Official Harvard Extension 2011 Thread

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Depends. Will you be working in addition to taking courses? Are you planning on taking the pre-reqs or upper level or a combination thereof?

Well i've already taken phys I and phys II and calculus. But those are basically the only science classes ive taken. I won't be working but I plan on volunteering and doing research. I would like to take 3 classes but I don't want to regret it later. How many and which classes would you advise me to take?
 
Well i've already taken phys I and phys II and calculus. But those are basically the only science classes ive taken. I won't be working but I plan on volunteering and doing research. I would like to take 3 classes but I don't want to regret it later. How many and which classes would you advise me to take?

Historically, Chem and Orgo are on the same night, so you wouldn't be able to take both. Given that, you should consider Chem and Bio. Will your research basically be full time (i.e. 40 hours)? If so, Chem and Bio may be enough. If you do decide to take an upper level science course in addition, make sure it doesn't have a heavy lab component. Chem and Bio are pretty time consuming. As for specific courses, hard to make a suggestion until the listings come out in July.

FYI: A lot of people take physics/chem year 1 and bio/orgo year 2.
 
Historically, Chem and Orgo are on the same night, so you wouldn't be able to take both. Given that, you should consider Chem and Bio. Will your research basically be full time (i.e. 40 hours)? If so, Chem and Bio may be enough. If you do decide to take an upper level science course in addition, make sure it doesn't have a heavy lab component. Chem and Bio are pretty time consuming. As for specific courses, hard to make a suggestion until the listings come out in July.

FYI: A lot of people take physics/chem year 1 and bio/orgo year 2.


Thanks soo much for your help! It was really useful! Do you know how I could sign up for volunteering and research?
 
Thanks soo much for your help! It was really useful! Do you know how I could sign up for volunteering and research?

I volunteer at MGH (see my previous post in this thread from last week or so). With that said, Boston and the surrounding areas have a ton of volunteer opportunities - large, medium, small hospitals, rehabs, clinics, etc... Look at the websites. Try to make sure the location is convenient for you. You don't want it to become a burden. I don't do research, so I can't offer any advice there except to check the larger hospital websites and maybe some of the pharm companies. Personally, I would look through this year's HES thread as well as the previous years and see who did research and pm them for suggestions.

Good luck.
 
This is very helpful! I didn't realize that acceptance to the HCP doesn't also mean acceptance as a diploma candidate, but when I called HES today they said that if I can verify that none of my undergrad classes count as pre-reqs, I can be enrolled as a diploma candidate and that will allow my loans to be deferred for a year, so maybe that information might be helpful to anyone else who's doing all 8 prereqs in the HCP. Thanks again.



The in-school deferment IS automatic if you are attending an institution which participates in the National Student Clearinghouse (as Harvard Extension does.) Whether it's automatic comes down to the educational institution, not the lender/loan servicer. No, Harvard doesn't require its regular degree students to get a new deferment every semester, because they're enrolled in programs with specific requirements and specific anticipated graduation dates. You can claim that your anticipated end date is "May 2012" but there's nothing to back that up. You're not in a program which requires X credit hours which will take X number of years at full-time enrollment, or anything like that. You may be planning to keep taking courses at Harvard through May 2012, but there's no official enrollment which proves that... you're not matriculated into a program with defined requirements, as I said. And, the add/drop requirement also makes sense - otherwise, you could just register for a course to try to take advantage of an in-school deferment, and then drop. Harvard needs to send "final enrollment" information, NOT preliminary information.

