Official 2014 Step 1 Experiences and Scores Thread

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Two ways to go about this. You could take 15 or 16 to simulate the real test or you could save 15 or 16 for later and go from early to late. It really depends on how you plan to use the NBMEs as a whole. They're all relatively predictive.

Thanks for the reply. I'll be giving my exam in august. I'd like to keep 15 and 16 for later then. ..After my first nbme, I would like to do a nbme every 2 weeks to monitor my progress...So I'll go in order then i guess...?
 
Thanks for the reply. I'll be giving my exam in august. I'd like to keep 15 and 16 for later then. ..After my first nbme, I would like to do a nbme every 2 weeks to monitor my progress...So I'll go in order then i guess...?

Here in the United States, we take exams. 😉😉😉
 
And now for a shot of reality:

During MS-1 and MS-2 I have been a slightly above average student, consistently getting the mean plus one half of a standard deviation.
I had 6 weeks of dedicated prep. I studied about 5 days a week during this period. Each day was 8 hours, 7am-3pm.
I used Pathoma once, doing a chapter a day.
I read FA once, doing about a chapter a day. That micro chapter took 2 days though.
I did uWorld once through, annotating into First Aid. Got a 62%.
I went through uWorld a second time, only doing incorrects. Got maybe halfway through that project.
I tried DIT and loved it, but only did 3 days worth - it simply took too much time per day and I had to abandon it.

Once a week I did either a school-required practice exam or an NBME exam. On the school exams I again got slightly above the class average, which was slightly above the national average.

If you don't know, NBME exams are scaled to a mean of 500, SD of 100.
NBME 13 (5 weeks out): 470 (roughly a 220?)
NBME 15 (2 weeks out): 490 (roughly a 225?)
NBME 16 (1 week out): 510 (roughly a 230?)

I spent the last week before the exam going over flash cards for all 450 rapid associations listed at the very very end of First Aid.

Real exam: 231 (national mean 227, national SD 22).

I feel my score is both earned and deserved. I put in an average amount of work both in medical school and during dedicated prep time. Apparently I know as much as the typical student going into 3rd year, which is far and away above the minimum requirements.

If you are an average student lurking in this thread, don't worry. There are a zillion more med students just like you, and we'll all be fine.

See you on rotations!
 
wow kirby! great scores! didn't realize your test was so soon and you don't seem sterssed at all -- good luck!

to all: what is everyone using for brainstem slices? i just took a quick peek at HY neuro and didn't see any.
 
wow kirby! great scores! didn't realize your test was so soon and you don't seem sterssed at all -- good luck!

to all: what is everyone using for brainstem slices? i just took a quick peek at HY neuro and didn't see any.

This was recommended to me during anatomy. We needed to know very, very basic brain stem sections though so I don't know if it will be useful for what you need to know during MS2 neuroanatomy/step 1.

http://isc.temple.edu/neuroanatomy/lab/atlas/cmmd/
 
I have a question for those of you who have used DIT (I did a thorough search but couldn't find an exact answer...)

I know the general opinion is 'you're paying someone to read FA to you' so with that said, I really just need to get through FA once so that I can have a general overview. I have no problems doing questions, finished one pass of UW, annotating FA with any relevant objectives that weren't there, so I have seen most of FA in bits and pieces and in a disordered fashion, but have not done a semi-thorough front to back read of it, which is why I am looking to those who did this using DIT:

-Did you follow the order that DIT uses? Or did you use the FA order?
-DIT 2013 follows their workbook, but the few sections that I have watched made it seen like they didn't follow FA as closely as I've heard they do (i.e. it didn't seem like they were just reading FA, but more like they were answering the questions in their workbook)

Can anyone offer guidance?

Thank you!


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I have a question for those of you who have used DIT (I did a thorough search but couldn't find an exact answer...)

I know the general opinion is 'you're paying someone to read FA to you' so with that said, I really just need to get through FA once so that I can have a general overview. I have no problems doing questions, finished one pass of UW, annotating FA with any relevant objectives that weren't there, so I have seen most of FA in bits and pieces and in a disordered fashion, but have not done a semi-thorough front to back read of it, which is why I am looking to those who did this using DIT:

-Did you follow the order that DIT uses? Or did you use the FA order?
-DIT 2013 follows their workbook, but the few sections that I have watched made it seen like they didn't follow FA as closely as I've heard they do (i.e. it didn't seem like they were just reading FA, but more like they were answering the questions in their workbook)

Can anyone offer guidance?

