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[jdog410]

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So I received an interview at OCPM. The question is my MCAT score is a 21 but in the email it says 22+ is preferred and on the website it says the minimum is 22. Should I be concerned that I will not be accepted because of 21 vs a 22 or that I would be conditionally accepted because of this?

 

[andy0311]

You really should ask the school b/c do you really want to waste time and money going to the interview for no reason! Yes i noticed on their website that says their mcat cutoff is 22! Could be an error on their part. But I'd be really upset if i went all the way to ohio for no reason and them telling me they made a mistake processing my applications and that i did not meet their admission requirements, you really should ask the school b4 making the trip=

 

[dyk343]

So I received an interview at OCPM. The question is my MCAT score is a 21 but in the email it says 22+ is preferred and on the website it says the minimum is 22. Should I be concerned that I will not be accepted because of 21 vs a 22 or that I would be conditionally accepted because of this?

If you get an interview you should be fine. I wouldnt retake it until after the interview and only if they tell you to do so.

Scholarships are given for higher MCAT/gpa scores. Just something to think about.

 

[dtrack22]

lol. OCPM's average MCAT score is 22-23...how do they have a cutoff of 22? They don't. I witnessed an individual with an 18 get accepted day of the interview. Which also begs the question, doesn't getting accepted the day of an interview make you mad? I mean, why did they let you spend hundreds of $$$ when they could have just called you and said "you're in"...better yet, we could have skyped while playing a game of "words with friends" (sorry my Barry friend, I had to), would save everyone a lot of time and money.

Their website has hardly any information about the school (admissions statistics, board pass rates, residency placement, etc.), the President refuses to integrate with any MD/DO program (which is one of the MAIN goals of vision 2015 if you're into all that), and also refuses to release board scores (we all know why). Why on God's green earth would anyone want to go to a program that runs like that? Ok, other than the half tuition scholarship?

It's all just mind bottle-ing to me...

 

[deleted285117]

lol. OCPM's average MCAT score is 22-23...how do they have a cutoff of 22? They don't. I witnessed an individual with an 18 get accepted day of the interview. Which also begs the question, doesn't getting accepted the day of an interview make you mad? I mean, why did they let you spend hundreds of $$$ when they could have just called you and said "you're in"...better yet, we could have skyped while playing a game of "words with friends" (sorry my Barry friend, I had to), would save everyone a lot of time and money.

Their website has hardly any information about the school (admissions statistics, board pass rates, residency placement, etc.), the President refuses to integrate with any MD/DO program (which is one of the MAIN goals of vision 2015 if you're into all that), and also refuses to release board scores (we all know why). Why on God's green earth would anyone want to go to a program that runs like that? Ok, other than the half tuition scholarship?

It's all just mind bottle-ing to me...

Why would knowing board scores matter if there's a 100% residency placement rate (for the last 20 years)?

 

[dyk343]

Why would knowing board scores matter if there's a 100% residency placement rate (for the last 20 years)?

Not trying to troll and I could be wrong, as I do not know what is going on in OCPM's residency placement services, but sometimes theres the statement above which is a version of something along the lines of "there is a 100% residency placement for those qualified to be placed"

Only schools tend to leave off the "qualified to be placed" part of their quote during interviews.

I had several schools tell me 100% residency placement. I dont believe them (especially with the current residency shortage #'s).



Scholl flat out says "of those qualified to be placed"... At least they are honest. (see Scholl Q and A thread for reference)

 

[dtrack22]

OCPM's 100% placement claim for the last 20 years is laughable. I don't think any of their current students believe it, and I know of 1 individual who met all of OCPM's requirements and didn't land a program. Can't be 100% if even one person doesn't place.

Whenever someone says you can go to any school and succeed, they are absolutely right. You can go to any program, get a solid residency, and have a great practice. But at some point, somebody needs to hold certain programs accountable for less than scrupulous admission and educational practices. We all talk about our training, and parity, and blah blah blah...yet nobody has the balls to stand up and say, we aren't going to settle for mediocrity. We currently have programs who REFUSE to take the necessary steps to complete the Vision 2015 objectives. Why does 2015 even exist when we know it will never actually be accomplished?