Yes, this is all a big pain. Like I said, at HES, you do NOT have to have them fill out the deferment form. It really is all automatic. The problem is that it can take a long time so it doesn't seem like it's ever going to happen. If you were in a 4-year degree program, a couple months or so to get it in place wouldn't really matter much because once it's in place it's in place until your expected graduation date (or beyond, depending on whether there's a grace period.) But when you're just registering semester by semester in a program with no specific duration (which is the case with HES even if you're in HCP), 2-3 months can be your entire "in-school" time, since your expected end date is just the end of that current semester. Case in point - my classes started January 24 this term. It was my first term when I was half-time, and therefore eligible for an in-school deferment. (I have another masters degree, from a foreign university and am therefore familiar with the deferment, in general, but that school did not participate in the Clearinghouse, so I had to fill out a form.) I contacted my two loan servicers, and they assured me that they would automatically receive my enrollment information, but each said it can take something like 60 days for the deferment to be put in place, AFTER they get the enrollment information. So, they offered to set up forebearances for me until that time.

Well, I kept checking my loan status and noticed that in March, one set of loans (through Nelnet) was in deferment, rather than the original forebearance. I contacted my other servicer (ACS) to find out why that loan wasn't deferred, and they said that yes, they'd received the information, but it will take up to 60 days for that to be "processed." (Why isn't it immediate since it's done automatically without the borrower's request?) In any case, I started school January 24 and it took THREE MONTHS for my loans to be deferred. I never had to fill out a form and it was all done based on the National Student Clearinghouse information, BUT it took forever. By that point, I had less than a month of school left, anyway, and my loan payments were to resume on the first due date after this semester ended. So, the deferment didn't really help much.

I think the proper thing for me would have been to just trust that while it would take a while, the deferment WOULD happen automatically, and just not pay my loans in the interim. When I was in my other masters program, I thought that my loans would automatically be deferred. After a few months of non-payment I realized they wouldn't be and I filled out the form and submitted it, they retroactively removed any delinquent statuses. I'm not sure what happened to any interest that had accrued, though. I hope it was retroactively removed. But I know for sure that if I use a forebearance to fill in the gap, interest DOES accrue... which is why I think that one loan servicer, in particular, just sat on the enrollment information. It makes them money.

I don't know if filling out the form is really any faster or not. Maybe, but they still have to wait until after the "final enrollment" information is available to verify your enrollment. So either way, the in-school deferment for a program such as the non-degree HES programs isn't all that helpful. Every term, you're only going to get a short window of deferred payments (maybe as few as ONE month.)

But old crumb - Just to add... the forebearance shouldn't hurt your credit. I've had several forebearances now, and my credit is fine. The only way it can possibly hurt your credit is that the interest accrues and is added to the principal, therefore increasing your debt. But even with a high student loan debt, the amount any accrued interest will increase the principal is quite small when you're talking about, say, a three-month forebearance. (And BTW, interest will also accrue during an in-school deferment on the non-subsidized portion of a Stafford loan.) I might worry in general about increasing my debt, but not because it will affect my credit rating. And student loan debt (at least from goverment loans) is one of the "better" forms of debt. Revolving consumer debt, like credit cards, is the worst. Revolving debt is what plays into the "debt to credit ratio" which has such an impact on your credit score.
 
I am totally lost here and could use some help. I have my FAFSA in before the deadline, my move date planned, my acceptance letter in hand (with that funny note from Dr. Fixsen about how small the packet is), but I am completely clueless about supplemental loans.

Basically I need something without a co-signer (I have "Good" credit but my mother does not) and for enough to cover living expenses for 2 years. That being said, I do plan to maintain a part-time job while in Beantown, but I am unsure of how to calculate anything beyond rent, cell phone, and potential utilities. I really have no idea where to start.

I should say this as well: I've never taken out a single loan...ever. While I'm proud I put myself through undergrad, I cannot wrap my head around how these things work.

I've done internet research but am still just as confused as before. Should I wait to see if HES gives me any loans for classes? After that, how much should I take out? $20K? $40K? From a bank or the government? Can I defer payment until after med school? I'm assuming I take out more for med school?

Any help/advice/links is appreciated. Thanks guys.
 
So I talked to financial aid and they said the max we could get from FAFSA is around $5k, and that definitely isn't enough to cover living expenses. They told me to take out private loans from banks. I talked to my bank and they said to apply online for student loans. I'm guessing $20k should be more than enough. You can always return the money that you don't use that way you're not accruing interest.
 