Thank you!


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It depends on how long you have till you're exam. DIT is a good tool to get you through first aid. Especially if you have become familiar with the FA material and now have a better grasp on it, but it can take some time. I think the 2013 ed has somewhere around 205 videos, each at about 20min, so do the math. I'd say 95% of the course is tailored around following FA. there are times he will get off into material not mentioned in FA, i usually listen and write stuff down i think might be important. I think the best way to utilize the program is have your FA out and follow as he goes thru the video. Also have the workbook aside and fill in the quizzes, they are easy recall Q's, but will help with remembering some of the random details in FA. There are also some HY tidbits he will add that are not mentioned in FA. Make sure you annotate them in you're FA because it will help with answering some of those random world questions that 30-40% ppl get right (ex = which enzyme predominately functions in the nucleolar region of the nucleus, RNA pol 1, RNA pol 2, and etc. This and a handful of other questions i wouldn't have gotten right). You can do the videos in any order you want. The first time around i broke DIT up into organs systems and did it like that. but if you want a cover to cover review of FA, i would just follow the DIT order. hope this helps.
 
It depends on how long you have till you're exam. DIT is a good tool to get you through first aid. Especially if you have become familiar with the FA material and now have a better grasp on it, but it can take some time. I think the 2013 ed has somewhere around 205 videos, each at about 20min, so do the math. I'd say 95% of the course is tailored around following FA. there are times he will get off into material not mentioned in FA, i usually listen and write stuff down i think might be important. I think the best way to utilize the program is have your FA out and follow as he goes thru the video. Also have the workbook aside and fill in the quizzes, they are easy recall Q's, but will help with remembering some of the random details in FA. There are also some HY tidbits he will add that are not mentioned in FA. Make sure you annotate them in you're FA because it will help with answering some of those random world questions that 30-40% ppl get right (ex = which enzyme predominately functions in the nucleolar region of the nucleus, RNA pol 1, RNA pol 2, and etc. This and a handful of other questions i wouldn't have gotten right). You can do the videos in any order you want. The first time around i broke DIT up into organs systems and did it like that. but if you want a cover to cover review of FA, i would just follow the DIT order. hope this helps.

Thanks! That's definitely helps!
I'm taking the exam the third week of July, so I have about 9 weeks.

As for filling in the workbook, did you just do it for the beginning/end of session quizzes? Or the whole thing?
In some sections, the questions are already answered, while in others they're not, doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason.



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"As for filling in the workbook, did you just do it for the beginning/end of session quizzes? Or the whole thing?
In some sections, the questions are already answered, while in others they're not, doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason."

Fill in the warm-up and end of session quizzes. There are some disciplines in FA where DIT refers to their workbook. (Ex. Nephron Physiology) they take a lil extra time to explain what happens in each area of the nephron. If the questions are answered just follow along and understand the concept, or fill them in if they are blank (but there's not a lot of these).If you're not familiar with a topic in FA, pause the video do a quick read then go thru it a 2nd time with the video. That always seemed to work for me.
 
Took my exam yesterday. About as difficult as NBME 16. Nothing crazy out of left field. A lot of anatomy though, which I just guessed and quickly moved on as I barely studied anatomy. The anatomy was random and only 1 question on brachial plexus. I'd always read the final 2 sentences first, which saved a lot of time. One question had a massive stem, but the question was "you decide to give drug X, what is the mechanism of drug x?". Answered it without reading the stem. I'll post more once I get my scores back.
 
"As for filling in the workbook, did you just do it for the beginning/end of session quizzes? Or the whole thing?
In some sections, the questions are already answered, while in others they're not, doesn't seem to have any rhyme or reason."

Fill in the warm-up and end of session quizzes. There are some disciplines in FA where DIT refers to their workbook. (Ex. Nephron Physiology) they take a lil extra time to explain what happens in each area of the nephron. If the questions are answered just follow along and understand the concept, or fill them in if they are blank (but there's not a lot of these).If you're not familiar with a topic in FA, pause the video do a quick read then go thru it a 2nd time with the video. That always seemed to work for me.

That's really helpful, thanks a lot for taking the time to share.