Currently there is only one of the 9 schools who publishes matriculation statistics, boards pass rates, residency placement statistics, AND ABPS certification pass rates on a regular basis. It is the only program that is actually holding themselves accountable for the success of their students by making that information EASILY accessible for anyone who may want to know. I'm not ragging on students or the curriculum/education at other programs, just some of the admin.

 

[hematosis]

I recommend people go to the following schools. I concur with vision 2015 and I think these schools are somewhat on the right track. dmu, scholl, temple, western, arizona. This is neither a ranking nor meant to bash any other school and i'm sure there are brilliant schools in all the pod schools. It's my opinion and i definitely think that integrating with a DO or MD school is the way to go.

 

[dtrack22]

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[hematosis]

Even NYCPM, who can't fully integrate with an MD/DO program without moving their entire campus (well building, you know what I mean), has at least done what they can to curb admissions slightly and work with Columbia med. That's all anyone is asking for when it comes to the programs who aren't already integrated and/or accepting too many students. That's the sign of a program who cares about our profession IMO.

The schools who already meet the integration requirement and have lower attrition rates should focus on improving board scores and clinical training to prepare students to match. Even DMU needs to continue to build relationships with residency directors as we don't graduate as many students as other programs (meaning less opportunity to put students in as many residency programs) and aren't geographically situated near a large number of programs. But that's exactly what our admin is focused on. Every program has things to work on, but every student should expect their school to do everything they can to create better opportunities for them and their classmates.

I totally agree with this comment.

 

[mildoc2016]

I totally agree with this comment.

#1 the statement that OCPM has 100% residency placement is NOT true

unless with the specification "for those whom qualify-- specifically in regard to board passage and being granted a license"

#2 other schools making this statement except for those with really small class sizes is NOT TRUE

How do I know this .... because I went to OCPM I know people personally more so than someone from another school whom knows one OCPM student .... whom did not get a placement. Perhaps those whom did not get a spot had something else wrong with their profile besides the minimun requirements to graduate

The MCAT score worry is something you dont have to worry about. If your even granted an interview your accepted ...... thats the gimmick. Unless you totally bosh the interview, you will be accepted

itll be up to you to graduate ....... if pretty much sink or swim ....for every school,


good luck

 

[Paulywog]

dtrack, please convince me with a logical argument why every school should be affiliated with a DO/MD program. I am still not convinced. I seriously want to know why, I am not disagreeing with you.
Is it better because you have a Med school teacher, Med students sitting in the same room, or more competition?

 

[dtrack22]

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[Paulywog]

I understand the points you make and thank you for responding. Barry is affiliated with the PA programs and we do get some great MD teachers for our internal med and other med classes. We have great basic science teachers as we share classes with the Masters of biomedical science students. We do get a few teachers/notes from Nova DO school.
The course notes/book has been completely overhauled and the quizes/tests are brutal. The LEA scores on the boards are going to go up quite a bit.
The class sizes are small. We are under 50 students and Barry is taking less students compared to the past.
Our board pass rates were above the Nations average and improved over the previous year so we are good there. The changes here are paying off.
Looks like we are good then.
We don't need to be associated with a DO school. We do rotate in our clinics with the DO students from Nova and the MD students from UM. Still don't see why we need DO students in our first 2 years. Wouldn't consider us the odd man out as we don't need to integrate with DO students. It happens to be that DMU, AZ, and Western have DO students at your schools, so therefore you can integrate. We have high caliber teachers and have amazing clinics and the Curriculum is solidifying.
We just got a new Doctor over research and that was our biggest weakness as a school.
Barry is a very solid program now, contrary to what all the Doctors told me about in the West coast when I was first applying to Podiatry schools.
I love talking to prospective students on interview day to find out what the local Podiatrists tell them about our program. Lies I tell you, all lies!

