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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
Arite folks! I'm taking the plunge tomorrow! Wish me luck!
Quick question guys, this may have been asked before but my reading comprehension sucks (I got a 1 on verbal). Can I use time when I am sitting at the computer to write down equations and junk? Before I start the test, tutorial or anything, can I just take 10 mins to breathe and write down some info that I might forget in the heat of the battle? Thanks for the info.
I was wondering if anyone who took the test found the inflammation/cell injury stuff to be more detailed/involved than in first aid? DIT reccomends flipping thought the 1st 6 chapters of robbins and looking at the different images/pathways. Do you guys think that would have helped? Alternatively I have notes I took from reading robbins during 2nd year... would that be worth going through? (it's about 25 pages of notes on the first 6 chapters.)
thanks
I would say FA was enough for most stuff including inflammation/cell injury. That was far from difficult on my test (physio on the other hand was a different story)
damn, what was so bad about physio? was it like uworld/nbme's?
I was wondering if anyone who took the test found the inflammation/cell injury stuff to be more detailed/involved than in first aid? DIT reccomends flipping thought the 1st 6 chapters of robbins and looking at the different images/pathways. Do you guys think that would have helped? Alternatively I have notes I took from reading robbins during 2nd year... would that be worth going through? (it's about 25 pages of notes on the first 6 chapters.)
thanks
The only hard physio I had was the up/down arrow questions. They seemed hard because one of the lab values would be something you didn't think about being affected before, but if you reason it out you should be fine.
I did DIT and took my test last Wed the 15th. I don't think this would be worth your time, I can't think of a single question that this would have made the difference on (assuming you know your FA and UW in these areas). There were a few Jenkins question predictions that were way off - this subject and child development - neither had a single question and I'm glad I didn't devote any more time to them.
Quick question guys, this may have been asked before but my reading comprehension sucks (I got a 1 on verbal). Can I use time when I am sitting at the computer to write down equations and junk? Before I start the test, tutorial or anything, can I just take 10 mins to breathe and write down some info that I might forget in the heat of the battle? Thanks for the info.
I did DIT and took my test last Wed the 15th. I don't think this would be worth your time, I can't think of a single question that this would have made the difference on (assuming you know your FA and UW in these areas). There were a few Jenkins question predictions that were way off - this subject and child development - neither had a single question and I'm glad I didn't devote any more time to them.
Just took the exam today. ..... Relatively speaking though I had a lot of hearing questions, 4-5 at least.
We have the exact UWSA scores and my NBME score was similar. How many questions did you think you missed after the test? (rough estimate)
Just took the exam today. I would have to say that Im not sure how I did. I would be surprised if I didnt pass, but not sure if that means I got a 210 or a 250. During my study period I really appreciated the individuals who gave a full write up about the exam, as I felt it helped calm my anxiety and made me realize I actual was studying the right stuff. Sorry if it is long, but I tried to be as complete as I could be.
I took the exam at noon. I recommend this to everyone if you can. It allowed me to get up at a normal time, have breakfast, pack a lunch, review some high yield material and do some questions to warm up (Of the 5 questions I did this morning from World I got 4 of them on the exam).
The testing center was pretty laid back, everyone is pretty nice and makes it easy to check in. I was told by other students to use the tutorial time to get your head phones set up and to regurgitate as much of the high yield formulas or memory tricks that I could. This was probably a good idea just because it gave me reassurance and something to fall back on in case I didnt remember something, but it may have only helped me on 1 or 2 questions.
I slammed a Starbucks Mocha before I went in for the exam, and couple that with the nerves I sailed through the first 3 blocks. I will say that the first block was tough, especially as time ran down. I think it is just a psychological issue, knowing that once that clock hits zero or when you hit submit any mistake you make will be a permanent mark on your CV. I was planning on doing 2 blocks and then taking a break. I was feeling really focused and doing well in terms of the questions so I decided to do another block. This was one of the best things I could do. It enabled me enough break time to take a break between each of my last blocks. By the time block 6 and 7 came around, I really needed to clear the air, and walk around and was lucky I had the extra time.
