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I'm going to be applying to med school this coming june and I'm having problems narrowing down my list or med schools. I'm just curious as to how many schools people applied to and from that, how many schools wanted an interview?
 
I applied to 12...went to seven interviews...withdrew from 3 interviews...waiting to hear from 2 more places about interviews.

I'd advise applying to at least one decent school that sends out some acceptances really early (i.e. UMich). This can save you lots of money by potentially letting you withdraw from some schools.
 
I think 25-30 is a good number if you're a Cali state resident: all of your instate schools and then a bunch of safeties out of state: SLU, MCO, UVM, MYMC, UMiami as well as the really good schools that just might pick you up (Harvard, Hopkins, Yale, Penn, WashU, UMich, Mayo). It's not cheap...but it beats moving to Nebraska and sitting on your ass for a couple of years until you become a state resident. If you live in NY, PA, or OH, I think you're fine with 10-15 schools.

Just my opinion...interested to hear others.
 
umiami is a safety?

what if im fla resident ...what do you recommend for me!😛
 
I agree, if you're in Cali, you should double what other people say - I applied to 37 (I added 5 recently as the UC's began to drop me). There are good things and bad things about living here, I guess.
 
I agree with ewing... Cali is a difficult place to apply to med school from. It also depends on your application: Is it strong overall? Do you have good numbers? Good ECs? Factors such as those have to be taken into consideration. I'm from Cali and I applied to 25 - only 2 rejections so far.

Also, don't apply to schools where you would dread living. I avoided states all together because I did not want to live there. It all comes down to if you think the school will fit you- curriculum, diversity, cost, location, friendliness of students... the list goes on.
 
I won't be applying to more than 12, even if I'm a cali resident. 30's just too much money and time.
 
Originally posted by Brickhouse
I agree, if you're in Cali, you should double what other people say - I applied to 37 (I added 5 recently as the UC's began to drop me). There are good things and bad things about living here, I guess.

Bricky,
Crap! The UC's started to drop you? I haven't even gotten secondaries from LA and Davis. This sucks...
 
Originally posted by Pinkertinkle
I won't be applying to more than 12, even if I'm a cali resident. 30's just too much money and time.

You must have a GREAT app!! (and great confidence 🙂 )
 
Originally posted by DieselPetrolGrl
umiami is a safety?

what if im fla resident ...what do you recommend for me!😛

I recommend a trip to the beach and a drink with an umbrella in it, lucky bastard.

Dude, they are a great school with a 25% acceptance rate...both in and out of state. I think you'll be fine as an in-stater.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the Philly schools...Temple, Drexel...they take kids from all over and aren't Harvard-Hopkins type places.
 
Originally posted by Pinkertinkle
I won't be applying to more than 12, even if I'm a cali resident. 30's just too much money and time.

Ok well then let me be more specific;

if your MCAT is around 30 and your GPA is around 3.5, then the above applies - I'm sure if you're well above average in those categories, you're fine, 12 schools is cool. I wish I were in that boat. I wish I could put limits on things because of time and money, I don't have that convenience.

Yeah, Davis, SF and SD have all ditched me, still waiting on USC and LA. Oh well.
 
you cali ppl have it nice with your instate status at all those med schools! In oklahoma were stuck with only 2 =/. and only one is allo.
 
i'm from cali and i applied 43.

if you are not from cali...then it depends what state you are from and how many instates you have etc...

and us cali students are not too lucky....half of us are forced to leave the state and fight for those small number of out of state slots that are available....
 
Originally posted by Abraham
you cali ppl have it nice with your instate status at all those med schools! In oklahoma were stuck with only 2 =/. and only one is allo.
lay off the pipe homie. we have it the worst out here in cali. nearly 4000 applicants, and only 500 or so in state spots.
 
Originally posted by Abraham
you cali ppl have it nice with your instate status at all those med schools! In oklahoma were stuck with only 2 =/. and only one is allo.

The down side to CA is that there are too many premeds to shake a stick at. They're everywhere. I've heard from advisors that UC Berkeley alone has 600-700 people a YEAR take the MCAT. Granted some of that is overlap others don;t apply etc, but imagine how many applicants that makes. (Luckily, I didn't got there 🙂 my sister did).

Even with so many state schools competition is intense at every darn one and a lot of people go out of state or out of the US even. When I applied, UCD was the biggest feeder school to St George of the Caribbean. Any state school willing to take CA students will have CA students. There's just something in the water here.