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HELP! ok So here is my problem. I took NBME 7 today and got 180's and I'm freaked out. My test is in 5 weeks. I have done 1.5 weeks of studying but I've been all over the place using FA, Kaplan videos (which I ditched cuz they will take to long), pathoma, the anatomy book.... the list goes on and on. Also trying to do Rx and Uworld.
When I got my score, I felt totally disheartened. I came to this thread which always cheers me up and when I see the good improvement others have made, I am hopeful (sorta) that I too can do well.

My question is: If I dedicated 100% of my time only to memorizing FA and UWorld what kind of score could I get in 5 weeks?

Thanks for everyone's previous advice and posts. They truly inspire.
 
HELP! ok So here is my problem. I took NBME 7 today and got 180's and I'm freaked out. My test is in 5 weeks. I have done 1.5 weeks of studying but I've been all over the place using FA, Kaplan videos (which I ditched cuz they will take to long), pathoma, the anatomy book.... the list goes on and on. Also trying to do Rx and Uworld.
When I got my score, I felt totally disheartened. I came to this thread which always cheers me up and when I see the good improvement others have made, I am hopeful (sorta) that I too can do well.

My question is: If I dedicated 100% of my time only to memorizing FA and UWorld what kind of score could I get in 5 weeks?

Thanks for everyone's previous advice and posts. They truly inspire.

You could get anything from a 180 to a 260. Evaluate yourself weekly with NBMEs - that's the only real way to gauge your progress.
 
HELP! ok So here is my problem. I took NBME 7 today and got 180's and I'm freaked out. My test is in 5 weeks. I have done 1.5 weeks of studying but I've been all over the place using FA, Kaplan videos (which I ditched cuz they will take to long), pathoma, the anatomy book.... the list goes on and on. Also trying to do Rx and Uworld.
When I got my score, I felt totally disheartened. I came to this thread which always cheers me up and when I see the good improvement others have made, I am hopeful (sorta) that I too can do well.

My question is: If I dedicated 100% of my time only to memorizing FA and UWorld what kind of score could I get in 5 weeks?

Thanks for everyone's previous advice and posts. They truly inspire.

My advice: keep it simple. There is a canon in boards studying--> FA, Uworld, pathoma. Learn this stuff. If you have time, venture out. Simplicity is undervalued in this process. Many of the questions are pretty simple if you know the basics.
 
Despite knowing what is being asked, I think I have gotten every single question possible wrong dealing with identification of a structure in an electron micrograph -_-

Yes. those dreaded. electron micrographs asking you to identify A bands. I will undoubtedly poop my pantaloons if i get one on the real deal.
 
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Pardon some very basic questions here...I have seen discussions over time here about Pathoma options (but I forget what the "best wisdom" was)...what is best advice on Pathoma: latest text? audio tapes? videos? People learn best differently...our daughter, an MS2, tends to like texts best over, say, audios while driving, videos, or whatever.

As I recall, Pathoma seems to be preferred to Goljan for Step 1 prep, while the Goljan text (which also covers Step 2 topics, and can be more in depth period, and covers topics other than pathology) can be an excellent general reference text for medical school, and even residency.


At her school, they have a year of clinicals/rotations before taking the step 1, which clearly works well since they were # 1 (class average) last year and are always at/near the top.

Will welcome any thoughts from actual users. Don't be bashful...fire away! 🙂 And good luck! :luck:
 
Despite knowing what is being asked, I think I have gotten every single question possible wrong dealing with identification of a structure in an electron micrograph -_-

EMs were pounded into us during MS1.. hopefully it'll stick!

Pardon some very basic questions here...I have seen discussions over time here about Pathoma options (but I forget what the "best wisdom" was)...what is best advice on Pathoma: latest text? audio tapes? videos? People learn best differently...our daughter, an MS2, tends to like texts best over, say, audios while driving, videos, or whatever.

As I recall, Pathoma seems to be preferred to Goljan for Step 1 prep, while the Goljan text (which also covers Step 2 topics, and can be more in depth period, and covers topics other than pathology) can be an excellent general reference text for medical school, and even residency.


At her school, they have a year of clinicals/rotations before taking the step 1, which clearly works well since they were # 1 (class average) last year and are always at/near the top.

Will welcome any thoughts from actual users. Don't be bashful...fire away! 🙂 And good luck! :luck:

#1 at what?
 