I took most of the time for each section. I have a problem of going fast through sections and made a conscientious effort to slow down. If a question was taking me a long time to figure out I guessed, marked it and came back. I would say that I probably marked 15 questions each block. Most of these were things I needed to check and make sure I didnt make any careless reading mistakes.
As far as the test, mine was pretty balanced. I dont think there was any specific trend. There werent too many behavioral science questions which was disappointing as I am usually good at those and studied those a lot. I think the one thing I didnt like was that the test was almost too clinical. There were a lot of things where I needed to be able to recognize diseases and treatment protocols, third and fourth line therapies. I had a lot of clinical experience before med school and our school emphasizes early clinical experience, and that is the only way I was able to get some of those questions. I couldnt tell which questions were experimental as they all seemed to be appropriate difficulty. I might not have gotten a question right, but I am convinced that is only because I didnt spend enough time looking at the minute details of a disease in FA.
Subjects:
Anatomy: Not very difficult, was expecting a lot more. Most of it was pretty basic. I just used FA and what I remembered from my first year anatomy class.
Biochem: Not a lot of metabolism stuff, most of it was Molecular/Cell. I was disappointed with the lack of genetics on the exam, as this was traditionally a strong suit with me on UW.
Micro: Studied it quite a lot in my last 3 days leading up to the exam, overall it wasnt as high yield as I thought it would be. Most of them were normal bugs, a few random ones that I would pass over thinking there was no way on a 322 question exam they would think that was important.
Embryology: This was ridiculous, I maybe only had 10 questions, but it was very random details. I dont know what I could have done better short of getting a major in Embryology in college. I couldnt even tell someone how to study this.
Immunology: There was a lot of immune on my test, half of it was really easy, other half was extremely difficult. Probably had 25-30 questions on it.
Path: In general I thought this was the most difficult/annoying part of the exam. There were a lot of pictures on my exam. I did Webpath and Goljan and FA and never saw the pictures they presented. I was able to narrow it down based on the question stem, but nothing to the point that I could say with 100% certainty what a question was.
Pharmacology: Kept hearing that ANS was really high yield, I wish I would have had more questions on it, I might have had 5 total. Other pharm stuff was okay, but it got a little annoying when they would ask 3rd line treatment for random, non FA diseases.
Cardio: 4-5 heart sounds where were pretty easy, but the answer choices were phrased differently making it difficult to figure out what they were going for. Other than that I had maybe 2 path and 2 pathophys questions. Not a lot on the exam.
Endocrine: Mostly pathophys, not a lot of pharm or path.
GI: Very little path phys or pharm, mostly micro with an occasional anatomy question.
Heme/Onc: A few questions where you would need to treat a patient based on a diagnosis with only lab values. 1 cancer drug MOA and it was a gimme.
MSK: Was hoping to get a lot of these nerve injury questions to help raise my score. I was not so lucky, there were very few path question, and 2-3 nerve lesions.
Neurology: I was worried because I only went through it twice in FA and got confused with brainstem lesions. I didnt have anything nearly that difficult, most of it was simply stroke/TIA between the ACA and MCA. Relatively speaking though I had a lot of hearing questions, 4-5 at least.
Psychiatry: Easy points to get with minimal studying
Renal: Questions werent that difficult, but had a lot of them overall. Mostly pathphys.
Repro: Dont know what to make of this one, other than saying Repro is Repro. Some questions were extremely easy stuff you would know even if you hadnt gone to med school, other stuff was just random.
Resp: Asthma medications and maybe one lung cancer and PNA. No phys or serious path. Very interesting that they would have so few questions on respiratory.
