OFFICIAL: 2003 Wash U acceptances

[tBw]

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😉 yes, after I quoted him/her I did a search and found that in the Penn thread - which would be completely inconsistent with that they said here...at which point what can you say if someone says such contradictory stuff...so I wasn't going to comment further

Either way - I would defend anyones decision that a school wasn't right for *them* - but to spontaneously dog a school in a thread of people keen on it is...odd. Especially when it is such a good school and the criticisms weren't very well founded. I mean can you imagine going into the thread on Columbia or Penn or Cornell or Hopkins or Duke and going off about why their students and school weren't Harvard/Yale!?

 

[indianboy]

i have good mcats but didn't apply to washu because i didn't want to be in the environment that my friends there describe. i want a stimulating environment, not surrounded by boring gunners who only have academics to back themselves up

Tsk, tsk. Why do you make me do this. I don't even want to, honest🙁

Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury: Exhibit A

Exhibit B - The posts towards the bottom are rather telling.

You're doing a wonderful job of reinforcing the stereotype of a white, elitist, Princeton ugrad. Fortunately I know others, but these good people may not have the same good fortune.

Hope that Helps

P 'Takes one to know one' ShankOut

 

[saiyaman]

thank you indianboy! i knew i wasn't making that ish up. seriously, this premed gives all premeds a bad name and reinforces the stereotype: anal, annoying and stuck-up. i don't think i've read the terms "top ten" school with such entitlement so often before those threads. ugh...it's people like this that make me worry about med school. luckily, most of the people i've met on the interview trail and at the various schools seem remarkably chill! here's hoping it stays that way!

 

[Premed2003]

come on guys, you're being cruel

when I got my mcats back i was pissed and upset and ranted just like you guys do about everything - some of you guys whine that you get no interviews, some whine that they did badly at an interview, some whine that they don't get into a good school. so i whined about my mcat.

I was only responding to the previous posts about washu's emphasis on mcat. I didn't even bring up anything new. i'm just saying that they put a huge emphasis on mcats and nothing else and that is why they have a different type of class than other schools, and each school attracts a different group of people - the academics at washu, the leaders at harvard/yale, the urbanites at new york city schools, the laid back in california...stop being so mean to me.

This is why I wrote something at all. I should never have posted my opinion. i'll stick with studying milton from now on . no more posting from me

VienneseWaltz wrote: So, the pattern I'm seeing is: Early acceptance (that is, before March) requires either MCATs higher than their mean, or MCATs at their mean (or slightly below) with undergraduate work at an Ivy. Does anyone who has been accepted NOT fit this pattern?

 

[indianboy]

each school attracts a different group of people - the academics at washu, the leaders at harvard/yale, the urbanites at new york city schools, the laid back in california...stop being so mean to me.

You are a twit.

Hope that Helps.

P 'Disease Free since 2001' ShankOut

 

[owen_osh]

Not to pile on or anything; I'm just not sure what you mean. By "leadership" do you mean M.D.s who go on to have signifigant roles in developing public policy, or do you mean leaders in medical fields, or what? When I think of leadership in medicine, I think of someone who signifigantly advances the state of knowledge in his or her field. The presence of the nine or so Nobel prize winner plaques in the admissions lobby gave me the impression that Wash U cared about research leadership and had a history of producing it. All of which is kind of inspiring to me at least.

But what do you think leadership is? If you don't want to respond I would still like to hear what you think, maybe through PM.

 

[DrCarin]

Originally posted by the boy wonder
Premed2003

According to your post you did not make up your own mind based on truly examining what WashU has to offer (you did not even apply to WashU nor have you been there) but followed along with what some other people said! Leaders (with which you seem somewhat obsessed) lead, they do not follow. As you have not even visited WashU perhaps you should reserve such harsh judgment therefore for when you actually have something to base your opinion on other than second hand knowledge.