Pardon some very basic questions here...I have seen discussions over time here about Pathoma options (but I forget what the "best wisdom" was)...what is best advice on Pathoma: latest text? audio tapes? videos? People learn best differently...our daughter, an MS2, tends to like texts best over, say, audios while driving, videos, or whatever.

As I recall, Pathoma seems to be preferred to Goljan for Step 1 prep, while the Goljan text (which also covers Step 2 topics, and can be more in depth period, and covers topics other than pathology) can be an excellent general reference text for medical school, and even residency.


At her school, they have a year of clinicals/rotations before taking the step 1, which clearly works well since they were # 1 (class average) last year and are always at/near the top.

Will welcome any thoughts from actual users. Don't be bashful...fire away! 🙂 And good luck! :luck:

Wait, is this a parent looking for step study tips for their daughter?
She's in medical school, try and keep the helicopter off at a longer distance...
 
Hey everyone, I lurked a fair amount and read all of your strategies and results while I was studying, so I figured I should share what I did. Took it about a month ago.


Schedule:

I gave myself approximately six weeks of dedicated study time. The first two weeks I did a chapter of FA each day, then did review questions related to the section I studied as well as random review blocks. I was using Rx during this time for questions.

School-administered NBME (4 weeks out): 202

I was not happy with that score - I felt that after spending two weeks studying FA, on top of my entire year of using FA while learning systems, I should do better than barely passing. I spent the third week finishing Rx and starting Kaplan’s Qbank. I spent most of my time doing questions.

NBME 7 (3 weeks out): 217

This was obviously better than a 202, but not where I wanted to be. For the next two weeks, I finished Kaplan and did UWorld. I spent almost my entire day doing questions as quickly as I could. When I say that, I mean I skimmed for buzzwords and picked the answer based on those, if possible. If I got a question right, I didn’t review it afterwards, unless I was unsure while choosing. If it was wrong, I looked it up in FA, unless it wasn’t there, in which case I annotated the fact in. I also spent a couple hours each night learning topics I didn’t master the first time around, like Biochem, Physiology, Micro, Behavioral Sciences, Pharmacology…honestly, pretty much anything that wasn’t Path.

For my last week I had the same schedule each day. UWSA or NBME in the morning, then study the previously mentioned topics / redo questions specifically on those topics in the afternoon.

UWSA 1: 256
UWSA 2: 256
NBME 11: 239
NBME 12: 247
NBME 13: 251
NBME 15: 249
NBME 16: 247
Free 150: 93%

Step 1: 247

I was fairly happy with that score. Going off my NBME scores, I wanted to break 250, but I honestly can’t complain about what I got.


Some general thoughts:

To those of you in your first year reading ahead about all this, please do yourselves a favor and learn everything well the first time around. I didn’t know much about biochemistry, very little about physiology, had ignored microbiology when we first learned it…you get the picture. Like I said above, I knew pathology well, but that was it. Sure I knew some things about the other subjects, but not enough. And I had to spend more time than I would have liked learning all that during my dedicated study period. But, perhaps this can inspire some of you that are too late to make that change. I usually scored just below average on our school exams, and although I had to spend time learning things too late, my Step 1 score was above average.

I used Pathoma and Goljan throughout the year and annotated them into FA as I went along. Pathoma was good. Goljan’s audio was great, but the book was iffy. He was definitely useful for relating physiology to certain diseases, but he also includes a lot of extra diseases that aren’t in FA. I had annotated them in, but I can’t remember them appearing anywhere except as wrong answers. Overall, judging by the NBMEs and my actual test, I’d say it’s much better to know everything in FA and know it very well, especially in regards to the biochemistry and physiological changes in disease states, than to spend your time trying to memorize obscure diseases.

I feel like the majority opinion on UWSAs was that they overpredicted (although I did read posts that said otherwise), and they overpredicted by 9 points on my score. My last week of NBMEs averaged out to 246.6, which compares very well to my actual score of 247.


How I felt about the test:

Didn’t feel like I did as well as I scored. The ethics questions had very ambiguous answers, the anatomy questions were too obscure, and there were several “follow-up test” questions on vague patient presentations. Add that in to a decent amount of “wtf” questions, and I could see why many people say that no one feels good after they finish.