As an MS4 applying to residency in EM, all those wayward Californians are trying to get back, and the competition for CA EM residencies is exquisite. Good luck to you CA folks! Even if you're banished to the snowy nether regions for med school, you CAN come back! And you may end up with my residency spot. Grrrr!
😛

Oh, and to answer the original Q--err on the side of more applications rather than fewer--you can always chuck secondaries or cancel interviews, but if you find yourself in Feb sweating that you only have a couple of invites, it's too late to add schools, and you don;t want this ordeal twice if you can avoid it! A lot of secondaries are similiar essay Q anyway. It's not at all uncommon to apply to >30 schools (only if you're willing to go to all 30something if accepted). However, it won;t help to apply to 500 schools if you are the absolute bomb or if you are clearly borderline and struggling. The value of many apps is for people in the middle whose application may be good but may just get overlooked in the piles of equivalently good apps. Then it's kind of subjective and just chance whether something from your application resonates with the person reading.
 
Here are some good criteria to follow:

Location: An excellent way to trim down your list of schools is to look at location. Rural or urban? Hot, temperate, or cold climate? Be honest with yourself and make a decision. If you want to live in a city with a warmer climate (e.g., Dallas or Atlanta), then only apply to medical schools in this environment. Don't make any exceptions.

Curriculum: Another good criterion for selecting med schools is the curriculum at schools. There are significant differences among the 125 med schools in the U.S. For example, some med schools REQUIRE their med students to do basic science or clinical research (e.g., Duke allots an entire freakin year to mandatory research). If you have no interest whatsoever in research, then do not apply to a school with a research requirement. Some medical schools have very traditional curricula, involving 2 years of lecture-based preclinical courses and 2 years of clinical rotations. Do you want a clear separation between preclinical (i.e., nose in the books) and clinical work (i.e., interaction with actual patients)? If you do, opt for a traditional curriculum. If you do not, then you should apply to med schools with longitudinal integration of preclinical and clinical work, meaning that you see patients in the 1st year.
Some schools have deviated considerably from the traditional curriculum by exclusive implementation of problem-based learning (e.g., Harvard). Others mix it up--the lectures are supplemented by PBL (e.g., Baylor). So, curriculum is very important. Research it well.

Price tag and prestige: A third criterion is the price tag. If you're interested in academic medicine, prestige is important, but not so important that it overrides location, preferences regarding the curriculum and, most importantly, your career aspirations. An important thing to keep in mind is that, generally speaking, prestige translates into tremendous debt (the average indebtedness of graduates from highly prestigious med schools exceeds $100,000). There are, of course, exceptions to this correlation (UCSF, Baylor, and Mayo come to mind). Nonetheless, if you are 100% convinced that academic medicine is not for you, meaning that you hate research and teaching, then prestige should not factor into your decision. If private practice is your goal, then cheaper is wiser. Go to the cheapest med school you can. If you cannot positively rule out academic medicine at this point but you're leaning towards private practice, then you should apply to a few prestigious programs (one or two from the top ten and 1-2 from the top 20, according to USNews rankings).

Credentials of previous matriculants: It's important to look at the credentials of previous matriculants. To have a decent shot at a given school, your numbers should be comparable to those of former matriculants. Now, this does NOT mean that you are absolutely barred from acceptance to a given medical school if your numbers are considerably lower than the published average. People get into Harvard with a 24 on the MCAT. Numbers are not everything in the admissions process. Indeed, you ought to apply to ANY medical school that seems like a great fit for your temperament, preferences, etc. However, comparable numbers generally translate into a higher probability of being invited to interview and, hence, a greater likelihood of being accepted. Just something to keep in mind when you decide on which schools to apply to. Remember: each medical school will probably set you back $100 or more in application fees. It's OK to apply to dream schools; just do it wisely. Don't throw away your money.

In terms of the actual number of schools, I think that 12-15 is a good range; outstanding applicants can lean towards 12, less than outstanding toward 15. If location, curriculum, price tag, prestige, and credentials of previous matriculants are seriously taken into consideration, then 12-15 should be just right.
 
Originally posted by ewing
I recommend a trip to the beach and a drink with an umbrella in it, lucky bastard.

Dude, they are a great school with a 25% acceptance rate...both in and out of state. I think you'll be fine as an in-stater.

Oh, and I forgot to mention the Philly schools...Temple, Drexel...they take kids from all over and aren't Harvard-Hopkins type places.

and being a cane undergrad will help me right? schools shoudl always take their unders! but last few yrs ive known ppl who have graduated from here and applied to our own (UM med) school and havent gotten in... IM FREAKED...let me in dang it.....too ..cooold....up....north...of....orlando!
 