Hi Jennet,

I haven't heard back from Student Financial Services yet either. I was under the impression that you can take out up to $5k in subsidized and $7.5k in unsubsidized stafford loans if you go to class full time. Part timers might get less.

I'm hoping to do the program in one year. So far I have budgeted just over $30,000 for the year. This would include moving costs (me driving cross country and sleeping in my car), tuition, books, rent, food, car payment, car insurance, gas, utilities, cell phone bills, bus pass, and the mandatory health insurance required by the state of MA. This is a bare bones budget with cheap rent, cheapest insurance possible, cheap/minimum auto insurance, and cheapo vegetarian fare. Take away the car payment and car insurance you can prob shave off $3,000. So $27,000 is how much it would cost, for me, to do the program in one year. Honestly, I think your costs would probably be around $30k even with the two year plan. You may spend a little more on the extra housing, but you wouldn't have to pay the extra $3k for summer Gen Chem.

I thought about doing the HES program last year but didn't have enough savings and didin't have loans lined up. I considered doing the 2 year plan and get a research job and bone up on ECs, but an opportunity came up to live with my brother for the year and save on rent/tuition so I opted for that instead.

I'm happy with my decision, but it sounds like a lot of people are doing the 2 year research/clinical job + school route. In fact most success stories that I've read on HES threads involved people doing 2 year route with extensive paid research experience. So, that could be an option for you. You'd save on insurance costs ($260/month, unless you get a job or you are a part timer enrolling in Commonwealth Care), get tuition reimbursement (if you work for one of the Harvard affiliated hospitals), and pay your own way through school.
 
Hey Jennet,

I also have never taken out a loan but I do plan to borrow from Sallie Mae for my postbac. I am not in the HCP so I am not eligible for federal aid.
Regarding getting a loan without a co-signer- when I initially independently applied for the private loan I was denied and told that I needed to re-apply with a co-signer and that "I shouldn't worry because most students need to apply with a co-signer." I hope you have better luck but I'd try to stick with only federal loans if I were you- better rates and no interest for the subsidized loans. But the Sallie Mae smart option student loan does offer deferment as long as you are enrolled in school, even med school. Gotta think about the glide/application year- either you continue to take classes or you start repayment.

Just giving you a heads up about applying without a co-signer. My parents are also reluctant to co-sign for me, they don't want me getting into debt but I feel bad for taking from my blue-collar parents that put me through undergrad.

According to the lady I spoke to on the phone I could "borrow as much as I
want." You can definitely live as comfortably as you want but I don't recommend you living too mtv-crib comfortable unless you have a neuro/spine fellowship lined up already 😉 I've read enough horror stories about physicians drowning in debt to not take the financial aspects of this journey into strong consideration.

But again, I suggest you exhaust your options for federal aid and that I would also opt to stick with federal aid if it was an option for me.

Good luck!
 
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Now I'm getting confused. If I am accepted to the HCP, but NOT a diploma student:

A.) Am I still eligible for federal aid?
B.) Can I defer my undergrad student loans?
 
Now I'm getting confused. If I am accepted to the HCP, but NOT a diploma student:

A.) Am I still eligible for federal aid?
B.) Can I defer my undergrad student loans?

A) Yes, as long as you've not reached your aggregate limit of 57k
B) If you are enrolled in at least 6 credits (half-time), then yes.
 
Hi Everyone!!

I'm a new member here and am very happy to have come across this support network! I literally just graduated college and am in the process of sending out applications to some pre-med programs. I had my heart set on Harvard Health Careers Program (application not yet submitted) for a number of reasons, but reading through some threads, have gotten very discouraged and sad.

