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We need a new thread for the test this August! Hopefully they will sticky this!
It's been awhile since you posted, so I'm not sure if this will be useful or not. I used MKSAP audio, which is time-consuming and expensive, but I felt like it gave a good foundation for answering the questions on the day of the exam. I would say that the focus is more on understanding medicine and its subspecialties as opposed to "teaching to the exam," but I found this approach preferable. I thought the exam was difficult, but I did pass comfortably. One other note: If you're going to use something like an audio review, you're probably better off starting it sooner rather than later. If you're closing in on your test date, then you'd probably be better off doing MedStudy or another question bank. Hope that helps.I'm looking for suggestions on what to listen to in the car. I have the MKSAP books and the MedStudy videos but honestly, I think the time I spend in the car can be the most productive since I don't have a choice but to sit and listen.
I'll probably buy anything second hand, so I don't want cost to be a factor. Has anyone heard of any good audio lectures to study for the ABIM? What have you heard about the MKSAP audio?
Need help. I have read these past threads in here from ABIM. I am a recent IM residency grad that failed the IM boards twice. I went to Awesome review for the 2010 exam and for the 2011 exam. I have been a poor test taker ever since Med school, but excelled in College. I always know that I had to put in more time than other individuals in my field for these exams but given that I had personal matters in 2010 and in 2011 including starting a fellowship right before my first sitting for my ABIM boards in 2010 plus a wedding in that month prior and a failed engagement plus having started a job right before my second sitting for my boards in 2011, which did not 100% honor my request for time off prior to my exam and even requested that I work two days prior to my board, heavily destroyed my studying time.
Now I feel that I have an inferiority complex in front of my collegues and feel that my boss at my current job will possibly ask me to leave my job given the lack of board certification, all the while I am trying to study for the exam again. This is too bad as I feel like it is a dream job but the feeling of studying for the boards again robs the positive feeling that I get from my job. I feel like I should have postponed the exam for two years and taken a low key part time job nearby but that affects medical knowledge negatively anyway. All of this needlessly adds to the anxiety.
I plan on getting Medstudy books/flashcards/questions. I already have awesome review books and will start using awesome review once I finish Board Basics 2. My plan is to get through awesome review 4 times and do all of MKSAP 15 three times. Sounds herculean but I have to get this done. All free weekends and days off are spent studying. Will put my social life on hold again until August (after the test).
Need advice.
Let me say this, if you haven't start studying by now you need to start.
No...if you haven't started studying by now, you need to cancel and take it next year.
No...if you haven't started studying by now, you need to cancel and take it next year.
is anyone reading board basic 2?
Totally freaking out. My wife just finished residency and she is averaging 86% on MKSAP. I am taking the test again this year and I am averaging 75%. I just hope I pass...
As many times as you want.I just re-took ABIM today after failing my first attempt last year. It didn't feel great, to be honest, even after studying for months. Still the same esoteric questions.
Anyway, I think I'm about to join the movement to boycott ABIM, except a job I may want in the future requires one to be board certified. So although I have to wait until November to get the results, I am wondering about the big picture for the future.
Does anyone know
1) How many times can you take the exam?
ABIM addressed this last year. The answer is here but to paraphrase...you can take it 3 straight years, if you fail all 3, you have to take a year off before you take it again. At that point, if you haven't taken every board review course on the planet, your 4th failure is just you being stubborn and stupid.2) Can you just keep taking it every year? i.e. if you fail it 3 times in a row, do you have to wait awhile to retake?
3) Are the jobs out there that require you to be "board certified" any better than the ones that don't?
I don't appreciate your reply. I am neither stupid nor stubborn. I have been valedictorian, AOA, at top national med school and residency program... I have taken 2 review courses and I'm the top physician at my hospital. Something about this test has been a huge obstacle to me, and your comments are thoughtless and cruel.As many times as you want.
ABIM addressed this last year. The answer is here but to paraphrase...you can take it 3 straight years, if you fail all 3, you have to take a year off before you take it again. At that point, if you haven't taken every board review course on the planet, your 4th failure is just you being stubborn and stupid.
Generally yes. There are always exceptions but "beggars can't be choosers" is true on both sides of the equation.
I don't appreciate your reply. I am neither stupid nor stubborn. I have been valedictorian, AOA, at top national med school and residency program... I have taken 2 review courses and I'm the top physician at my hospital. Something about this test has been a huge obstacle to me, and your comments are thoughtless and cruel.
Whoa, whoa whoa?! WTF Clarence? Let's go back and break down your initial post and my reply?
1. Q: "How many times can I take the exam?" A: "As many times as you want."
2. Q: "Is there a limit on the number of times in a row you can take it?" A: Yes. Here's a handy link mo********er.
3. Q: "Are jobs that require BC "better" than those that don't? A: Probably. If they don't require BC, there's probably a reason for it.
Where in there did I insult you? I get it, the test is hard. I left it assuming I failed. I didn't...barely. I understand that you're freaking out but that's no reason to be a total douchewad.
i agree. keep your head up. several people feel worse after their second attempt, only to find out they passed. just wait it out until november. what did you do differently to prepare?
i failed last year, and this year i've done every question bank i can get a hold of... mayo (500 Q), kaplan (500 Q), John's Hopkins BR Qs (1100), MSKAP (1100), MedStudy (500), and UW Qbank (600). It's over 4000 Qs, and I've written down most concepts I got wrong. UW Qbank was tuff, with average test scores around 53%, mine was 57% overall. my MKSAP was 83% overall. Did Awesome Review course, etc. hoping for the best this year.
anyone else do USMLE World? Do you mind posting your scores?
I think he disagreed with your comment "beggars are not choosers". I read some of your posts and saw you used this comment in some of your posts. This comment is inappropriate and should not be used, particularly form a highly educated and professional person. Hope you understand.
Y'all need to get the **** over yourselves. The...End.
One thing I will say is that this time there were a whole lot of short ones where either you know it or not (maybe 10-15 out of every 60). Some had no clinical case. Some had a case of 3 sentences or less. Because of this, feel free to simply skip some of the long ones if you are not in the mood then at the end of the exam, it will take you to the review page and just click "review all incomplete". Doing it this way, you can relax and spend 5 min on a long question (at the end) knowing you have plenty of time. You can also consider skipping all audio questions until the end.
interesting test-taking strategy. thanks for the tip! i'm used to such a linear, orderly way of answering questions-- although i frequently go in reverse order (i.e. start at the last item and work backwards) just to shake things up, if i feel like i'm in a rut.