instance, look over a mechanism and try to make sense of what is happening. You know that carbonyl bonds are highly polar, and that the oxygen is negatively charged while the carbon is positively charged. First off, ask yourself why the oxygen is negative and why the carbon is positive. If you don't know, then look it up or ask. Use this strategy for every step in a mechanism. Also, do not just look over a mechanism; close the book and try to re-write the mechanism according to what makes sense rather than what comes off from memory. Practice is important to a certain extent but a firm grasp of the concepts will limit the amount of practice you need to apply these concepts.

The class is not really that bad; just keep a consistent study schedule, keep reviewing, keep truckin at the material until you understand what the hell is going on, do practice problems in areas that you feel you need additional practice in (no point in practicing the stuff you already are very confident in unless that somehow builds your self-esteem that you are getting work done which you actually are not getting any work done because you're just going over crap that you already know really well). Lastly, don't look at the content as all memorization. The information is actually pretty interesting, especially in the lab. If you can find a way to convince yourself that the knowledge your gaining is useful and applicable, then it makes studying a hell of a lot easier. Good luck buster
 
Practice, Practice, Practice OP. I would re-write all my notes and sample problems the next day, and then practice every other day for a couple hours until the week before the test, and then hit it hard cram style a couple nights before.

The key is understanding electron flow so the reactions make sense and then practicing to solidify that understanding. Good Luck!! You can make an A 🙂
 
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