OHSU (OOS) vs UNE (OOS)

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Hey guys, I'm a PA resident. COA is pretty similar between both schools so I will not be using that as a deciding factor (thank god).

School 1: OHSU - OOS
Pros:
  • Pass/fail
  • Mild summers - huge for me bc I hate intense heat
  • Great transit system and don't need a car
  • Small class size
  • Have 7 residency programs (pro and con) - as of rn I don't plan to specialize but nice to know the pipeline to doing so is a little easier bc they have them if I want to.
  • Can explore new regions, never been to Washington, Nevada, California, etc so could be cool. Idk how much time I'll have to explore but it is a cool thought.
  • Explored Portland and it was a lot of fun and very charming. Really nice people and a lot to do. I'm not super athletic and outdoorsy so having things in the city to do is really nice for a balance.
Cons:
  • Inconvenient grocery stores, like a 20 min transit to the closest one.
  • Inconvenient travel, no direct flights to Pitt or Philly so will be a minimum of an 8hr travel day for the holidays.
  • Of course very far from home, I'm not opposed to a new city but I don't have any family nearby.
  • Relatively strict on attendance - understandable but it makes it difficult to miss for a family occasion or something.
  • (pro and con) Bc of the residency programs, complex cases get passes to residents. Im not sure if this compromises clinical experience at all.
School 2: UNE - OOS
Pros:
  • Pass/fail
  • Mental health days offered to support students and give a break if necessary. They also have strict-ish attendance but its nice to have these offered too.
  • Small class size
  • Begin clinic in D2. This is really really attractive to me.
  • No residency programs (pro and con) - get to do more complex cases and probably a better clinical experience. Would love someone to confirm if this assumption is true or not though.
  • I went to undergrad at a small, more rural school and LOVED it so I am sure I would be comfortable here and in this environment (I live in Philly for work now tho and wonder if I will miss being in a city… but 4 years will fly by, right?)
  • Also milder summers
  • Can explore a new region, never been to North Eastern US states so could be cool.
Cons:
  • Have to wear business casual clothes for lecture..yikes.
  • Also inconvenient travel - random layovers making it long or really expensive direct flights to Philly but home home is in western PA. Could travel home with sister from Philly for holidays but such a hassle.
  • (slight con - not a deal breaker) Will need a car - I truthfully prefer to drive but I'm sure shoveling off my car in the winter will be annoying sometimes. I think I would love having a car the rest of the year though.
  • No residency programs (pro and con) - if I want to specialize won't have the opportunity to do it here. But if I really want to ik I can specialize out of anywhere.
  • I loveee going to concerts and no one does tours in Maine - at least not my favorite artists. I would be sad to give this up for 4 years bc I can't be driving 2hrs to Boston each way if I have class early and a strict attendance policy. This is clearly more of a personal one rather than ab the school itself.

There is probably more I am missing that I am forgetting right now, but most of the big things I like about both schools make them pretty darn similar like the pass/fail, cost, and small classes are huge for me so that doesn't help me decide. The cons are where they start to differ. I'd say the biggest thing that could sway me one way or the other is knowing if I will graduate feeling ready or if I will feel like I need a general residency to feel comfortable to practice. If general residencies are more common after one school than the other, please let me know bc I will be choosing the one that prepares students well without this. I'm not opposed to one, but would hate to have to do one bc the school I'm going into so much debt for doesn't prepare me enough. I'm not sure what to really choose but id love any input.

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I think you should weigh the important professional pros and cons a bit more. Wearing business professional clothes every day is nothing since you will do that for the test of your life in clinics under your scrubs. I am wary of your observation that grocery stores are far away in Portland... I at least know of the downtown Whole Foods (not to mention Blue Star Donuts - Shipping!). I'm sure there must be farmers markets, so I'm not sure this is an issue.

Portland is very nice with their transit system, though you will need a car to go to the woods... no difference from Maine except I don't know about parking in Portland (or shipping your car).

Every school should tell you the exam days ahead of time, and most should be able to adjust if you anticipate a big family event. However you should remember you are a professional in training. Your bankable, professional skills should be a priority at this time. Talk to students at both schools.

PS. Once when I visited Portland, it was over 100 degrees in June. Very unusual heat day, but you should ask about forest fires... in both cases.
 
I think you should weigh the important professional pros and cons a bit more. Wearing business professional clothes every day is nothing since you will do that for the test of your life in clinics under your scrubs. I am wary of your observation that grocery stores are far away in Portland... I at least know of the downtown Whole Foods (not to mention Blue Star Donuts - Shipping!). I'm sure there must be farmers markets, so I'm not sure this is an issue.

Portland is very nice with their transit system, though you will need a car to go to the woods... no difference from Maine except I don't know about parking in Portland (or shipping your car).

Every school should tell you the exam days ahead of time, and most should be able to adjust if you anticipate a big family event. However you should remember you are a professional in training. Your bankable, professional skills should be a priority at this time. Talk to students at both schools.

PS. Once when I visited Portland, it was over 100 degrees in June. Very unusual heat day, but you should ask about forest fires... in both cases.
All these pros and cons are important to me in addition to the “professional” ones. But i have also visited Portland Oregon and heard directly from their admissions and students that grocery shopping is a pain. I think it’s fair to worry about having to go 40 min round trip to just even get the groceries in midst of stressful exams and practicals. And i’m in agreement about the importance of attending classes and not missing, but I just wanted to consider things that you cant control like a family death or getting sick.

Thank you for commenting and sharing some perspective on my thoughts
 
All these pros and cons are important to me in addition to the “professional” ones. But i have also visited Portland Oregon and heard directly from their admissions and students that grocery shopping is a pain. I think it’s fair to worry about having to go 40 min round trip to just even get the groceries in midst of stressful exams and practicals. And i’m in agreement about the importance of attending classes and not missing, but I just wanted to consider things that you cant control like a family death or getting sick.

Thank you for commenting and sharing some perspective on my thoughts
1.3 miles to safeway
2.5 miles to whole foods
2.9 miles to trader joe's

i just aksed a group text of 3 ohsu first years if this is true "Cons: Inconvenient grocery stores, like a 20 min transit to the closest one."
and the immediate answer was "not true, 10 or so for grocery stores outside downtown and 20 for costco"
 
1.3 miles to safeway
2.5 miles to whole foods
2.9 miles to trader joe's

i just aksed a group text of 3 ohsu first years if this is true "Cons: Inconvenient grocery stores, like a 20 min transit to the closest one."
and the immediate answer was "not true, 10 or so for grocery stores outside downtown and 20 for costco"
hmm good to know i guess! i talked on the phone with a first year on Sunday and she’s the one who said it was a pain. and the admissions said that it’s a “sore spot” of the school. I guess it’s subjective.
 
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I won’t have a car here so idk. this is what i see.
 
If you haven't decided, I would choose UNE as well, looks like you have really thought a lot about the pros and cons of each program.

Going to a school that has residency programs vs one that doesn't:
I go to a school without residency programs, and I will agree you do more extractions and probably treat more kids at a program without a pediatric or OS residency attached to it. However, I think my dental education would be better if we did have residency programs. I would love to do rotations in different residency programs to learn more about them than just the didactic courses. We don't even have specialists teaching the classes for some of our didactic courses about specialties. For the ortho unit, we had a pediatric dentist teaching & general dentists teaching us pros.
 
I did choose UNE, but thank you for sharing that perspective I actually never had that consideration of faculty teaching outside of their speciality.. I hope it still goes well! I’m happy with my choice but will have to be mindful of the things you mentioned. Thank you for commenting! 🙂
 
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