S sticky1 Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined May 29, 2009 Messages 25 Reaction score 0 Aug 8, 2012 #1 Members don't see this ad. Are there any elements which do not follow the octet rule? Are there any exceptions to the octet rule?
Members don't see this ad. Are there any elements which do not follow the octet rule? Are there any exceptions to the octet rule?
A Anthrax Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Oct 5, 2011 Messages 139 Reaction score 20 Aug 8, 2012 #2 Boron usually forms 3 bonds (6 electrons)....covalent bonds that is, obviously. Also, I would say elements which have a 3d subshell are capable of forming more than 4 bonds. Upvote 0 Downvote
Boron usually forms 3 bonds (6 electrons)....covalent bonds that is, obviously. Also, I would say elements which have a 3d subshell are capable of forming more than 4 bonds.
britsmedicine Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined May 2, 2012 Messages 19 Reaction score 1 Aug 9, 2012 #3 anything that is beyond the 2nd row can have an expanded octet Upvote 0 Downvote
Godric Full Member 10+ Year Member Joined Dec 30, 2010 Messages 299 Reaction score 0 Aug 9, 2012 #4 britsmedicine said: anything that is beyond the 2nd row can have an expanded octet Click to expand... +1 or I just remember anything past Ne will violate the octet rule. Same thing different wording. Upvote 0 Downvote
britsmedicine said: anything that is beyond the 2nd row can have an expanded octet Click to expand... +1 or I just remember anything past Ne will violate the octet rule. Same thing different wording.
sciencebooks Full Member 15+ Year Member Joined Jul 27, 2009 Messages 803 Reaction score 20 Aug 10, 2012 #5 Anthrax said: Boron usually forms 3 bonds (6 electrons)....covalent bonds that is, obviously. Also, I would say elements which have a 3d subshell are capable of forming more than 4 bonds. Click to expand... Yeah, this one definitely comes up a lot for the ones UNDER 8. Plus, of course, H2 and such. Upvote 0 Downvote
Anthrax said: Boron usually forms 3 bonds (6 electrons)....covalent bonds that is, obviously. Also, I would say elements which have a 3d subshell are capable of forming more than 4 bonds. Click to expand... Yeah, this one definitely comes up a lot for the ones UNDER 8. Plus, of course, H2 and such.
Erythropoietin EPO 10+ Year Member Joined Oct 25, 2011 Messages 456 Reaction score 0 Aug 10, 2012 #6 H, Be, B... Upvote 0 Downvote
going2breakdown Hoop jumper extraordinaire 10+ Year Member Joined Feb 2, 2012 Messages 140 Reaction score 26 Aug 15, 2012 #7 One of those guys above has the right idea. BELOW period (row) 2. However! Formal charge rules still apply e.g. for sulfur has six valence electrons and still wants to have two lone pairs and a two bonds to get 0, OR six bonds to it, either way... Upvote 0 Downvote
One of those guys above has the right idea. BELOW period (row) 2. However! Formal charge rules still apply e.g. for sulfur has six valence electrons and still wants to have two lone pairs and a two bonds to get 0, OR six bonds to it, either way...