It didn’t feel like UWorld to me. It felt like an NBME where the test makers decided to turn the difficulty up a notch or two. I can remember one question that was straight from UWorld, but that’s it. I’m sure there were other questions from UWorld, the NBMEs, or the free 150, but the fact that they didn’t stand out means they were easier questions that I had seen many times from multiple sources. They’re the gimme questions, like what nerve is injured in a mastectomy (not an actual question on my test).

While doing several NBMEs, I found I was good at very accurately estimating how many questions I got wrong on each test. Assuming that radar was still intact, I got twice as many wrong on the actual Step and received approximately the same score. Is the curve on the real test more lenient? Perhaps this is evidence to that, but who knows - it may have just been due to my specific set of questions. Take some NBMEs and trust your average score on those, as it seems to have worked out for many others as well as myself. For what it’s worth, although I scored about the same as the NBMEs I took, my score profile looked different. When getting upper 240s on an NBME, almost all of the bars in the performance profile were on the right side with asterisks. When getting in the upper 240s on the Step, they were still on the right, but only a few had asterisks, and most were more middly-located.


Wow, sorry for the giant wall of text, guys. I hope this helped some people. I feel like I covered everything pretty well, but I’m happy to answer any questions. Also, don't forget to call your moms today!
 
EMs were pounded into us during MS1.. hopefully it'll stick!

Was it just class slides including the EM images or was there a specific source you guys used for the images? I'm going to add that to something I need to look at during dedicated study quickly. It's obviously not the most high yield, but I'll be pissed at myself for not attempting to get a better grip of them if one of those images comes up on my exam.
 
Pardon some very basic questions here...I have seen discussions over time here about Pathoma options (but I forget what the "best wisdom" was)...what is best advice on Pathoma: latest text? audio tapes? videos? People learn best differently...our daughter, an MS2, tends to like texts best over, say, audios while driving, videos, or whatever.

As I recall, Pathoma seems to be preferred to Goljan for Step 1 prep, while the Goljan text (which also covers Step 2 topics, and can be more in depth period, and covers topics other than pathology) can be an excellent general reference text for medical school, and even residency.


At her school, they have a year of clinicals/rotations before taking the step 1, which clearly works well since they were # 1 (class average) last year and are always at/near the top.

Will welcome any thoughts from actual users. Don't be bashful...fire away! 🙂 And good luck! :luck:

What are you trying to say ?
 
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"Wait, is this a parent looking for step study tips for their daughter?
She's in medical school, try and keep the helicopter off at a longer distance..."

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Sardonic and cutesy...perhaps when your grammar and syntax improve, we can debate a bit. You have certainly added value to this discussion.

Actually, there are various dedicated, identified parents occasionally posting on SDN...some of us actually financially support its efforts and agenda.

The feedback I requested is apropos to this thread.

Engaged parents are usually a good thing...it was actually I who first learned about BCM's value here (which led to her applying there), which was # 1 in Step 1 scoring average at 244 last year...also top 5 in average acceptance criteria (MCAT/GPA averages)

And hey, FWIW Missorleans, we even lived in N'awlins...it was great.

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What are you trying to say?


Simply, in what version/form did you find Step 1 prep via Pathoma most helpful/fulfilling? The text? audio? videos? why?
 
Simply, in what version/form did you find Step 1 prep via Pathoma most helpful/fulfilling? The text? audio? videos? why?

Pathoma is a video series with an accompanying text -- there is no audio-only version. I've only used the video series and feel that the text I have is redundant and unnecessary. The more detailed explanations in the videos in conversation-style thought process walkthroughs are a good alternative to a text, especially when there aren't many comparable video resources for Pathology. The general consensus is that doing only the videos offers just as much as just the text.

If your daughter learns best through reading, the Pathoma videos will inevitably still be a valuable resource to use in addition to her class textbooks and other board prep Pathology texts.
 
Pardon some very basic questions here...I have seen discussions over time here about Pathoma options (but I forget what the "best wisdom" was)...what is best advice on Pathoma: latest text? audio tapes? videos? People learn best differently...our daughter, an MS2, tends to like texts best over, say, audios while driving, videos, or whatever.

As I recall, Pathoma seems to be preferred to Goljan for Step 1 prep, while the Goljan text (which also covers Step 2 topics, and can be more in depth period, and covers topics other than pathology) can be an excellent general reference text for medical school, and even residency.