As for myself, I have spent 4 years at Harvard and worked at WashU for 4 years. I would go to WashU's medical school in a heartbeat.

whoa, i'm with the boy wonder. some people need to chill with their inferiority complexes due to their "low" MCAT and wash u's reputation for liking high MCAT scores.

like the boy wonder said, wash u is an amazing school. i would go there in a heartbeat if they let me in!! (i'm applying next year). i'm not sure where you are getting your info regarding their "leadership" issues either. my mentor is a wash u academic, with his MD and PhD both from wash u. he is one of the most brilliant people i've ever met, not to mention a wonderful mentor as well- goes out of his way to do absolutely everything for me. i'm sorry if these aren't the kind of people you want in medicine, but this IS what i look for. as for the med students, i know a significant number of them- and they are all bright students, obviously. i don't know what kind of leaders you expect them to be exactly. i know a 4th year who is leading at least a few ED research projects, and everyone has nothing but great things to say about him. and i could go on about how well-rounded the kids there are, but it's clearly unnecessary because premed2003 has obviously not even been to wash u. no school is right for everyone, and i would think that people would realize that- no reason to rip apart a school because it's not for you.

 

[Premed2003]

People have totally misunderstood my intentions

I was simply saying why WashU is not right for some people - and that the school only accepts high mcats and attracts people with the high mcats. this whole thing came about because the thread began with people saying that the only people who get in have high mcats. go back to page 1 of this thread. I totally agree with what you said DrCarin: not every school is right for every person. I was not ripping apart the school. I said exactly what you said

leadership in terms of public service/clinical - i think washu is more research based - again attracting a different type of person.

don't misunderstand what i am writing. i'm saying that washu only accepts the high mcats and doesn't look at other factors like harvard/yale and this is why their class composition is very different than other schools - it's the brilliant mcaters and not the other types of drs

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Wash U does not accept ONLY people with high MCATs (I know someone with low 30s about to graduate), but it does appear that the people accepted early in the game fit this description. We shall see what happens next month.

The thing premed2003 is overlooking is that people with high MCAT scores have more choices than other people. They CHOOSE Wash U. First year is pass/fail, which is not a good recipe for producing gunners who do nothing but study, as premed2003 claims. Wash U also gives out a LOT of financial aid, a considerable amount composed of grants. Their average MCAT scores are indicative of the calibre of people they are able to attract. You can't just decide to fill a class with high MCATs--the matriculants have to decide to enter that class as well.

premed2003, you are so full of crap ... I hope we don't wind up in the same place.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

bump

 

[KBCoch]

bumping.

 

[surge]

Originally posted by Premed2003
those who are at washu now didn't get into other top schools which is why they're there, but they don't seem too happy to be there..

OK, sorry, but that simply isn't true.

I met people at WashU who turned down Duke, Columbia and Yale (I'm only mentioning those I know for sure).

Moreover, I met SEVERAL people at Yale that didn't even get an interview at WashU. Now, sure, you can take this as an argument in favor of your theory of high MCAT scores, except these people had 35+.

There is a person with a 29 and a 32 in the MD/PhD program at WashU. So not only are they in, but they are being paid by WashU to be there.

And I don't think that I've done as much partying at any of my interviews as I did at WashU. That place is amazing.

 

[Premed2003]

As I said before, the schools look for different things
The people who were accepted to Columbia/Duke/Yale and WashU probably are leaders and have high MCATs

The people at Yale with no interview at WashU are leaders but WashU looks for different things. Maybe they had 35 MCAT, but isn't WashU's average a 36? MCAT therefore too low, and maybe those with below a 36 MCAT at WashU have a perfect 4.0 gpa from some undergrad school. Thus, stats too low for washu to look at the rest of the application

The schools that are similar in terms of choosing classes are
Harvard=Yale=Stanford=Cornell=they want unique
Hopkins=Columbia=UPenn=more well rounded + stats
WashU=UCSF=Duke= stats

what they look for is based on their curricula too
washu and duke and hopkins and upenn have those intense curricula than harvard or yale. harvard and yale stress extracurriculars during med school. they don't want people studying nonstop. each school has a different personality and looks for people with diferent personalities😎

 

[JimmyD]

This thread is embarassing.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

I think any attempt to pigeonhole schools according to unique vs. stats vs. whatever is useless. It's certainly not accurate.

Oh, and to add to surge's list--I know someone who turned down Harvard for Wash U.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by JimmyD
This thread is embarassing.

Eep! Hopefully by the end of this week it will get back to its original intentions--sharing news of and unravelling the mystery of Wash U acceptances ...

