the question was if having to do a peds and ob/gyn a requirement for an IM residency
the answer is per the ACGME
http://www.acgme.org/portals/0/pfassets/programrequirements/140_internal_medicine_2016.pdf
is that, of rotations outside of IM, the core requirements are 1 month of EM, Geriatrics, and Neurology (they don't define how long an assignment in the last 2).
I take it you are on an elective?
question to OP though...could this be a requirement of the Osteopathic residency and their TRI?
rokshana, as you usual you miss my point, seemingly on purpose
first of all, the OP asked about the STATE of OK and
their IM residency requirements. Therefore, I assumed they were talking about what a specific IM program there might require with regards to ob/gyn and peds. As an aside, I actually did interview at both programs in OK.
In any case, I proceeded to outline to them the situations in which,
to my knowledge, one might be in internal medicine training yet in the midst of said program be called on to care for pediatric or obstetric patients. I did so, because it
seemed to me, that the OP might be interested to know, to what extent training in IM might include such populations.
Essentially, the short answer is no, you do not have to do any months of peds or ob/gyn per ACGME. However, that still doesn't answer the OP's question as many residency programs have leeway to include requirements that are outside of the ACGME requirements. In fact, I have heard of some of the programs with PC tracks including outpatient clinics and urgent care, where in fact pediatric or obstetric patients would be seen. Typically the residents are being supervised by FM docs in those clinics as it is within the scope of care of those attendings to supervise IM residents in such scenarios.
In fact, in your post you question if it's possible for there to be requirements outside of ACGME. The answer is, yes.
So rather than quote those ACGME requirements, I chose to say that
to my knowledge, peds and/or ob/gyn rotations are not part of IM training, however that does not mean that peds or ob/gyn
populations are
never included.
One of the appeals of IM to many was not having to see those populations. If I had the impression that a program would include those as full rotations, I would feel trepidation. I wanted to reassure OP that was not typically the case, while highlighting that they would still need to retain some knowledge for USMLE 3, just as many IM programs tell their interns. I also explained the other circumstances where
to my knowledge an IM resident might see those populations, in case such knowledge was at all useful. Some might be glad to know under what settings they might have to see those populations and what knowledge base would be most useful (eg pediatric emergency medicine, not necessarily the childhood vaccination schedule).
Also rokshana, don't think that it goes unnoticed by me that most of your posts where you quote me or address me you seem awfully interested in what I am doing when I am not on this board. That is frankly none of your business, and I'm actually more curious as to why it seems to matter so much to you. I've never asked what you are doing otherwise, I feel that is rude on an anonymous forum for professionals if such inquiries are coming from a place of anything aside from genuine concern or friendship. I hope you're not trying to gather information about me to try to deduce my identity. That would be a TOS violation, of course.
In any case, I'm wondering what of the information I shared with the OP was either so bothersome to you. Granted, it's been a few years since I have interviewed, and your knowledge might conflict with mine, and that's fine. Programs are changing year by year. Some month by month even. What I said was based on the 25+ interviews I went on and the information I gathered on the trail. As such, it may be incomplete, inaccurate, inaccurately recalled, hearsay, or outdated.
Have a nice day.