At her school, they have a year of clinicals/rotations before taking the step 1, which clearly works well since they were # 1 (class average) last year and are always at/near the top.

Will welcome any thoughts from actual users. Don't be bashful...fire away! 🙂 And good luck! :luck:

Just...stop. She's an adult. You're not doing her a favor by coddling her.
 
re:
"Wait, is this a parent looking for step study tips for their daughter?
She's in medical school, try and keep the helicopter off at a longer distance..."

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Sardonic and cutesy...perhaps when your grammar and syntax improve, we can debate a bit. You have certainly added value to this discussion.

Actually, there are various dedicated, identified parents occasionally posting on SDN...some of us actually financially support its efforts and agenda.

The feedback I requested is apropos to this thread.

Engaged parents are usually a good thing...it was actually I who first learned about BCM's value here (which led to her applying there), which was # 1 in Step 1 scoring average at 244 last year...also top 5 in average acceptance criteria (MCAT/GPA averages)

And hey, FWIW Missorleans, we even lived in N'awlins...it was great.
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What are you trying to say?


Simply, in what version/form did you find Step 1 prep via Pathoma most helpful/fulfilling? The text? audio? videos? why?

Average step 1 of 244? Lol.
 
Was it just class slides including the EM images or was there a specific source you guys used for the images? I'm going to add that to something I need to look at during dedicated study quickly. It's obviously not the most high yield, but I'll be pissed at myself for not attempting to get a better grip of them if one of those images comes up on my exam.
I was in a similar situation, always knowing what concept they were testing, but failing to correctly identify the structure in question. I found that simply googling labeled EMs after you get a question wrong is more than enough to learn the material if you look at it a few times. There's a fairly short list of EMs that are considered high yield based on the questions I've gone through, a few examples being renal pathology, every cellular organelle, and sarcomeres in muscle (I'm sure others can add more).

While you're right that EM identification isn't necessarily the most high yield concept to study, it is one that most people seem to have a fair grasp on (based on % answering correctly), and one that is incredibly easy to master in exchange for the time spent learning it. Use any EM question you get wrong as an opportunity to learn about every item in the image that is testable and how they could make that item testable, and you'll thank yourself later when those questions become second-nature.
 
re:
"Wait, is this a parent looking for step study tips for their daughter?
She's in medical school, try and keep the helicopter off at a longer distance..."

******************

Sardonic and cutesy...perhaps when your grammar and syntax improve, we can debate a bit. You have certainly added value to this discussion.

Actually, there are various dedicated, identified parents occasionally posting on SDN...some of us actually financially support its efforts and agenda.

The feedback I requested is apropos to this thread.

Engaged parents are usually a good thing...it was actually I who first learned about BCM's value here (which led to her applying there), which was # 1 in Step 1 scoring average at 244 last year...also top 5 in average acceptance criteria (MCAT/GPA averages)

And hey, FWIW Missorleans, we even lived in N'awlins...it was great.
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What are you trying to say?


Simply, in what version/form did you find Step 1 prep via Pathoma most helpful/fulfilling? The text? audio? videos? why?

My parents wrote a novel version of first aid for me, which fully encompassed pathoma/goljan/brs all in one. I personally wouldn't have accepted anything less while attending my top 8 state school.
 
re:
"Wait, is this a parent looking for step study tips for their daughter?
She's in medical school, try and keep the helicopter off at a longer distance..."

******************

Sardonic and cutesy...perhaps when your grammar and syntax improve, we can debate a bit. You have certainly added value to this discussion.

Actually, there are various dedicated, identified parents occasionally posting on SDN...some of us actually financially support its efforts and agenda.

The feedback I requested is apropos to this thread.

Engaged parents are usually a good thing...it was actually I who first learned about BCM's value here (which led to her applying there), which was # 1 in Step 1 scoring average at 244 last year...also top 5 in average acceptance criteria (MCAT/GPA averages)

And hey, FWIW Missorleans, we even lived in N'awlins...it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

re:
What are you trying to say?


Simply, in what version/form did you find Step 1 prep via Pathoma most helpful/fulfilling? The text? audio? videos? why?

Are you seriously epeening the matriculant statistics of your daughter's medical school? Plsgo.
 