For some reason I thought practically everyone got into the program, but apparently that's not the case. Long story short, I attended an elite liberal arts college and graduated with a 2.7 science gpa (freshmen & sophomore...you already know) and a 3.4 cumulative gpa. I am a hundred percent capable of excelling in science courses (as I have this past senior year), but I am soooo scared my overall low science gpa will not get me accepted into the program.

Please give me your honest advice, I would really really appreciate it.
 
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Hi Everyone!!

I'm a new member here and am very happy to have come across this support network! I literally just graduated college and am in the process of sending out applications to some pre-med programs. I had my heart set on Harvard Health Careers Program (application not yet submitted) for a number of reasons, but reading through some threads, have gotten very discouraged and sad.

For some reason I thought practically everyone got into the program, but apparently that's not the case. Long story short, I attended an elite liberal arts college and graduated with a 2.7 science gpa (freshmen & sophomore...you already know) and a 3.4 cumulative gpa. I am a hundred percent capable of excelling in science courses (as I have this past senior year), but I am soooo scared my overall low science gpa will not get me accepted into the program.

Please give me your honest advice, I would really really appreciate it.

Hey Star!

First off, this is a great resource and we are glad to have you. Second, you will never know about being accepted to HCP unless you TRY. I cannot stress this enough. I did not try to go to a big school in undergrad, I went to the first one that gave me a scholarship. I only submitted my Harvard application when my friends encouraged me to do so. I even told my SO, "I'll never get in." Don't be so hard on yourself; you may get in, you may not. If you you are not a candidate for the diploma or HCP, then you can always take the courses at HES. I believe that is what Smiley is doing. There is no letter of recommendation or the certificate from HCP, but you can take the exact same classes. Remember that HES is open enrollment, but many people drop due to the tough coursework.

My sciGPA was 3.2 and my overall was 3.6. I have stipulations to my acceptance including making above a B average (standard) and a 32 on my MCAT (due to low sciGPA). Thing is, I have a lot of volunteer hours, I work part-time for a psychologist, and have research experience. These qualities, in my opinion, make for a stronger application than a mere GPA definition. The point here is to know your weaknesses (which you do) and try to be a competitive candidate for HCP or the diploma. Dr. Fixsen wants to see that you are compatible with the rigors of HES coursework and that you fit into a potential health professional.

Do you have volunteer work? Research experience? Anything?

Cheer up Charlie!
 
Hey Jennet,

I also have never taken out a loan but I do plan to borrow from Sallie Mae for my postbac. I am not in the HCP so I am not eligible for federal aid.
Regarding getting a loan without a co-signer- when I initially independently applied for the private loan I was denied and told that I needed to re-apply with a co-signer and that "I shouldn't worry because most students need to apply with a co-signer." I hope you have better luck but I'd try to stick with only federal loans if I were you- better rates and no interest for the subsidized loans. But the Sallie Mae smart option student loan does offer deferment as long as you are enrolled in school, even med school. Gotta think about the glide/application year- either you continue to take classes or you start repayment.

Just giving you a heads up about applying without a co-signer. My parents are also reluctant to co-sign for me, they don't want me getting into debt but I feel bad for taking from my blue-collar parents that put me through undergrad.

According to the lady I spoke to on the phone I could "borrow as much as I
want." You can definitely live as comfortably as you want but I don't recommend you living too mtv-crib comfortable unless you have a neuro/spine fellowship lined up already 😉 I've read enough horror stories about physicians drowning in debt to not take the financial aspects of this journey into strong consideration.

But again, I suggest you exhaust your options for federal aid and that I would also opt to stick with federal aid if it was an option for me.

Good luck!

I love that the customer rep you spoke with said, "as much as you want." Pandora's box for medical students! I'd like to live at the level I am now which is frugal but comfortable. I have lived on 19K a year before, so I am not worried...only concerned about the sticker shock from apartment prices! The rent will be 3x what I pay here and I currently rent a house. My total bills are less than $500 a month. Good times...

What's that saying? Live like a doctor now and you'll live like a student later? I'm just need to get over my fear of loans; this is one profession where I shouldn't worry about paying them back.