 

[DW]

umm, so all the Wash U bashing aside, has anyone called them recently and figure out when us sub 40 MCAT imbeciles might hear post interview? Towards the end of March? My interview wasnt too hot and my stats are a hair below their averages so I'm thinking a waitlist will be an accomplishment at this point......

 

[DW]

Originally posted by JimmyD
This thread is embarassing.

this thread reminds we why I wasnt a premed in college 🙄

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by DW
this thread reminds we why I wasnt a premed in college 🙄

OK ... why? (I wasn't a pre-med until the very end, so I'm curious.)

 

[moops]

a'ight... so hold up yo... what's the dilly with the meeting going down on the 5th.. is the the truth and how yall know about that?

 

[moops]

like- they really meetin' on the 5th? also- viet- what's yo status? how were your stats and whatnots

 

[DW]

Originally posted by VienneseWaltz
OK ... why? (I wasn't a pre-med until the very end, so I'm curious.)

just the elitism and snobbery exhibited by a certain poster on this thread is giving me Vietnam grade flashbacks of some of the gunners from undergrad. Amusing and slightly nauseating at the same time 😉

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by DW
just the elitism and snobbery exhibited by a certain poster on this thread is giving me Vietnam grade flashbacks of some of the gunners from undergrad. Amusing and slightly nauseating at the same time 😉

I noticed you post your acceptances in your signature. Seems like "gunner" thing to do IMHO.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

moops--calm down.

Someone from an earlier thread called the admissions office, who said they meet on the 5th to let in a max. of 30-40 applicants. People have been reporting acceptances around the 12th of the month.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by moops

in any case, viennesewaltz.. how do you know they meet on the 5th? are you pretty sure about this?

also, i know several undergrad students at wash u who have been getting acceptances throughout february..not sure how this corresponds to a "big meeting"..?

Just reporting what others have said. (I am not one to hassle admissions offices, but I am more than willing to use the information provided by those who do. 😛 ) Are they done interviewing? Maybe the adcom is more active now.

 

[DW]

Originally posted by VienneseWaltz
I noticed you post your acceptances in your signature. Seems like "gunner" thing to do IMHO.

o........k 😕 I dont know if this is some veiled attempt at an insult or what, but leaving my acceptances in my sig is just a way to inform people of my status (since I get asked a lot here). Myself, a gunner, man thats funny. Do you want me to include my rejections and waitlists as well?

seeing as though I've been known to take applying to medical school so seriously around here

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by DW
o........k 😕 I dont know if this is some veiled attempt at an insult or what, but leaving my acceptances in my sig is just a way to inform people of my status (since I get asked a lot here). Myself, a gunner, man thats funny. Do you want me to include my rejections and waitlists as well?

Hey, I don't care where you've been accepted or rejected. You make a point about not wanting to answer the same question repeatedly ... I'm just calling them as I see them. 😛 I don't know whether you're a gunner, and you probably wouldn't care about my opinion if I had one. And congratulations, BTW. 😀

 

[manicmaven]

Originally posted by DW
[B
seeing as though I've been known to take applying to medical school so seriously around here [/B]

This is hilarious. I've avoided that thread for months. Never even checked it out because I thought it was the obvious argument. So much BSing I've been missing out on.

Yet, in moments of weakness, I find myself reading endless tennis matches between Viennese Waltz and Blitzkrieg. Must prioritize.

 

[moops]

hey- sorry about my posting- i'm new to this thing.. anyways, is it ok to ask here what you guys know about slu? thanks, u guys on this post seem to know your thangs

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by manicmaven

Yet, in moments of weakness, I find myself reading endless tennis matches between Viennese Waltz and Blitzkrieg. Must prioritize.

Arrgh! That's what happens when two people of opposing views are online at the same time. THAT one got way out of hand ...

Anyway, I wasn't trying to start something here, just thought DW's response was funny considering his sig (I happen to agree with his assessment of the turn this thread took) ... people have told me I should go to law school, and I never was sure it was a compliment ...

 

[manicmaven]

I agreed with your position on the whole subject...just couldn't handle the blatent crap coming from some of the posters.

From what I've seen, DW seems to be one of the nicest, least pretentious posters out there...and has the stats to be an ass if he wanted.