I think that I personally applied to too many schools. I sent the AMCAS to 22 schools, filled out secondaries for 20 schools recieved 18 interview invitations, declined 4 interview invitations and have so far been accepted by 6 schools....I think I was just nervous about getting in....If I had to do it all over again, I would definitely only apply to like 12-14 schools...Hope this helps🙂
 
Keep it under 35 if you have major holes in your app (MD and DO).

Under 25 if you have a few minor "oopses" in your record.

Under 15 if you're a model student (GPA >3.8, MCAT >35, great ECs and LORs).

Even if you're a model student though, make sure to apply to a good mix. Perhaps 10 "great" schools, a state school or two, and a couple of "safeties" (although there aren't any true safeties).

I made the mistake of applying to 45 schools because I'm in the "major holes" category. I still have secondaries to do. I suspect that I simply won't return a few at this point. 😛
 
I applied to 10. One I withdrew from pre-secondary. One put me on hold pre-interview. Two I simply never heard from again. Six offered interviews.
Orriginally I only applied to six. I think some of the new schools I added blew me off because they realized they weren't my first choice.
It depends on the applicant, but potentially you only need to apply to one school. I personally know of quite a few sucess stories, people who only wanted to go the the U of Utah. Applied only there and were accepted. I wouldn't reccomend that strategy but it certainly would've saved me a lot of money.
Definately apply to your state school(s). I didn't and if I am not accepted I will regret my selectivity for a long time.
 
I applied to five. I have slightly above average stats. I'm already in one. Withdrew my app from one, and rejected from one. So I'm waiting to hear from two more.

My school has a remarkably high acceptance rate for med schools so our pre med advisor only says to apply to 5-7 schools.

Granted, my list wasn't Harvard, Mayo, Hopkins, Duke, and UCSF. I chose schools that I had a reasonable chance of getting into and one reach school.

It saved me money, time, and having to receive an unnecessary number of rejection letters.
 
Have a strategy. Apply to schools whose mission statement matches your career goals. I applied to 15 schools, but I chose them carefully based on location, curriculum and extracurricular opportunities in policy and research.

So far, I'm hearing from most of them for interviews, but no acceptance yet. I'll let you know when I'm done with this long, long wait.
 
I applied to 10 MD and 4 DO programs, and I am really glad I didn't apply to more. It is expensive to pay the primary and secondary fees; time-consuming and arduous to fill in the secondaries; and very very expensive to visit schools for interviews.

You can rule out a lot of places based on location and residency requirements for applicants. Forget Arizona, Washington, Utah, New Mexico, etc. unless you are a resident or have strong direct ties to the state. If you hate cold, don't apply to anything in Minnesota or Michigan. Also, check the prereqs carefully and be sure you don't apply to a place that requires courses you won't have time to complete.
 
I applied to 8 schools. 6 interviews (so far... I am still holding out some hope on the last two schools) 2 acceptances, 1 waitlist, 3 decisions still out (2 schools non-rolling). I guess the thing for me is that I would be more than happy at my state school, and felt comfortable with my chances there.

To put this in context, I am a "model student" with enough shadowing experience and a team sport for an extracurric that demonstrates dedication to something and the ability to work as part of a team. However, my app does not scream "I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DYING TO BE A DOCTOR!" but rather, "I am well-rounded, enjoiy working with people, and (I hope) would be good at and enjoy practicing medicine."

For me, in making my list, my thoughts were, "what schools would I realistically consider over my state school?" based on:
*location - within 1 hr of the coast, no more than a few miles south of the Mason-Dixon line, and not in NYC. east coast preferable, but not necessary
*reputation vs. cost (of attendence + travel to interview. for example, I love Portland and would love to go to OHSU, but realistically would not pay out of state tuition to go there over in-state tuition)
*any school with a reputation of cutthroat students was out

My final list ended up being 3 "safe" schools (in areas I have a STRONG connection to, which I made clear at the interview - 2 acceptances, one to tell me by the end of the month), 1 medium (no interview yet), and 4 "top 10" (3 interviews, 1 waitlist, no word from the fourth). If I were doing it again, I might apply to UPenn and UMich also (I think the education they offer would override my reservations with the locations), and maybe not applied to Dartmouth (I think the small class size and rural area combination would be hard for a young single thing who wants a social life, plus it is cold there). I am really amazed at how much more I know about what I want in a school now than I did when I started the process.
 
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