Thanks!
 
Federal loans have an overall lifetime cap, so whatever you take out now and don't pay back before entering graduate school reduces the amount you can borrow from the Feds in the future. In other words, you'll have to borrow $ at a higher rate later on.

Nothing is ever free . . . .
 
Hi everyone,

I will be starting the HCP in the fall and am both excited and nervous about it.
I plan on keeping my car when I move to Boston. Does anyone know what the parking situation is like on the Harvard campus? Are there student parking permits available to HES students? Is it doable at all?

Thanks! 🙂
 
Dangling star- yeah you're right. The HCP does reject people. Good luck!
 
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Hi everyone,

I will be starting the HCP in the fall and am both excited and nervous about it.
I plan on keeping my car when I move to Boston. Does anyone know what the parking situation is like on the Harvard campus? Are there student parking permits available to HES students? Is it doable at all?

Thanks! 🙂

http://www.uos.harvard.edu/transportation/parking/extension_summer_parking.shtml

It's $65 for evening commuter parking for the whole year. Summer School parking is over $200 just for the summer.

Parking at Harvard is very doable, but if you live in Boston, it might cheaper to take the subway.

I live about an hour away, so public transportation is more expensive for me (except during the summer).
 
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Just out of curiosity, is anyone else starting in the summer with gen chem?
 
thinking about starting in the fall guys. can't wait. I need to look at housing options.
 
http://www.uos.harvard.edu/transportation/parking/extension_summer_parking.shtml

It's $65 for evening commuter parking for the whole year. Summer School parking is over $200 just for the summer.

Parking at Harvard is very doable, but if you live in Boston, it might cheaper to take the subway.

I live about an hour away, so public transportation is more expensive for me (except during the summer).

Thanks for the info! 🙂

Yeah, I hope to learn how to get around Boston eventually by public transit. But I will be moving from about two hours away and want to be able to drive home occasionally on weekends, hence why I'd like to keep the car. Also, I hope to get a job at either MGH or McLean, and since I don't know the city at all, I thought it would be easier to drive to and from work/school at first until I get comfortable with the neighborhoods and learn the T/bus routes.

I've been checking craigslist obsessively looking for housing, but it seems that the majority of places aren't available till September (I would like to move in August), I can barely find anything at all in my price range (I don't want to spend more than $1200/month including all utilities and I'd like to live alone..), and I have no idea where to look since I don't know where I'll end up working and what my commute will be like. This is stressing me out more than the thought of taking all those science classes in a few months! Sigh.
 
Hi everyone,

I am also starting the HCP in the Fall, and I am pretty sure I am a diploma candidate (still feel sort of in the dark on everything) I am so glad to know that I am not the only one feeling a bit lost and this forum has been an amazing resource!

I am also beginning to navigate the somewhat scary waters of the private loan process for living expenses and beginning to look at housing options. I'll be moving up from DC in August.

I will be visiting Boston the second or third week in June to scope out neighborhoods and wanted to see if A.) Anyone has any suggestions on neighborhoods and B.) Does it make sense to try and meet with someone from the school, or will it still be too early? I guess I just want to pester someone there to know when we will know if we are diploma candidates... as I am interested in applying for jobs at Harvard and should begin the process now or very soon and figured the student employment resource available to diploma students would be pretty useful... Does anyone know when we should hear?

I think I will get my private loan through either USAA or Sallie Mae, but I haven't decided yet. My undergrad school's only option for private loans was PNC and they were TERRIBLE.

Let me know if anyone has strokes of wisdom on the housing. That also seems to be the bit that is stressing me out more than the thought of organic chemistry!


Looking forward to meeting everyone in the Fall.

Blair
 
When applying for FAFSA did ya'll apply as an undergraduate or grad student? Explaining the post-bac program is a bit confusing to them
 
When applying for FAFSA did ya'll apply as an undergraduate or grad student? Explaining the post-bac program is a bit confusing to them


I believe there is a box for 5th year, postbaccalaureate.

