Ohio

[Man o War]

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I wonder if the Ohio anesthesia lobby will successfully fend this one off.....

http://www.ohiohouse.gov/dorothy-pe...hority-of-advanced-practice-registered-nurses

 

[postbacpremed87]

There isn't a shortage of physicians. This is really starting to get on my nerves.

 

[67552931811]

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[PainDrain]

The claim that there is a physician shortage therefore allow non-physicians to practice medicine is just asinine on so many levels. First off, there is no shortage. Second, allowing NPs to practice indecently is a disaster. I have so many stories from these Noctors screwing people up it's insane.

 

[Ronin786]

If there's a shortage of police officers, can I grab my sidearm and go around pulling folks over?

 

[Carbocation1]

If there's a shortage of police officers, can I grab my sidearm and go around pulling folks over?

No, but if there's a shortage of janitors you can certainly pick up a mop and start working. It seems that is a more accurate comparison.

 

[abolt18]

No, but if there's a shortage of janitors you can certainly pick up a mop and start working. It seems that is a more accurate comparison.

Not all mops are equal.

 

[amyl]

Not all mops are equal in the eyes of the person who has to eat off the floor.... But to the bucket they are all the same.... The buckets are in charge... Unfortunately

 

[Carbocation1]

CRNAs are being trained to become anesthesia business owners: http://newswise.com/articles/busine...e-helps-crnas-unlock-their-business-potential

Meanwhile, in medical school, we are paying 70K/year and not learning jack **** about business. Instead, we get the "teamwork" and "professionalism" propaganda, further degrading the status of future physicians.

 

[deleted171991]

CRNAs are being trained to become anesthesia business owners: http://newswise.com/articles/busine...e-helps-crnas-unlock-their-business-potential

Meanwhile, in medical school, we are paying 70K/year and not learning jack **** about business. Instead, we get the "teamwork" and "professionalism" propaganda, further degrading the status of future physicians.

Bingo! You are not trained to be an independent business owner, just a corporate/professional drone.

 

[anbuitachi]

CRNAs are being trained to become anesthesia business owners: http://newswise.com/articles/busine...e-helps-crnas-unlock-their-business-potential

Meanwhile, in medical school, we are paying 70K/year and not learning jack **** about business. Instead, we get the "teamwork" and "professionalism" propaganda, further degrading the status of future physicians.

thats because medical schools dont care about all the other stuff. the goal of medical school is to train students to understand some part of medicine to prepare for residency. they dont really care if you end up practicing 60 hrs a week and make 100k and work for nurses. they will tell you "your job is to take care of patients, not yourself". i mean why else would they make us do 80 hr weeks in med school and residency, forcing many of us to not eat well, not exercise well, and not sleep well (or much at all) even though there's a mountain of evidence showing the negative affects of all those on health. the reason they set the 80 hr limit in the first place was b/c they worry it had a neg affect on taking care of patients!. no one really cares about doctors

 

[deleted126335]

thats because medical schools dont care about all the other stuff. the goal of medical school is to train students to understand some part of medicine to prepare for residency. they dont really care if you end up practicing 60 hrs a week and make 100k and work for nurses. they will tell you "your job is to take care of patients, not yourself". i mean why else would they make us do 80 hr weeks in med school and residency, forcing many of us to not eat well, not exercise well, and not sleep well (or much at all) even though there's a mountain of evidence showing the negative affects of all those on health. the reason they set the 80 hr limit in the first place was b/c they worry it had a neg affect on taking care of patients!. no one really cares about doctors

The response is "you don't have to do it. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. Plenty of Med school applicants."

 

[Carbocation1]

Bingo! You are not trained to be an independent business owner, just a corporate/professional drone.

When single payor happens and patients are forced to enroll in "health systems" (rather than being able to choose your own physician), all doctors will be forced to become corporate drones, regardless of specialty or competency/skill.

 

[67552931811]

When single payor happens and patients are forced to enroll in "health systems" (rather than being able to choose your own physician), all doctors will be forced to become corporate drones, regardless of specialty or competency/skill.

Gotta start practicing my, "g'day mate."

 

[bashwell]

Gotta start practicing my, "g'day mate."

'Straya is a great place to be an anesthesiologist (aka anaesthetist). It's not perfect but the practice environment for anesthesiologists/anaesthetists is much better than the US.

Also currently the Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists (ANZCA) probably will recognize most of the anesthesiology residency training from the US (maybe just have to do an extra year and take the final or exit exams with the college to make the training equivalent) but this may not exist in the future. So if this is serious, it might be best to try to move now or soon. In addition my understanding is it's hard to find an attending level job (e.g. staff specialist) unless you're an Aussie citizen or permanent resident, so if anyone wants to move, then it'd probably be best get Aussie citizenship or PR prior to moving. Just my thoughts.