And this is my last post in the washu thread, because I, on the other hand, only have the stats to be a lazy ass.😉

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by manicmaven
This is hilarious. I've avoided that thread for months. Never even checked it out because I thought it was the obvious argument. So much BSing I've been missing out on.

I avoided it, too, for the same reason--damn, that's a funny thread!

 

[moops]

how do i edit my profile so i can do private messaging? i think it'll help me to not put any threads up or something?

thanks

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by moops
how do i edit my profile so i can do private messaging? i think it'll help me to not put any threads up or something?

thanks

Go to User CP (top right of screen)
Go to Edit Options
Choose Enable Private Messaging

 

[siempre595]

Originally posted by Premed2003


The people at Yale with no interview at WashU are leaders but WashU looks for different things. Maybe they had 35 MCAT, but isn't WashU's average a 36? MCAT therefore too low, and maybe those with below a 36 MCAT at WashU have a perfect 4.0 gpa from some undergrad school. Thus, stats too low for washu to look at the rest of the application

The schools that are similar in terms of choosing classes are
Harvard=Yale=Stanford=Cornell=they want unique
Hopkins=Columbia=UPenn=more well rounded + stats
WashU=UCSF=Duke= stats

what they look for is based on their curricula too
washu and duke and hopkins and upenn have those intense curricula than harvard or yale. harvard and yale stress extracurriculars during med school. they don't want people studying nonstop. each school has a different personality and looks for people with diferent personalities😎

I REALLY have to disagree here. I have friends and co-workers at WashU, and I'm inclined to see them as also looking at unique people VERY well. In fact, all the students I know there had lower than a 36 on the mcat and are, what I would consider, amazing people in completely non-medical ways. We all know the numbers help, but I just don't think that a slightly lower mcat, gpa, or whatever is going to keep out some really cool people. In addition, the one person I can think of who I know applied last year with above a 36 actually got the waitlist there. I just don't think it's as simple as numbers at any school really. Of course maybe I'm just hoping that cause of my numbers.😛

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by Premed2003
Maybe they had 35 MCAT, but isn't WashU's average a 36? MCAT therefore too low

clearly you don't understand the term 'average'. You seem to be confusing it with the term 'minimum'. Maybe thats why you didn't get into WashU - after all, they have a math requirement 😉

 

[Premed2003]

Did you read the rest of my post? Obviously not!

I said the people below the 36 average have perfect GPAs to compensate.

Don't you dare bash me about math. I've taken loads of advanced math classes and I'm sure I know more about it than you. next time read my post.

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by Premed2003
I said the people below the 36 average have perfect GPAs to compensate

I did read your whole post, and yes, you did go on to say that; thus contradicting what you had said in the first half of the sentence. It's really not my fault if your arguments lack logical consistency even within a single sentence.

...maybe it wasn't the math, maybe it was the english pre-req you couldn't fulfill (go on tell me you know more english than me too!)

 

[fava]

this thread cracks me up...
seriously, i think all but one person on sdn realize that washu is an amazing school that anyone would be lucky to attend...

 

[tBw]

Originally posted by Premed2003
I've taken loads of advanced math classes and I'm sure I know more about it than you.

...and, from your posts, I'm sure you're sure you know more about everything than me.

 

[MGoBlue13]

Originally posted by Premed2003


Don't you dare bash me about math. I've taken loads of advanced math classes and I'm sure I know more about it than you. next time read my post.

Wow... and I'm sure that in all of your advanced linear algebra and topology courses that you've really elaborated on what an average is... I was under the impression that they taught that one in junior high mathematics.

Next time I have a question on how to add 1+1, I'll make sure I direct it to the chair of the mathematics department at UM, cause he obviously knows the answer better than the "lesser" professors.

 

[VienneseWaltz]

Originally posted by the boy wonder


...and, from your posts, I'm sure you're sure you know more about everything than me.

hee hee hee hee hee

 

[siempre595]

Originally posted by the boy wonder
I did read your whole post, and yes, you did go on to say that; thus contradicting what you had said in the first half of the sentence. It's really not my fault if your arguments lack logical consistency even within a single sentence.

...maybe it wasn't the math, maybe it was the english pre-req you couldn't fulfill (go on tell me you know more english than me too!)