Overall, the test was not as bad as I was expecting. It definitely wasnt easy, but I was definitely building it up bigger in my head. Its so much of a crap shoot. I had classmates take the test with me today who said they had to guess on 35-40 questions in a block and others who hit the jackpot and got a test suited to their strengths. I brought FA with me to review in between breaks but never ended up using it. There isnt any way to cram for this test. I didnt even know where to look to check out answers I may have missed. Study hard, utilize the full break time, and try to calm down as much as possible while taking the exam. Good luck.
The best thing to do is use your tutorial to write down equations. This way you don't lose any time from the actual test. Even though I wrote down a bunch of equations from memory, I don't think it really helped me that much anyways. I might of had 2 questions in total that I was able to answer with my notes. It does help calm nerves knowing you are able to look at the info if you need it but depending on your test you may not need it.
Oh, and I'm sure a lot of people are curious about anatomy. Nothing out of the ordinary for me. Nothing crazy unusual. However, word of advice, if you have HY gross anatomy, I would look over clinical procedures *BIG HINT*. An upperclassmen told me this exactly advice and I listened...and I'm glad...big time.
When you say clinical procedures...is that a certain section of the book or is it randomly dispersed throughout? I just skimmed over the book and I didn't notice any 'procedures' but I guess I wasn't sure where to look.
They are dispersed throughout. For example, in the chapter on heart anatomy, they describe the two locations for performing a pericardiocentesis.
I was thinking about quickly jotting down that qiss qiq siq sqs pneumonic and the Flat Champ because everyone keeps saying how many Qs they had on second messenger pathways. Was this true for your exam?
What is the Flat Champ one? I searched for it on this thread, couldn't find it.
What is the Flat Champ one? I searched for it on this thread, couldn't find it.
I was thinking about quickly jotting down that qiss qiq siq sqs pneumonic and the Flat Champ because everyone keeps saying how many Qs they had on second messenger pathways. Was this true for your exam?
I just closed FA for the last time! Good luck everyone taking it tomorrow.![]()
Lets go kill it together! I'm going too!
good luck! I assume we'll see each other around here afterwards? lol
I wish everyone the best of luck with their exams if you haven't taken it, and also, to those awaiting their scores. I apologize for any typos or redundancies.
Peter North
Thanks so much for your uber-helpful write-up...I'm sure you rocked it!
PS I love your work...
Up and at em! Didn't sleep too well last night, probably around 6 hours only but o well I think I can function. Good luck to everyone taking it today.[/QUO
Best of luck you will rock it![]()
I've benefited from reading other people's experiences on this thread, so I will also contribute to those willing to read.
First of all I wanted to say, Step 1 is totally doable. It also is goal dependent, a goal of 220 requires different prep than a goal of 270+. That being said, I feel that you are doing a disservice if you don't go into this thing wanting to do your best. That was my mind set, so whatever I get I'll be happy since I really did try and put everything into it.
I took my test June 18th in the morning, and for my test it was really micro, pharm, molecular bio and consistently had anatomy questions every block.
My practice test history:
UWSA1: 248
UWSA2: 250
NBME11: 238
NBME12: 233
(Not in that order)
For my preparation I used:
Goljan Audio, in the car, in the gym, whenever I didn't feel like reading or doing questions
Goljan Path (read it here and there during the year, not consistently, but finished 1 whole pass during my study period)
DIT (IMHO, I liked it, and it definitely helped me get organized, give me a system, and helped me get a good chunk of questions right on my actual exam)
USMLE World (I went through slowly in 5 months for my first pass, annotating my copy of FA, and then going over my missed questions), I started off at 50% in Jan. and by the time the study period started I could get anywhere from 70% to 90% on unused question blocks.
First Aid Q&A (finished all the questions and reviewed the answers in FA for confusing ones)
First Aid (obviously)
I honestly think that my test was more in line with the difficulty of UWSA than any of the NBMEs, I did have some tricky questions, but I think overall the test was very fair. Out of all 7 blocks, I feel that I had 2 blocks of medium/moderate difficulty, and then the rest were actually not that bad for me... (we'll see when I get my score back whether I am still singing the same song)
I used all my break time, and that really helped me out. I'm the kind of guy that really only goes through questions once, but doing UWorld and NBME tests I found that I made a lot of stupid mistakes that could've been prevented, and so I went over really quickly all my questions for each block once to make sure I was confident, and spent some extra time reviewing questions that I was less sure on.