 

[dtrack22]

You don't have to defend or tell me about Barry's curriculum. I've seen most of it. Combining classes with MD/DO's isn't about sitting in a room with them as much as it is having the same curriculum as they do. Then the argument that our education is any different (which as absurd as it sounds is used by plenty of AMA folk), is bunk. That's the only reason I can think of for it's inclusion in Vision 2015.

 

[Paulywog]

Yes I do have to defend Barry because most of what you said about Barry was false or you were misinformed, like many of the Doctors, students, and pre-pods out there.
When people talk about integrating with the DO/MD students, they mean taking classes with them. Seems like we take the same classes as the Medical Schools that I looked up online. So does that mean we are integrating with the DO/MD students? We aren't taking classes with them, but we take the same classes. I guess we are off your list for not being integrated with DO/MD.
I do like what you said earlier about some schools taking too many students, especially the ones that shouldn't be there. It doesn't matter what school some of these students go to, they would fail the boards. The schools that have high pass rates don't take these kind of students in the first place. So are board pass rates reflective on a good curriculum or on a higher admission standard?

 

[dtrack22]

Check your pm. Misinformed? Hardly. But Barry gets some undeserved crap flinging around here every once in awhile, so defend away.

 

[dtrack22]

NYCPM's class of 2012 (the first class to do really well on the boards) started in the high 80's. 76 or 77 students took the exam. I wouldn't think that this particular class had any students who were prevented from sitting for the boards (90 down to 77 seems like a pretty reasonable attrition rate for NYCPM), although I'll admit that was my first thought when I saw the %.

I haven't heard of Arizona holding back students, but even with 30 students I would expect 1 person to fail. Since they post 100% pass rates every year it wouldn't surprise me if they did what you claim. I know there are AZPOD posters on here. Let's see if they have anything to say.

 

[air bud]

Yes I do have to defend Barry because most of what you said about Barry was false or you were misinformed, like many of the Doctors, students, and pre-pods out there.
When people talk about integrating with the DO/MD students, they mean taking classes with them. Seems like we take the same classes as the Medical Schools that I looked up online. So does that mean we are integrating with the DO/MD students? We aren't taking classes with them, but we take the same classes. I guess we are off your list for not being integrated with DO/MD.
I do like what you said earlier about some schools taking too many students, especially the ones that shouldn't be there. It doesn't matter what school some of these students go to, they would fail the boards. The schools that have high pass rates don't take these kind of students in the first place. So are board pass rates reflective on a good curriculum or on a higher admission standard?

Come on now, you can't make this argument. You can call a class whatever you want. It is about the material within, as well as who is presenting it.

 

[air bud]

Once you get to systems, yeah. But I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Take heart sounds for instance. We had to learn normal and some basics like atrial stenosis/regurg. We need to be able to recognize what is normal and what is not. Thats all. You hear something that doesnt sound right, send them to a person who knows what they are doing. Now, you can make an argument that we won't get enough exposure/practice to be able to find the zebras.

Without sending this thread spiraling out of control, this is just 1 example of why we go to "podiatry school." We are going to go way more in depth into biomechanics, pathology, anatomy....of the foot/leg than any other MD/DO student. Do we say they got a watered down Anatomy course? No. Our schooling is just different. It has a different purpose. It has a different focus. It produces different results. It really is that simple. It is not right, not wrong, just different. There are lots of similarities, but lots of differences. I personally don't give 2 craps about being in the same classroom as some DO's. It doesnt affect my performance whatsoever. However, I do think it has a positive affect on faculty/administration. It is a way to hold the feet to the fire. It is a way to keep that edge. I think the whole DPM vs. MD thing can be a good thing if you know how to channel it. Always strive to improve and be better. Always look for situations where you can educate. Once you get to the mountain top, whats left?

 

[air bud]

This is a FACT. Overall, the pod school curriculum at all of the schools are watered down in some shape or form when you compare it to the typical MD/DO program. Yeah...I said it.

It is not a "watered down version of medical school." This has a negative connotation. If you have different goals/end results, then you have different objectives that need to be taught. It is a different type of school. It is podiatry school. It is a school designed to produce medical professionals who specialize in podiatric medicine.