Today's the priority deadline for FAFSA - Extension school requires a signed copy of 2010 tax return and enrollment plan form.

Here's the link below:

http://www.extension.harvard.edu/forms/
 
Hey everyone - recently accepted to the Harvard HCP and almost 100% sure that I'll be joining you all in the fall, also new to SDN so bear with me if I'm not up to date with all the lingo haha

Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and see who will be starting in Fall! I'm planning on doing the traditional Chem/Physics combo for the first year, with the possibility of adding an English class on top of it if I'm feeling bold.
 
Hey gmen welcome to the club! I'm also gonna be starting at HES in the fall with chem and physics but I'm not in the HCP.
Which English class are you thinking of taking?
I was thinking that if I can manage to do well in the fall with 2 classes then I'll think about adding e-25 (i think that's the basic expos. writing class) in the spring and taking a literature class in the january (3-4 week) session.
 
Hey gmen welcome to the club! I'm also gonna be starting at HES in the fall with chem and physics but I'm not in the HCP.
Which English class are you thinking of taking?
I was thinking that if I can manage to do well in the fall with 2 classes then I'll think about adding e-25 (i think that's the basic expos. writing class) in the spring and taking a literature class in the january (3-4 week) session.

I haven't even thought about it yet, but most likely a lit class of some kind - I may also just do the two the first semester to gauge how much extra time I'll have for the 3rd class and then go from there... still undecided
 
smiley and gmen, are you both gonna be working? i think i will take bio and orgo my first year and possibly add a math class of sorts.
 
I was looking at classes for the fall, and I know the registration doesn't open till August, but for some reason chem was almost completely filled already. Does that mean its on first come first serve basis?
 
I'm planning on working part-time to try and offset some living expenses, but no more than 20 hours per week - I know it's possible to do a full-time job with the program, but I'd rather focus on classes and make sure I'm able to do my absolute best throughout the semester even if it means taking on a bit more debt

@MsMD00 - I was under the impression that the prereqs didnt have a size limit, hopefully that is still the case
 
I was looking at classes for the fall, and I know the registration doesn't open till August, but for some reason chem was almost completely filled already. Does that mean its on first come first serve basis?

Where do you see the seats available for a particular course? This is scary news indeed, as my plan was to take gen chem and physics. I'm sure most of us are in that boat.

Edit: you sure you weren't looking at Fall 2010? There I saw enrollment limit: 320, number enrolled: 308.
 
I was looking at classes for the fall, and I know the registration doesn't open till August, but for some reason chem was almost completely filled already. Does that mean its on first come first serve basis?

This past year was the first year that they've put a cap on Chem, but I don't remember it being a real problem for people to register. I waited until fairly late (I think mid to late August) to register and I was able to get in.

I'd talk with Fixsen if it ever did become full, especially since a noticeable number of people dropped the course after the first midterm last year.
 
I'm planning on working part-time to try and offset some living expenses, but no more than 20 hours per week - I know it's possible to do a full-time job with the program, but I'd rather focus on classes and make sure I'm able to do my absolute best throughout the semester even if it means taking on a bit more debt

oh ok. but you haven't found a job yet. for some reason, i was under the impression that most people in the program already live in Boston and are just continuing their day time jobs. I feel like I'm the only one coming from outside the state. Either way, I'm excited to be getting started. I can't wait to start and meet the rest of you guys in the fall
 
smiley and gmen, are you both gonna be working? i think i will take bio and orgo my first year and possibly add a math class of sorts.

I still don't know if I'm going to work. I'm kind of leaning towards not working unless it's medical related or application-enhancing. My previous boss in a big chain restaurant in NY offered to transfer me to a Boston restaurant but I'm probably not going to take him up on his offer as adcoms won't care if I served burgers and fries.

Whatever money that I would have made working will have to be taken out in loans instead.
 
