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**Official Where Should OncDoc Matriculate Thread**
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you know i like ucla onc 🙂 fabulous new hospital, and the traffic thing isn't relevant if you live in westwood. gorgeous year-round, great director, etc... a lot of those things are true at penn too, but i might have a very hard time deciding if i had that choice. i do (no offense to all lovely people here) wonder if SDN can be a little rankings-oriented, and the hype about penn has been very intense... and if you might want to end up in seattle, this might be a good place to set up from. not that penn is a bad one--you really can't go wrong here, and you are in a great position to pick!
i've lived in la and in new england both for significant amounts of time. i used to feel like i missed the snow, but no more. LA can suck if you live in the wrong area, but if you find a little neighborhood you like it's wonderful. you can manage to live for $800 a month reasonably, and it's not too hard to get a place on the santa monica bus line (very nice bus line) if you don't want to live right no campus. southern cal really does have it all.
i've lived in la and in new england both for significant amounts of time. i used to feel like i missed the snow, but no more. LA can suck if you live in the wrong area, but if you find a little neighborhood you like it's wonderful. you can manage to live for $800 a month reasonably, and it's not too hard to get a place on the santa monica bus line (very nice bus line) if you don't want to live right no campus. southern cal really does have it all.
So, I may have missed this somewhere in there, but have all 3 schools decided to let you defer? I got my letter from Penn today and they said there was a deadline to apply for deferment, and I know that was a big issue for you.
That said, COME TO PENN!!! 😍
Ari
That said, COME TO PENN!!! 😍
Ari
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Yes, all three schools have offered me a deferral. There is a deadline to apply for one at Penn - May 1. But Skip has told me it's no problem. Thanks for your input, although I suspect it a tad biased 😉
lol
Ari and I are going to be team "GO PENN" during revisit - make sure all the cool kids matriculate! 😉
That's the easy impression to get when you cab in from the airport...that area is definitely not so nice. However, when you drive out (from the west)to move, the first glimse of the city you'll get will be of Fairmount Park, boat house row, and the PMA. It's actually quite pretty.
Hmm, I'm not sure I'm in that cohort...
you mean the "GO PENN" group (aka people who know they're going to Penn) or the cool kids?
Dude, we like science AND medicine - how can we not be cool???
Yup, I knew it, I'm not in this cohort.
Burn!
Definitely in the "GO PENN" group (see above). Definitely not in the cool kids group, although I never did have my lunch money stolen in elementary school.
Quotation shamelessly altered to un-hurt OncDoc19 and my feelings.
Ari
Seraph, i think this is your queue to organize the "GO WASH U" group...gotta compete with j...
lol i cant even find people in pre-allo to support washu haha, we dont even have a facebook group!
I did however, start a washu mstp group...u know you want to join 😵
yeah, that Wash U class of 2012 thread really needs some life...people got excited about the pen for a while, but that seems to be it...
i'm really, really tempted...
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OncDoc....Did you eliminate UCSD as a possibility after the other thread? I am not sure if you were accepted there too...but it has a phenomenal history of Medicine group with the pseudonom of "Science Studies". Steven Shapin did some advising for my thesis in Philosophy of Science and he is excellent (in all respects).
Otherwise...I actually like the Science studies/History of Med program better at UCLA than Penn......It seems to me more of a cohesive program which may or may not be what you are looking for. Plus there are a lot of great cancer researchers there (not that there are not at Penn). But I think you will get more support for HofM at UCLA!!! What was the sense that you got at your campus visits?? Did you get to meet with diverse departments (like Anthropology, Philosophy, Rhetoric??)...hopefully you can draw on all of these in your future work.
Otherwise...I actually like the Science studies/History of Med program better at UCLA than Penn......It seems to me more of a cohesive program which may or may not be what you are looking for. Plus there are a lot of great cancer researchers there (not that there are not at Penn). But I think you will get more support for HofM at UCLA!!! What was the sense that you got at your campus visits?? Did you get to meet with diverse departments (like Anthropology, Philosophy, Rhetoric??)...hopefully you can draw on all of these in your future work.
Actually that was j-weezy. She's matriculating to Penn.
Hmm, could you elaborate as to what you mean by a cohesive program at UCLA? I guess I didn't necessarily get that sense at UCLA but did at Penn. The HOM researchers at Penn are all in the history of science department whereas at UCLA they are all in the history dept but I'm not sure how much group mentality there is. I did get the sense that I would be very supported by the MSTP at UCLA. There is good interdisciplinary research going on there and the Rand Center for Health Services is a big draw for me. I'm interested in modern history using mixed methods. I didn't get a good sense of the rigor of the traditional historical training at UCLA. The history dept is certainly huge but the HOM world is really based on the east coast. I didn't get to meet with other depts while I was there, but the person who would be my research mentor is very involved in interdisciplinary research and even has NIH funding. He's an MD/PhD as well. I think he would make a great mentor and I know he has a sincere desire to train an MD/PhD.
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i wanna go where they have ninjas!
Actually he only has his MD but is a professor in the history dept. I'm not quite sure how that worked out...
i get that a lot... 😎
but i think the real hero here is the filmmaker extraodinaire Josh Gorin.
OncDoc, i think you need to add ninjas and Blitzfilme to your list of Penn pros!
I was looking into philospophy of science/History of Medicine programs about 3 years back as a possibility. At that time UCLA had a set curriculum and Penn didn't, and the students at UCLA had nothing to say but good things, a student at Penn by contrast felt "marginalized" in the medical school and as an HofM grad student. I only had contact with PhD students no MD/PhD students (one was an MD/MS student at UCLA).
These may no longer be true things...I don't know what the Penn curriculum is any longer. I definately agree that the HofM word is centered on the east Coast....fortunately, I'm in a subworld that is centered at Berkeley/SD/Berlin...ha ha.
Did you ask how the schools thought about you taking summer rotations/PhD years to do NIH policy/HofM fellowships? Or other fellowships at places important to HofM??
They are both great schools. If you already know what you want to do in your gut, that is where you should go....because it will just plain make you happier.
These may no longer be true things...I don't know what the Penn curriculum is any longer. I definately agree that the HofM word is centered on the east Coast....fortunately, I'm in a subworld that is centered at Berkeley/SD/Berlin...ha ha.
Did you ask how the schools thought about you taking summer rotations/PhD years to do NIH policy/HofM fellowships? Or other fellowships at places important to HofM??
They are both great schools. If you already know what you want to do in your gut, that is where you should go....because it will just plain make you happier.
Just to revive a dead thread now that OncDoc is decided:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sogKUx_q7ig
Ari