When I say different type of school, I don't mean to imply that Vision 2015 doesnt have merit in some its goals regarding curriculum. But I think they can be implemented, as well as keeping some of the unique aspects of our curriculum.

 

[that1guyfromFL]

I personally don't give 2 craps about being in the same classroom as some DO's. It doesnt affect my performance whatsoever.However, I do think it has a positive affect on faculty/administration. It is a way to hold the feet to the fire.

Exactly.

 

[Paulywog]

Come on now, you can't make this argument. You can call a class whatever you want. It is about the material within, as well as who is presenting it.

Yes I can, and I did. When studying for the boards, I used USMLE materials and all of the information from these review books were presented in my courses throughout the first 2 years. The presenters are great. What other argument do I need to make. What makes a Professor at a MD/DO school better than one that just teaches at a Podiatry school? We do have many Professors that also teach at the nearby MD/DO schools and they aren't better than our other teachers.
I agree with all the comments you made after the above comment. I don't think we have a watered-down version of medical school rather a more specialized curriculum from the get-go which focuses on different topics.
dtrack, I PMed you. I won't correct you in public.

 

[air bud]

Yes I can, and I did. When studying for the boards, I used USMLE materials and all of the information from these review books were presented in my courses throughout the first 2 years. The presenters are great. What other argument do I need to make. What makes a Professor at a MD/DO school better than one that just teaches at a Podiatry school? We do have many Professors that also teach at the nearby MD/DO schools and they aren't better than our other teachers.
I agree with all the comments you made after the above comment. I don't think we have a watered-down version of medical school rather a more specialized curriculum from the get-go which focuses on different topics.
dtrack, I PMed you. I won't correct you in public.

Sorry for the confusion. All I meant was you can't build an argument on the name of a class. All Star Biomechanics 101 doesnt mean squat if it is taught by a ninth grader.

 

[air bud]

Passing the USMLE and APMLE are two different stories. I'm confident that more podiatry students would not pass the USMLE then they would the APMLE.

Also let me get this straight. Podiatry as profession wants to be viewed as comparable healthcare professionals to MD/DO...yet we don't have comparable curriculums. If you want to say we take similar courses but have a curriculum thats tailored towards podiatric medicine then thats fine. But what about general medicine? Why are podiatry students not as adequate in their overall general medicine knowledge? You can ask any MD/DO who is around podiatry students during clinical rotations and I think a lot would agree that podiatry students are not as adequate compared to the MD/DO students who might be rotating as well. My sources are friends who are current MD/DO docs and friends who have family members who are doctors. Why do we have to have a tailored curriculum? Why can't we get our specialized training when we get to residency?

This is an issue that really concerns me. I don't want to feel I wasn't prepared enough for my rotations when the time comes.

Is this true? I thought podiatry wanted to be viewed as Foot and Ankle experts and to advance the importance of proper foot care. Thats what I want. Ask PADPM and Kidsfeet what they want. I will let Dtrack punch me in the face if being viewed as comparable healthcare professionals to MD/DO is anywhere on their first 100 goals/aspirations.

 

[air bud]

Passing the USMLE and APMLE are two different stories. I'm confident that more podiatry students would not pass the USMLE then they would the APMLE.

Also let me get this straight. Podiatry as profession wants to be viewed as comparable healthcare professionals to MD/DO...yet we don't have comparable curriculums. If you want to say we take similar courses but have a curriculum thats tailored towards podiatric medicine then thats fine. But what about general medicine? Why are podiatry students not as adequate in their overall general medicine knowledge? You can ask any MD/DO who is around podiatry students during clinical rotations and I think a lot would agree that podiatry students are not as adequate compared to the MD/DO students who might be rotating as well. My sources are friends who are current MD/DO docs and friends who have family members who are doctors. Why do we have to have a tailored curriculum? Why can't we get our specialized training when we get to residency?

This is an issue that really concerns me. I don't want to feel I wasn't prepared enough for my rotations when the time comes.

