OMFS Externship

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

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Well, I just finished my first day of my externship at Loma Linda and all I can say is, "I don't know jack about oral surgery." There is so much to know it's insane. I already have a big ol' list of stuff to look up tonight, but the program seems pretty cool so I'm stoked.

 

[StarGirl]

Well, I just finished my first day of my externship at Loma Linda and all I can say is, "I don't know jack about oral surgery." There is so much to know it's insane. I already have a big ol' list of stuff to look up tonight, but the program seems pretty cool so I'm stoked.

you must be from san deigo.

keep updating and share w/ us what you're looking if u don't mind 🙂 ...i start OS rotation in 3 weeks and I'm completely scared...

 

[GatorDMD]

Wow, you go UNLV... cali should be freagin awesome. Please keep us posted on your experiences. I will be checking externships once i get my board scores... if they are good enough that is. Have fun but be sure to share like Yah-e did. later.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

No, not San Diego. What gave you that idea?

 

[Vennai]

Well, I just finished my first day of my externship at Loma Linda and all I can say is, "I don't know jack about oral surgery." There is so much to know it's insane. I already have a big ol' list of stuff to look up tonight, but the program seems pretty cool so I'm stoked.

Hi

I am kind of wondering if the externship program is also for International dentists and what is the future regarding the program. I guess from what I know the program is just an experience.

I have experience doing senior internship in Oral Maxillofacial Surgery and trust me guys and gals its most interesting aspect of dentistry

Waiting for your reply

Vennai

 

[StarGirl]

No, not San Diego. What gave you that idea?

cause the only people i know that use the word "stoke" is from SD

 

[Pi__Guy1]

wow, some people never leave sdn. lol. i come back 7 months later to see how to study for the boards and see the same names....

 

[Doggie]

cause the only people i know that use the word "stoke" is from SD

yeah, i was stoked too.

 

[TX OMFS]

Well, I just finished my first day of my externship at Loma Linda and all I can say is, "I don't know jack about oral surgery." There is so much to know it's insane. I already have a big ol' list of stuff to look up tonight, but the program seems pretty cool so I'm stoked.

Attention all future OMS's: listen to this guy. He seems to know more about OMS than the guru of OMS we all love, Yah-E.

UNLV OMS WANABE, you have the right attitude. You should recognize your position in the team, as you do, and be like a sponge. Absorb as much as you can. Read as much as you can, espcially the basics in text books, not journal articles. Work as hard as you can and volunteer for the scut work. Listen way more than you talk. Ask intelligent questions, but before you do think about the timing. Are you about to ask/say something in front of an attending that the residents might not appreciate?

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

Listen way more than you talk. Ask intelligent questions, but before you do think about the timing. Are you about to ask/say something in front of an attending that the residents might not appreciate?

I find that just listening helps a lot. All the residents here mention an extern they had a month ago that thought he knew everything and they hated him. i don't even talk to the attendings unless they talk to me first. They are really cool though when you do get to talk with them a little.

coolest thing of the week......Observing 2 Lefort 1 downfractures. Those things are freakin awesome!!!

 

[Doggie]

I find that just listening helps a lot. All the residents here mention an extern they had a month ago that thought he knew everything and they hated him. i don't even talk to the attendings unless they talk to me first. They are really cool though when you do get to talk with them a little.

coolest thing of the week......Observing 2 Lefort 1 downfractures. Those things are freakin awesome!!!

yeah.....i know what you mean. Sometimes I feel like a ****** when i just stand in the background and they would just talk about technical stuff. The attendings that I met were very understanding in that they would stop every so often to explain the different techniques and procecdures. I just went on-call with one 2 of the residents here. Damn.....things are so intense.......and tiring!

 

[TX OMFS]

One other thing that might be helpful: see if you can find out what cases are posted for the next day and read about them in advance. The Peterson book is a good one to gain basic knowledge, even the single volume Peterson. I would also glance at a Netter's if you aren't absolutely sure of your anatomy.

