ODS for 3rd year rotation?

[lovableDR]

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Could any one please give me some advice? I was planning on taking ODS this summer but I might not be able to make it due to a family situation. I'm thinking of taking it after graduation, before starting residency. Would that affect my chance of getting into Navy residency? Also, would that cause some problem with rotating in the military facility during my 3rd and 4th year?

One last question, I'm a DO student. Do I need to take USMLE or the COMPLEX is good for military residency? Thank you for all your responses! 🙂

 

[Kishkinde]

When clicking on the military medicine forums...scrolll down all the way to the bottom where you can see how you would like certain 'threads' on this forum to appear. Under which posts you would like to show, click on "from the beginning" and it will show you all the posts that have been in this forum.

There are some 84 odd pages of different 'threads'. Your questions has been discussed, so do a search and you'll find your answer. You will also find an answer to a lot of other questions you may have as well.

Oh and it's the COMLEX...not Complex.😉

 

[psychbender]

Each service has different policies, and while I can't give you the Navy answer, I can give you the Army answer, and that might work just as well. If you are unable to attend ODS/OBC/COT at the regular times, then seriously see if you can do it between third and fourth year. Ideally, you should have it done before you graduate, as they may require you to have it before starting internship (which may push your internship start date back, and may cause other problems). The frequent-poster Tired is one such person who went this route. When last questioned about it, he said that he did not believe it had any significant effect on internship (Ortho intern). The AF "requires" you to have COT completed before you are allowed to rotate at any AF hospitals. The Army doesn't care, and I am not sure about the Navy.

For Army, I was told to just take the COMLEX, as they don't particularly care which boards you take, just as long as you did well. If there is any chance that you may pursue civilian training (not really an option in the Army), you might want to take USMLE as well, as some programs flat-out won't accept COMLEX. Keep in mind, you are only reimbursed for COMLEX, so you would have to pay for the USMLE yourself.

 

[Perrotfish]

The Army doesn't care, and I am not sure about the Navy.

I'm almost sure you dont need ODS to do rotations in the Navy. The only problem this should cause is that you'll need to self study the Navy regs so as not to luck like a schmuck on your AD rotations. Also there are more than 20 people ahead of me on the waiting list for this summer's ODS, so if the Navy cares about you completing it before rotating a whole lot of us are screwed.

Also, make sure you're not allowed to use one of your school's elective rotations for ODS. The Navy is the only service that has their officer training year round, so it should be possible to scheudle an ODS session after Step 1, if your school will let you. My school said if I couldn't get into ODS this summer they'd let me go then.

 

[NavyFP]

I'm almost sure you dont need ODS to do rotations in the Navy. The only problem this should cause is that you'll need to self study the Navy regs so as not to luck like a schmuck on your AD rotations.

You don't need ODS to do rotations. It is preferable, but not required.
(despite what the GME office at San Diego may say.)

Yes, you should learn some of the basics about the Navy. The Blue Jacket's Manual and Naval Officer's Guide are available on Amazon. They have a lot of good information in them and should be part of every Naval Officer's library.

 

[NavyDoc2011]

Ditto to what NavyFP said.

In addition, you should read your HPSP Student Handbook. Typically, if you do not do your ODS before school or between your 1st and 2nd year, the next most common way (really only possible way) is to do it as soon as you graduate from medical school. It has been done and I know people who have, done it during the break after 2nd year prior to your first rotations (if time permits). Some people have gotten the ok to start a rotation late because of ODS, but this is rare.

Anyone can correct me if i'm wrong, but you will be doing an internship year in the Navy prior to your residency training. In that regard, they understand that if you need to go to ODS, you need to go to ODS.

 

[NavyFP]

.... if you need to go to ODS, you need to go to ODS.

The may not like it, but they deal with it.

 

[BrickHouseMD]

You don't need ODS to do rotations. It is preferable, but not required.
(despite what the GME office at San Diego may say.)

Yes, you should learn some of the basics about the Navy. The Blue Jacket's Manual and Naval Officer's Guide are available on Amazon. They have a lot of good information in them and should be part of every Naval Officer's library.

Also make sure to memorize the Sailor's Creed so that if a red-roper stops you in the hallway of the hospital you can 'smartly' snap to attention and recite it like your life depends on it. Wait....nevermind.

 

[lovableDR]

thank you all for your responses!