Sounds like you need to drop out and go apply at your neighborhood MD/DO school. You will be dearly missed.

 

[Paulywog]

Sorry for the confusion. All I meant was you can't build an argument on the name of a class. All Star Biomechanics 101 doesnt mean squat if it is taught by a ninth grader.

I might have read it wrong, I haven't had much sleep because we just had baby #3 a couple days ago. I get what you are saying.
Ankle Breaker...I wouldn't say the MD/DO students are more knowledgeable or more prepared in clinics because we are in there with them at our clinics and I feel I know as much as them in most cases and same for my classmates in other clinics. The MD students in my hospital are from a Caribbean Med School, so maybe that is the reason. The top students can hold their own.

 

[dtrack22]

It is now my goal to get PADPM and/or Kidsfeet (is and/or professional enough for these forums?) to admit to having that aspiration.

 

[ldsrmdude]

Call me crazy but isnt the reason that NYCPM's board pass rate has increased so much is because they don't allow students, who are in academic difficulty, take the boards? Doesn't Arizona do the same thing? I've head 'Zona makes their students take an "in house" board exam and if they don't pass that then they aren't allowed to sit for the APMLE until they pass it. This is all hearsay but i wouldn't be shocked if it were true.

I haven't heard of Arizona holding back students, but even with 30 students I would expect 1 person to fail. Since they post 100% pass rates every year it wouldn't surprise me if they did what you claim. I know there are AZPOD posters on here. Let's see if they have anything to say.

I haven't ever heard of any "in house board exam." I can't comment on classes in the past, but that is not something that I ever took. The only people in my class that didn't take the boards were a few students who hadn't passed Pharmacology. 1 retook and passed Pharm at another institution and passed the boards in October, and the other 2 are going to graduate with the class of 2013 now and will take their boards this year for the first time. There are always rumors about why certain programs have high board pass rates (or whether the reported rates are accurate). Our small class size helped for sure, but I also think our first 2 years prepared us well. AZPod has it's weaknesses, but so far board pass rates have been a strength.

 

[dtrack22]

Thanks ldsmrdude...there ya go. No keeping students from part I, except of course those who haven't passed certain classes, just like any other program.

 

[hematosis]

We just need to take the USMLE exam. That will end the "my teacher is better than yours," and "my school is better because its integrated with MD/DO"...etc. Take the USMLE, pass it, and end this whole podiatrist are not real doctors debate. Because honestly, its the only last thing the MD's and Do's got on podiatrists.

You can be equivalent to MD's and DO's and be the expert foot and ankle surgeon. So both ankle breaker and air bud can be happy.

 

[bonvivant07]

Can someone tell me what is so bad about Barry? I keep seeing entire threads bashing them. Is there some huge deficiency in their program?

 

[air bud]

We just need to take the USMLE exam. That will end the "my teacher is better than yours," and "my school is better because its integrated with MD/DO"...etc. Take the USMLE, pass it, and end this whole podiatrist are not real doctors debate. Because honestly, its the only last thing the MD's and Do's got on podiatrists.

You can be equivalent to MD's and DO's and be the expert foot and ankle surgeon. So both ankle breaker and air bud can be happy.

How do you propose fitting in LLA, biomechanics, Surgery, Pod Med.....? Our systems courses would need to go more in depth. Less time for clinic. Less time for externships.

Plus, with the current quality of Pod matriculants, we may not like what the USMLE scores say. Just taking the test doesnt mean squat.

 

[hematosis]

How do you propose fitting in LLA, biomechanics, Surgery, Pod Med.....? Our systems courses would need to go more in depth. Less time for clinic. Less time for externships.

Plus, with the current quality of Pod matriculants, we may not like what the USMLE scores say. Just taking the test doesnt mean squat.

It might mean "squat" to you, but to the current 661,400+ practicing physicians it means standardization. .
I understand your argument about fitting in the podiatry courses with the med school didactics, but this is definitely possible. DO's are able to undergo their osteopathic training and still take the necessary didactic courses to sit for the USMLE exam. We don't have to take all three steps. Why not take the step 1 at least? students at western University take the same EXACT courses as DO's do. (not some water down version). I'm just saying, given permission to sit for the usmle, I wouldn't think twice about it.