I've confirmed that I've missed about 8 questions on the actual thing, and there were mayber 15+ where I had a good idea, but wasn't 100% sure.
I also wanted to say that this test is a THINKING test. Sure, there are questions where you have to just know the treatment, etc. but the reason why people on SDN are saying that FA "isn't enough" is because FA doesn't teach you to think critically. It's good for the memorization of facts and regurgitation and maybe reviewing, but if you don't understand the concepts, there's no substitution for actual learning. That being said, if you actually took the time to understand your course material and use FA to review the little factoids that come up frequently I would say that's 95% of the exam.
There is no substitution for NOT knowing/understanding the material. Do you have to honors your MS1 MS2 classes? No I wouldn't say so. But you do need to have the concepts down pat in your mind. I find that understanding the material will give you the ability to manipulate the facts you DID memorize into a more amenable format for answering step 1 questions. It will also give you the ability to answer those questions that "aren't in first aid." True, a lot of the answers aren't in first aid verbatim, but with the use of 2-3 facts and maybe a bit of anatomy, there's no reason that you can't take an educated guess, or pick an answer that you are somewhat confident is the best answer.
Goljan sums it up the best when he says: "mechanisms, mechanisms, mechanisms" is what the boards are all about. We're all here because we can memorize, that's the easy part.
Anyways, good luck to you all, and don't be discouraged, I wasn't on an AOA level of performance my first two years, but really just went for understanding and learning the material, more than memorizing some minutiae that some research prof. put on slide #12 that he put on the test. My advice for first and second years that wanna destroy the exam is to LEARN the material, if you know how things work, it will stay with you longer and benefit you better in the long term, rather than memorizing and dumping the facts as soon as the test is over.
I will update this post as I get my score and hope that my preparation was enough. Again good luck, this is totally doable, and if I can walk out of the exam feeling good about it, then you all can as well. Seriously. 👍
I love this forum so I have to post my experience. Nobody comment on the grammar because I have had about 5 martinis and 3 shots so I'm wasted but my dedication to this forum forces me to still post so I must.
I gotta say guys the test is not bad. I hope that I did well but I felt it was fairly "easy" in the sense that we have been preparing for it for so long. I think FA + Uworld is more than enough. I even think UWorld is too much because it makes you think the world is trying to trick you.
The highest I ever got on a practice test was a 242 on NBME 7 I think so I am not sure how I did on the real thing. There were probably 15 qs that FA could not prepare me for on the entire test out of 322 so I don't think that is bad. The rest you could reason out or pick up from FA or UWorld.
I saw people studying before the test form FA...dont' do that. What is wrong with you people. It's an 8 hour test. Chill out and relax, don't study. Come on man. Why would you do that.
My test was Immuno, Cardio, and Renal heavy. Here is the breakdown for you guys.
Renal: Did someone unleash all the possible kidney diseases on me? Just understand the two pages of the nephro versus nephri and you should be good I feel. Also understand the ATN versus DIC, the simple stuff and there is no way you won't kill this section.
Histo: Was there anything there except one question?
Micro: Thank the lords of the Step 1 this was one of my strong points and man did I get 30 Qs on this. The common stuff with the common presentations, it is so doable.
Pharm: Easy stuff with the common side effects for most drugs. Just know FA. One drug in there that I had never heard of but the rest were in FA. Don't sweat it.
Pulm: Pretty easy stuff. You can do this if you have a basic understanding of this stuff. Just study FA and you are set. Know a little anatomy too.
Neuro: Was so easy that I am pissed I spent 1 full day on HY Neuro. Really I am floored by the stuff I saw. You could figure this out if you looked at FA.