I know more English than both of you.HAHAHA!
sorry, had to say it!

 

[relatively prime]

Originally posted by Premed2003

The schools that are similar in terms of choosing classes are
Harvard=Yale=Stanford=Cornell=they want unique
Hopkins=Columbia=UPenn=more well rounded + stats
WashU=UCSF=Duke= stats

LOL... So, let's see... I got an interview at Yale, but not Harvard, Stanford, or Cornell. I got an interview at UPenn but not Columbia or Hopkins... and I got interviews at Duke and WashU, but not UCSF (with only relatively modest stats). What does that tell you?!

I'll tell you what it tells you... Yale, UPenn, Duke and WashU are more similar than you think... they all use the same software with the same glitch that caused them to accidently invite me for an interview.

 

[Thewonderer]

Originally posted by Premed2003

The schools that are similar in terms of choosing classes are
Harvard=Yale=Stanford=Cornell=they want unique
Hopkins=Columbia=UPenn=more well rounded + stats
WashU=UCSF=Duke= stats

I have known, in the past 3-4 years, friends who have been accepted to and/or matriculated at Yale (your favorite), Cornell, Wash U, Univ. of Penn, Duke, Columbia, Mount Sinai, Case Western, Vanderbilt, Einstein, etc. Honestly, I don't see much of a difference between all of their acceptance policies. All these schools try to juggle and get students with the highest number possible. In fact, the THREE people I know who got into Yale have 3.95+ and 36/38/40 MCATs and all had laundry lists of EC's.

I have also worked with three residents who are Yale med grad and one attending who went to Yale for both college and med school. And, sorry, I just don't see how amazing they are (at least not more so than my friends who got into Wash U). One of them was actually quite incompetent while another 2 are anal as hell.

I guess you are really impressed with their brochure that sells "Yale System" to all the applicants. Nice to see someone so gullible.

 

[Premed2003]

Actually Yale is not my favorite. My favorite is Columbia or Cornell. I have gotten into Columbia and plan to go unless a nice letter from Cornell comes along. And well Harvard too.

If they're your friends why do you put them down like that? I imagine they weren't really your friends but just people you didn't really know. I would never say such bad things about my friends

This thread is very funny. I'm cracking myself up here because I'm purposely being a jerk and you guys are getting so mad at little old me, as if I know everything and you are trying to convince me otherwise

 

[KBCoch]

So... yea... about WashU...

Does anyone remember what the testing schedule was like there? I remember a student telling me something about having an exam and a day off to study and then another exam or something like that... Do they have a week of several separate exams every so often? How often would that be? Are the different classes integrated on any of the exams? I like the idea of having larger, less frequent exams, so I'm wondering how much WashU is like that.

I've posted this question on a WashU thread in the allopathic forum, but the med students are busy people, and replies here seem to be faster.

Thanks all. Much appreciated.

 

[JimmyD]

PreMed2003--

For the love of god, shut up. You're embarassing Princeton.

 

[jalfredprufrock]

Ha ha.

Well, for what it's worth, here's my opinion on Washington U. I interviewed there in October, and while I wasn't a fan of St. Louis (I'm an East Coast bigot), I loved the school. It's hard not to. It's unfortunate that certain ignorant and perhaps biased individuals stereotype Washington as a school that only accepts numbers. From what I gathered while there, there's no truth to that allegation at all. To me, that type of attitude betrays immaturity and bitterness, and unfortunately, I find it to be utterly typical of the relentlessly obssesive and insecure pre-medical students that the majority of us find so irritating. So what if Washington's undergraduate school isn't in the Ivy league? If you're really concerned about finding a school that is suited to your interests and personality, you shouldn't pay attention to the freaking athletic league the medical school's undergraduate college competes in. I sincerely hope that most of us aren't using that as our primary criterion.

Anyhow, to those of you still waiting to hear from WashU, I wish you luck. As you well know, you'd be hard pressed to find another school that combines a rigorous curriculum, incredible research, and unequaled facilities with its unique concern for its students.

 

[MD-2007-Gal]

Originally posted by JimmyD
PreMed2003--

For the love of god, shut up. You're embarassing Princeton.

Princeton doesn't matter. 😀 😛