 

[air bud]

It might mean "squat" to you, but to the current 661,400+ practicing physicians it means standardization. .
I understand your argument about fitting in the podiatry courses with the med school didactics, but this is definitely possible. DO's are able to undergo their osteopathic training and still take the necessary didactic courses to sit for the USMLE exam. We don't have to take all three steps. Why not take the step 1 at least? students at western University take the same EXACT courses as DO's do. (not some water down version). I'm just saying, given permission to sit for the usmle, I wouldn't think twice about it.

OMM take a few hours a week, if that. So there goes that argument.
What I mean by taking the test doesnt mean squat, is that scores count. No pass/fail like we are used to. A horrible score is just as bad if not worse than not taking it. If you think respect comes from taking the USMLE (which I don't think it does), then you are WRONG. IF respect were to come, it would be from scoring well on the USMLE. I don't see a way to continue with the current pod education, while at the same time squeezing in enough info to prepare for the USMLE. There is no reason to stretch students thin, then everything suffers.

 

[dtrack22]

Two problems with the USMLE

The director of the NBME has said that he will not let podiatry students sit for the USMLE.

The DO pass rate is about 10% lower than MD students (for step I). If the top 30%-40% of DO's who take the exam only pass it 82% of the time, what do you think the pass rate would be for podiatry students as a whole?

Compound the above issue with the fact that students have ZERO incentive to study for the USMLE when we have our own boards to prepare for, and the number is likely to be even smaller.

 

[air bud]

Dtrack beat me to the statistics. Also by hematosis's theory DOs who only took the COMLEX don't have the respect of other MDs. On top of this more residencys are now accepting the COMLEX so less DOs are tAking the usmle.

 

[hematosis]

Dtrack beat me to the statistics. Also by hematosis's theory DOs who only took the COMLEX don't have the respect of other MDs. On top of this more residencys are now accepting the COMLEX so less DOs are tAking the usmle.

ugh nice try,

COMPLEX = well accepted exam among the medical profession.

NBPME ? well not so much...

listen, how are we going to claim that our medical school is 'similar' or equivalent to osteo's and allo's, if we are scared to take their board exam? We are scared that we might get a "low score", or that a big chunk may not pass, blah blah. I don't wish to take the USMLE so that i can get respect, its more to prove to myself that I know my basic material as well as the MD's and DO's. I'ts one thing to not be able to sit for the exam and its another to be scared. If your concern is that you or your colleagues wont pass the big boys exam, then perhaps you deserve to be held at a different standard than physicians.

 

[doc1107]

So I received an interview at OCPM. The question is my MCAT score is a 21 but in the email it says 22+ is preferred and on the website it says the minimum is 22. Should I be concerned that I will not be accepted because of 21 vs a 22 or that I would be conditionally accepted because of this?

You won't have a problem. OCPM takes way too many students knowing some will fail out. They have the biggest starting class size and about 20% will be gone by the end of the 1st year. And guess what, they keep that tuition dollar! They need a way to pay off that loan to build the new campus.

 

[doc1107]

Can someone tell me what is so bad about Barry? I keep seeing entire threads bashing them. Is there some huge deficiency in their program?

Yes, a partner in my practice went there. He just graduated 4 years ago and said that a lot of Prof. come and go and that the POD program is second fiddle to the DO school program.

 

[air bud]

ugh nice try,

COMPLEX = well accepted exam among the medical profession.

NBPME ? well not so much...

listen, how are we going to claim that our medical school is 'similar' or equivalent to osteo's allo's, if we are scared to take their board exam? We are scared that we might get a "low score", or that a big chunk may not pass, blah blah. I don't wish to take the USMLE so that i can get respect, its more to prove to myself that I know my basic material as well as the MD's and DO's. I'ts one thing to not be able to sit for the exam and its another to be scared. If your concern is that you or your colleagues wont pass the big boys exam, then perhaps you deserve to be held at a different standard than physicians.