I am filling out my application and I have a question about #23. Do I list any volunteer and work experience? Or is it just volunteer and work experience related to health?

Thanks!
 
I am filling out my application and I have a question about #23. Do I list any volunteer and work experience? Or is it just volunteer and work experience related to health?

Thanks!

I interpreted it as all volunteer and work experience when I filled it out, but I experienced the same initial confusion - anyway I was accepted, so even if it was the wrong interpretation, it didn't have a negative effect on my application
 
I listed all work experience. All of my work experience happens to be in health care, but I would have listed it even if it was in a different field.
 
I was looking at classes for the fall, and I know the registration doesn't open till August, but for some reason chem was almost completely filled already. Does that mean its on first come first serve basis?

You are looking at Fall 2010. Don't worry I did that too.
 
oh ok. but you haven't found a job yet. for some reason, i was under the impression that most people in the program already live in Boston and are just continuing their day time jobs. I feel like I'm the only one coming from outside the state. Either way, I'm excited to be getting started. I can't wait to start and meet the rest of you guys in the fall

Trust me, you're not the only one coming from out of state. There are plenty of people who attend this program from across the country. I will be leaving a very nice job, my entire family, all my friends, my dog...not going to be easy. The best advice I received was to save up for a month, find your way around, then look into jobs. I may plan on doing something part-time, but I'm definitely taking out loans.

Good luck.
 
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I'm in. See you all in the Fall 🙂

The turnaround time at HES is simply amazing. The whole process took less than 10 days.
 
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I compiled a list of SDN users starting in Fall2011. I gathered this data from various posts to the SDN forum. It is not comprehensive, so if I missed your name, please don't take it personally. Just add yourself to the list.

  1. DocInDaHouse
  2. Jennet
  3. cluster
  4. gmen028
  5. blair2011
  6. Sciengee
  7. Pose
  8. UCLAtrueblue
  9. chicagoryan
  10. runnerbee
  11. MsMD00
  12. noy2005
  13. simcha17
  14. AlbionAshley
  15. LetsGoNeuro
 
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I'm starting in the fall as well and moving from Dallas. I love Texas, so this whole process is a bit bittersweet. But I'm hoping in the end it will all payoff! Looking forward to meeting ya'll in the Fall!
 
I live in the Boston area, and would be completely willing to meet up/show around/orient people to the area. Feel free to send me a PM.
 
Hey Doc, I'm moving from Texas. Trust me, you're not the only one coming from out of state. There are plenty of people who attend this program from across the country. I will be leaving a very nice job, my entire family, all my friends, my dog...not going to be easy. The best advice I received was to save up for a month, find your way around, then look into jobs. I may plan on doing something part-time, but I'm definitely taking out loans.

Good luck.

alright. fantastic. i'm coming from Chicago. I'm excited to meet all of you in the fall.

oh btw, if people are confused, this is my older brother's account. I'm just using it. i just didn't wanna set up my own account. so he's the one who was in the UAMS class of 2010. not me. sorry for any confusion.
 
I'm starting in the fall as well and moving from Dallas. I love Texas, so this whole process is a bit bittersweet. But I'm hoping in the end it will all payoff! Looking forward to meeting ya'll in the Fall!

MsMD - I love that you'll be there because we can say y'all without people looking at us funny. Unfortunately, I'm ready to get out of Texas for now. Ready for that big northern adventure! Also, I will miss cheap housing.
 
MsMD - I love that you'll be there because we can say y'all without people looking at us funny. Unfortunately, I'm ready to get out of Texas for now. Ready for that big northern adventure! Also, I will miss cheap housing.


Haha, I'm glad I have another Texan up there too! Oh gosh, the housing is ridiculous! I've been looking at apartments online and the rent is as much as it is to rent a house here. So depressing. When will you be moving?
 
I saw online that most med schools require 14 hours of bio. 12 hours of lecture, and 2 hours of lab. But in this program we only take 2 bio classes, right? I'm just a bit confused.
 
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