LFI's are awesome. I'm still amazed everytime I see someone's maxilla flopping around. Keep up the good work and don't forget to apply to schools over here in the south.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

I have the single volume peterson and I've been reading in that a bit. A resident told me the multiple volume peterson is pretty awesome for advanced stuff but it costs like $400 or something like that. Does that sound right?

Doggie - So are you all done with your apps yet?

 

[TX OMFS]

The newest Peterson is two volumes and was just printed. It will set you back more like $500, so you may hold off. The library will probably have the older, red, three volume set if you're interested but I think the single volume can tell you a lot. You can also check the internet with a google search for particular topics. There is also a two volume set on trauma by Fonseca which is pretty good. When you get into residency it's best to use several sources b/c there's not always one right answer, but for now I'd read your single volume Peterson and look at the internet.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

Sounds good, that book is plenty big for now.

 

[Doggie]

Wannabe: I've sent out my apps last week.....now I just gotta sit back and wait.... Did you see any cool trauma cases yet? Let me know when you do. The coolest thing I've seen so far was probably a zygomatic complex fracture where the extra-oral incisions were made above and below the eyes......pretty gruesome!!!

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

I just saw one of those the other day but they only cut below the eye, it was awesome though. i was at the patients head so I saw them go in with the electro-surge and everything. They handle a lot of trauma here b/c they cover three hospitals. I've seen about 12 mandible fractures in just this week. yesterday in one day I watched the chief do 4 orthagnathic cases. The fist was a BSSO with a chin, then a double jaw w/chin, then another BSSO w/chin and then a Lefort 1 w/chin. It was pretty sweet. I always knew residency was tough but these guys work their butts off. It is so much fun though, going back to dental school, especially w/2 more years left, will definately suck.

 

[StarGirl]

yeah.....i know what you mean. Sometimes I feel like a ****** when i just stand in the background and they would just talk about technical stuff. The attendings that I met were very understanding in that they would stop every so often to explain the different techniques and procecdures. I just went on-call with one 2 of the residents here. Damn.....things are so intense.......and tiring!

WOW, DOES THAT MEAN YOU MADE IT THRU A FRIDAY NIGHT W/O EtOH??????????? 😱

 

[Doggie]

I just saw one of those the other day but they only cut below the eye, it was awesome though. i was at the patients head so I saw them go in with the electro-surge and everything. They handle a lot of trauma here b/c they cover three hospitals. I've seen about 12 mandible fractures in just this week. yesterday in one day I watched the chief do 4 orthagnathic cases. The fist was a BSSO with a chin, then a double jaw w/chin, then another BSSO w/chin and then a Lefort 1 w/chin. It was pretty sweet. I always knew residency was tough but these guys work their butts off. It is so much fun though, going back to dental school, especially w/2 more years left, will definately suck.

I know what you mean......doing all those non-stop OR cases. I think it's tougher being an extern.......even if the cases are boring and long, you'd still have to stand there and pretend you are interested.........hehehe. just playing. One of the 2nd year resident here told me that during his extern at LSU, he got in pretty tight with some of the chiefs.....so much so that he was allowed to do some mandibular set-backs!! Let's try to do that by the time our externship is over. 😀

 

[Doggie]

WOW, DOES THAT MEAN YOU MADE IT THRU A FRIDAY NIGHT W/O EtOH??????????? 😱

yup.....friday nite without EtOH. saturday nite is another story....

 

[StarGirl]

yup.....friday nite without EtOH. saturday nite is another story....

always shock to see you make it thru either a friday or saturday night w/o alcohol... but then a whole weekend would out it...now that would be a miracle...

 

[G-Dubya]

bump

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

Not quite sure why you bumped but since I finished my externship I'll say a few words. #1 Externships are a lot of fun. You get to hang out with all the residents and do cool stuff but you're not expected to know anything so you're pretty much care free. #2 Residency's are hard. They expect you to know EVERYTHING and be 5 places at once. It seems like it's 100x's harder than dental school. #3 Oral Surgery is seriously awesome.