Listen I get what you are saying. I am saying there is not enough time
To get your pod education AND adequately prepare you for the USMLE. We are here to become pods so that is what the focus should be

 

[PodunkUDPM]

You won't have a problem. OCPM takes way too many students knowing some will fail out. They have the biggest starting class size and about 20% will be gone by the end of the 1st year. And guess what, they keep that tuition dollar! They need a way to pay off that loan to build the new campus.

the building has been paid off since its inception. the cleveland clinic payed well for the old building and its land.

 

[PodSquad7]

ugh nice try,

COMPLEX = well accepted exam among the medical profession.

NBPME ? well not so much...

listen, how are we going to claim that our medical school is 'similar' or equivalent to osteo's and allo's, if we are scared to take their board exam? We are scared that we might get a "low score", or that a big chunk may not pass, blah blah. I don't wish to take the USMLE so that i can get respect, its more to prove to myself that I know my basic material as well as the MD's and DO's. I'ts one thing to not be able to sit for the exam and its another to be scared. If your concern is that you or your colleagues wont pass the big boys exam, then perhaps you deserve to be held at a different standard than physicians.

Listen, if you're so worried about trying to prove that can do just as well on the USMLE as your self proclaimed "Big Boy" MD's than maybe you should have gone to a MD school and done a foot and Ankle fellowship instead of going to Pod school. But than again unless you had some amazing MCAT score and GPA (and you may have) you probably couldn't have gotten into MD school and that's why you are here at pod school.

Me on the other hand, will admit that I didn't have the best MCAT score but I have always wanted to go into podiatry since back in high school and I love it. I don't care about taking the USMLE because in the end even if I pass the darn test I won't be able to work as an GYN or even a family physician for that matter. And why would I want to spend time learning material that I will never see in my practice just to pass a test? So that I can feel all warm and fuzzy about myself?

 

[air bud]

Listen, if you're so worried about trying to prove that can do just as well on the USMLE as your self proclaimed "Big Boy" MD's than maybe you should have gone to a MD school and done a foot and Ankle fellowship instead of going to Pod school. But than again unless you had some amazing MCAT score and GPA (and you may have) you probably couldn't have gotten into MD school and that's why you are here at pod school.

Me on the other hand, will admit that I didn't have the best MCAT score but I have always wanted to go into podiatry since back in high school and I love it. I don't care about taking the USMLE because in the end even if I pass the darn test I won't be able to work as an GYN or even a family physician for that matter. And why would I want to spend time learning material that I will never see in my practice just to pass a test? So that I can feel all warm and fuzzy about myself?

You are missing some of the conversation. Hematosis is advocating changing the pod curriculum so that we do learn stuff for the USMLE.

 

[hematosis]

Listen, if you're so worried about trying to prove that can do just as well on the USMLE as your self proclaimed "Big Boy" MD's than maybe you should have gone to a MD school and done a foot and Ankle fellowship instead of going to Pod school. But than again unless you had some amazing MCAT score and GPA (and you may have) you probably couldn't have gotten into MD school and that's why you are here at pod school.

Me on the other hand, will admit that I didn't have the best MCAT score but I have always wanted to go into podiatry since back in high school and I love it. I don't care about taking the USMLE because in the end even if I pass the darn test I won't be able to work as an GYN or even a family physician for that matter. And why would I want to spend time learning material that I will never see in my practice just to pass a test? So that I can feel all warm and fuzzy about myself?

Relax chuck, I'm on your side. Just wondering if we could make a few changes here and there in the future and maybe we could have permission to sit for the USMLE. However, as air bud points out, its really wishful thinking because our curriculum is dense as it is.

I'm absolutely happy with Podiatry. I picked it over DO and would pick it again and again and again.

 

[Paulywog]

Yes, a partner in my practice went there. He just graduated 4 years ago and said that a lot of Prof. come and go and that the POD program is second fiddle to the DO school program.

Most of the professors have been there for many years and Barry does not have a DO program. Why are you making things up? I don't know what your partner was talking about.