Part of my study plan involves doing 3 blocks of 46 uworld questions a day. I've pretty much got a sizable chunk of that Qbank memorized. I'm hoping that'll help out, especially since I still have four weeks to go. Only takes a few hours a day--spending the rest of the day on pharm flash cards, first aid, and goljan.

Really, really hoping the real thing is a clone of uworld >_>;
 
Hey everyone, I lurked a fair amount and read all of your strategies and results while I was studying, so I figured I should share what I did. Took it about a month ago.


Schedule:

I gave myself approximately six weeks of dedicated study time. The first two weeks I did a chapter of FA each day, then did review questions related to the section I studied as well as random review blocks. I was using Rx during this time for questions.

School-administered NBME (4 weeks out): 202

I was not happy with that score - I felt that after spending two weeks studying FA, on top of my entire year of using FA while learning systems, I should do better than barely passing. I spent the third week finishing Rx and starting Kaplan’s Qbank. I spent most of my time doing questions.

NBME 7 (3 weeks out): 217

This was obviously better than a 202, but not where I wanted to be. For the next two weeks, I finished Kaplan and did UWorld. I spent almost my entire day doing questions as quickly as I could. When I say that, I mean I skimmed for buzzwords and picked the answer based on those, if possible. If I got a question right, I didn’t review it afterwards, unless I was unsure while choosing. If it was wrong, I looked it up in FA, unless it wasn’t there, in which case I annotated the fact in. I also spent a couple hours each night learning topics I didn’t master the first time around, like Biochem, Physiology, Micro, Behavioral Sciences, Pharmacology…honestly, pretty much anything that wasn’t Path.

For my last week I had the same schedule each day. UWSA or NBME in the morning, then study the previously mentioned topics / redo questions specifically on those topics in the afternoon.

UWSA 1: 256
UWSA 2: 256
NBME 11: 239
NBME 12: 247
NBME 13: 251
NBME 15: 249
NBME 16: 247
Free 150: 93%

Step 1: 247

I was fairly happy with that score. Going off my NBME scores, I wanted to break 250, but I honestly can’t complain about what I got.


Some general thoughts:

To those of you in your first year reading ahead about all this, please do yourselves a favor and learn everything well the first time around. I didn’t know much about biochemistry, very little about physiology, had ignored microbiology when we first learned it…you get the picture. Like I said above, I knew pathology well, but that was it. Sure I knew some things about the other subjects, but not enough. And I had to spend more time than I would have liked learning all that during my dedicated study period. But, perhaps this can inspire some of you that are too late to make that change. I usually scored just below average on our school exams, and although I had to spend time learning things too late, my Step 1 score was above average.

I used Pathoma and Goljan throughout the year and annotated them into FA as I went along. Pathoma was good. Goljan’s audio was great, but the book was iffy. He was definitely useful for relating physiology to certain diseases, but he also includes a lot of extra diseases that aren’t in FA. I had annotated them in, but I can’t remember them appearing anywhere except as wrong answers. Overall, judging by the NBMEs and my actual test, I’d say it’s much better to know everything in FA and know it very well, especially in regards to the biochemistry and physiological changes in disease states, than to spend your time trying to memorize obscure diseases.

I feel like the majority opinion on UWSAs was that they overpredicted (although I did read posts that said otherwise), and they overpredicted by 9 points on my score. My last week of NBMEs averaged out to 246.6, which compares very well to my actual score of 247.


How I felt about the test:

Didn’t feel like I did as well as I scored. The ethics questions had very ambiguous answers, the anatomy questions were too obscure, and there were several “follow-up test” questions on vague patient presentations. Add that in to a decent amount of “wtf” questions, and I could see why many people say that no one feels good after they finish.

It didn’t feel like UWorld to me. It felt like an NBME where the test makers decided to turn the difficulty up a notch or two. I can remember one question that was straight from UWorld, but that’s it. I’m sure there were other questions from UWorld, the NBMEs, or the free 150, but the fact that they didn’t stand out means they were easier questions that I had seen many times from multiple sources. They’re the gimme questions, like what nerve is injured in a mastectomy (not an actual question on my test).