Genetics: WTF??? Everyone was mating with their Mom and Dad I swear. I had no clue on this crap. This was the worst for me.
Behavioral: Was so easy that I was thanking the pregnant teens across the U.S. for it. It is doable. Maybe 1-2 Qs that make you think but the rest are easy.
Pshcy: Easy! These points you should bank. If you don't, I will find you in your dreams and do things to you that you won't like.
Pathphys: My booty hurts, that's how rough it was. I don't even know how to prepare. There were some that were ridiculous.
Repro: You know it or you don't. Some easy give me stuff you expect. Other stuff has more path phys involved. The usual presentation of the common stuff will be there that is in first aid. Don't know how else you can prepare for it.
Hepatic stuff: Know alcoholics and know them well. Also know the anatomy of the liver. It might be important.
HIV: Know the drugs and know the infections that can happen.
Musculo: Know innervations and the common stuff that can happen...ex: ALS.
Endo: Some rought Qs but most easy stuff. The usual typical stuff. You know what I mean. You can't go wrong with it. Why does the little girl have a penis kind of stuff.
GI: Pretty Easy from what I remember. This hormone does what in the stomach? Oh you take this medication to do what?
Cardio: Heart sounds were a joke. You can figure them out. The Qs were rough around some of the pathology but most of the stuff you can figure it out. Nothing more to add to this.
Biochem: Vitamin Def, Common Enzymes for pathways. So easy for the amount I studied.
Embryo: I had maybe 3 Qs, 2 from FA...1 from who knows where.
Anatomy: You can do this, it is easy. Maybe 2 Qs out of 10 that I didn't have a clue on but even those I reasoned out and I'm trashed!
Heme: Dear God, could they have made this any easier. I felt like I was going to cream myself when I saw the qs they had...the usual stuff, boy eating paint, guy eating him. The usual stuff. You can do this. The cancers are there too. You got this. If you don't get this, I will show up in your dreams again. Cancer!
Immuno: A little easier than I expected but there were a few Qs that were smoking me. But the usual cytokines and receptors kind of stuff. Nothing major.
Did I miss anything? Please let me know. I love you guys. You guys are the best. This test is doable. Don't lose hope. You got this. FA+UWorld is gold. Trust me, I used every resource under the sun. I could cite FA pages as I did the qs.
Oooh by the way, I had about 5 qs from the practice NBMEs. They do show up...it's impossible for them not to.
I hate complement def stuff. Can't wait for the scores but not sweating it too much.
I love this forum so I have to post my experience. Nobody comment on the grammar because I have had about 5 martinis and 3 shots so I'm wasted but my dedication to this forum forces me to still post so I must.
I'm a US citizen who is going to school in Sweden (summer between MS2-MS3), this summer I'm taking the USMLE in the states and I'm here all summer to study. Thing is, its just me. If it wasn't for you guys I would be all alone in this. I just have no sense of how to gauge my performance or get a feel for how I'm doing, if I'm on the right track or not.
I am having a hard time staying motivated and focused even though I just started my designated study period a week ago. I've been doing Kaplan videos during the spring though and Qbank, also just started UW today. I don't know how to feel about my scores or anything. Just a little lost I guess 🙂 The only people I hear about are the gunners on SDN so who even knows what kind of score is actually reasonable to aim for? I want to do residency here in GS, so I guess I'm aiming pretty high. Especially with everyone on here saying I'm doomed since I went to school abroad
Sorry to be Debbie Downer, I just need to get a little bit of a boost.
Should I do an NBME? Which one should I start with?
Here is how I've been doing on Qbank:
I have been getting around 70% on Kaplan trending upwards to 75%
On my first couple Uworld blocks I am avg 73%
What kind of a score can I be realistically aiming for?
My exam is on July 31st and I still have a lot to cover. (Anatomy, pharm and neuro are just gaping black holes right now haha)