 

[Doggie]

Not quite sure why you bumped but since I finished my externship I'll say a few words. #1 Externships are a lot of fun. You get to hang out with all the residents and do cool stuff but you're not expected to know anything so you're pretty much care free. #2 Residency's are hard. They expect you to know EVERYTHING and be 5 places at once. It seems like it's 100x's harder than dental school. #3 Oral Surgery is seriously awesome.

Perhaps he wanted you to talk about ur daily experiences?? 😀

 

[Yah-E]

Bill:

I'm glad that you enjoyed your OMFS externship experiences. I guess it really depends on what externship you're at, some will pimp you like crazy (non-maliciously), but some will not. About listing everything you've done during your externship like I did in my thread, I'm glad that you didn't, if you did, you probably get yelled at by people such as TX OMFS stating that you think you know everything and you should stop thinking that you're so cool!

I have my second official OMFS externship lined up for this upcoming winter vacation at University of Minnesota. I'm excited because it's my alma mater for undergrad and I've been there visitng the OMFS dept the last two spring breaks. I enjoy the faculty and the residents there and I can't wait for my official 2-week participation! 👍 Once again, I will be listing my daily routine for all to see, just to impress TX OMFS so he can think that I think I'm all that! 🙄

 

[GatorDMD]

i want to hear about the loma linda experience. please share. dont mind the residents.

 

[UNLV OMS GUNNABE]

I'm short on time nowadays but here's a little something from what I've gathered. I havn't been on any other externships so I can't compare with other programs. Loma Linda seems like a good program. They cover three hospitals in the area. They cover facial trauma at the county hospital (biggest one in the country, or most expensive or something like that) 24/7. they cover trauma at the other 2 hospitals about 1 week/month, so they get to see a lot of trauma. They also do a ton of orthognathic. I saw the chief resident do 7 cases in one week and that isn't too extraordinary for there. It also seems like they handle a lot of implant cases but from what the residents say they really don't do any cancer. Based on what the residents say and what I saw while I was there they handle a ton of cases every year. I don't know how it stacks up against others but the residents said they are one of the busiest, they definately arn't lacking cases. The program director is a young guy, 35, he seems pretty awesome and very interested in making the program one of the best. He likes to do everything and be on the cutting edge. This year is the first year they accepted one student into a 6 year program. I believe they want all the residents to go 6 years eventually so for the next few years there will be a transition. In the past the program only accepted 1 resedent/year, 2 years ago they started 2 resedents/year and this year they have 2 4-year residents and 1 6-year resident. So, there is a lot changing at the program but it all seems like it's all for the best. My overall experience was very positive. Before I went there it was a program I hadn't really heard of but now it has definately moved up the list in my mind and I will apply there for sure next year. If you guys have any more q's go ahead and ask, I'll do my best.

 

[Sgazz]

Heyy. I’m doing my externship at University of Minnesota next month. I’m nervous as hell and would really like some insight to the experience. What should I bring with me to the hospital?
The email said they expect me to b here in scrubs so am I supposed to go their in scrubs or should I go in professional attire and change into scrubs later?

Would really appreciate your advise

 

[Sgazz]

Heyy. I’m doing my externship at University of Minnesota next month. I’m nervous as hell and would really like some insight to the experience. What should I bring with me to the hospital?
The email said they expect me to b here in scrubs so am I supposed to go their in scrubs or should I go in professional attire and change into scrubs later?

Would really appreciate your advise

 

[Localnative]

Heyy. I’m doing my externship at University of Minnesota next month. I’m nervous as hell and would really like some insight to the experience. What should I bring with me to the hospital?
The email said they expect me to b here in scrubs so am I supposed to go their in scrubs or should I go in professional attire and change into scrubs later?

Would really appreciate your advise

Heyy. I’m doing my externship at University of Minnesota next month. I’m nervous as hell and would really like some insight to the experience. What should I bring with me to the hospital?
The email said they expect me to b here in scrubs so am I supposed to go their in scrubs or should I go in professional attire and change into scrubs later?

Would really appreciate your advise

be this guy.