While doing several NBMEs, I found I was good at very accurately estimating how many questions I got wrong on each test. Assuming that radar was still intact, I got twice as many wrong on the actual Step and received approximately the same score. Is the curve on the real test more lenient? Perhaps this is evidence to that, but who knows - it may have just been due to my specific set of questions. Take some NBMEs and trust your average score on those, as it seems to have worked out for many others as well as myself. For what it’s worth, although I scored about the same as the NBMEs I took, my score profile looked different. When getting upper 240s on an NBME, almost all of the bars in the performance profile were on the right side with asterisks. When getting in the upper 240s on the Step, they were still on the right, but only a few had asterisks, and most were more middly-located.


Wow, sorry for the giant wall of text, guys. I hope this helped some people. I feel like I covered everything pretty well, but I’m happy to answer any questions. Also, don't forget to call your moms today!

Congrats on the huge improvement!
 
Things are going well!

4/13/2014 - NBME 16 - 215
4/19/2014 - NBME 7 - 234
4/20/2014 - UWSA1 - 245
4/28/2014 - NBME 11 - 226
5/4/2014 - NBME 12 - 237
5/11/2014 - NBME 13 - 247

Not here for advice. Just here to be a non-neurotic voice saying that I don't need a 260 and that I will be thrilled if I end up with a 225 on May 29th (I was originally scheduled for June 9). I now wish I had moved it up farther.

Also, according to NBME keys, there were zero immuno questions on this one, which I found kind of odd. I'm sure someone's commented on this before, though.
 
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Can anyone who has taken the exam/has experience with NBME exams comment on the importance of knowing the individual CD4 count disease thresholds-such as below 200, below 100, and below 50? I had some of these qs on Rx but can't remember one since. Obviously below 200 is pneumocystis, JC, and crypto, but has anyone run into a question where you had to know, for example, that Toxo shows up only after CD4 dips below 100?
 
Can anyone who has taken the exam/has experience with NBME exams comment on the importance of knowing the individual CD4 count disease thresholds-such as below 200, below 100, and below 50? I had some of these qs on Rx but can't remember one since. Obviously below 200 is pneumocystis, JC, and crypto, but has anyone run into a question where you had to know, for example, that Toxo shows up only after CD4 dips below 100?

On the NBMEs, you generally have to make some inferences, but just having a general idea is enough. Knowing that 200 is when PCP comes in (and above that is Strep pneumo) is definitely important. I've also definitely seen questions about myco avium @ 50.
 
On the NBMEs, you generally have to make some inferences, but just having a general idea is enough. Knowing that 200 is when PCP comes in (and above that is Strep pneumo) is definitely important. I've also definitely seen questions about myco avium @ 50.
Solid. I'll put some time into recognizing them then. Thanks for the help.
 
Can anyone who has taken the exam/has experience with NBME exams comment on the importance of knowing the individual CD4 count disease thresholds-such as below 200, below 100, and below 50? I had some of these qs on Rx but can't remember one since. Obviously below 200 is pneumocystis, JC, and crypto, but has anyone run into a question where you had to know, for example, that Toxo shows up only after CD4 dips below 100?

I had a question in uw that was super straight forward about a guy with a T cell count of 50 developing spiral shaped red lesions in the colon. Kaposi sarcoma tends to show up with a lot of 50 T cell count high viral load questions. The toxo questions are usually more about being able to identify those stupid ring lesions on the brain scan.
 
Any tips to get through UWorld blocks faster? It's taking me 2.75-3 hours to get through a block of 46. I cut it down to not annotating unless I missed the question or I saw something in the explanation that I thought was really important (clarifying a misconception that I had). I'm still reading the explanations for EVERY question on tutor mode by section.

Are you all taking the time to read the explanations for every question, or just the ones you missed?
 
Any tips to get through UWorld blocks faster? It's taking me 2.75-3 hours to get through a block of 46. I cut it down to not annotating unless I missed the question or I saw something in the explanation that I thought was really important (clarifying a misconception that I had). I'm still reading the explanations for EVERY question on tutor mode by section.

Are you all taking the time to read the explanations for every question, or just the ones you missed?

Near the beginning, you need that time. Later on, when you know the material better, it'll take you less time because you'll just go, "Yeah, yeah, I already know lithium causes epstein's anomaly and not neural tube defects."

The second time through I've been speeding up a lot. It generally takes me 25-30 minutes to do a timed block, and while I take a look at every question afterward, I only read the entire description if it's a question I missed or one that I feel I guessed on.
 
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