One yr rotating internship after DO school

[bluerose786]

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Hello Guys,

I was reading on the AOA website that students finishing at osteopathic medical schools complete a one year rotating internship after their 4th year. Is this internship mandatory or can students go straight into residency programs after graduation?

Thanks, and hope everyone's having a good weekend.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Hello Guys,

I was reading on the AOA website that students finishing at osteopathic medical schools complete a one year rotating internship after their 4th year. Is this internship mandatory or can students go straight into residency programs after graduation?

Thanks, and hope everyone's having a good weekend.

If entering an AOA residency, you must complete a 1-year internship. This internship can be rotating and seperate from a residency, or it can be a linked or specialty-emphasis internship, which is connected with the residency.

If entering a non-linked internship, you must apply for residency after internship. In linked programs, you are already in.

If you enter an ACGME residency, you are not required to do an internship year. This limits you to practicing in certain states, although there are waivers to get past this.

 

[Shodddy18]

This is pretty much the same as the traditional rotating internship that many MD's enter upon graduation.

 

[OSUdoc08]

This is pretty much the same as the traditional rotating internship that many MD's enter upon graduation.

I don't know where you are getting your information, but there are no ACGME traditional internships. You enter residency your PGY-I year.

 

[DrMom]

I don't know where you are getting your information, but there are no ACGME traditional internships. You enter residency your PGY-I year.

Actually, if you look on FREIDA there are 129 transitional year programs listed.

 

[DeLaughterDO]

Actually, if you look on FREIDA there are 129 transitional year programs listed.

Agreed - many ACGME residencies (GAS, some EM, etc) require a separate internship year before starting the residency in PGY-II.

These are typically called "transitional" internships, rather than "traditional" internships, however. This may be the source of the confusion here.

🙂

 

[Shodddy18]

I don't know where you are getting your information, but there are no ACGME traditional internships. You enter residency your PGY-I year.

Who made you the expert on everything? I suggest you recheck your information. They refer to this as a "transitional year."

http://www.challiance.org/medicine_res/transition_year.shtml

Here is one link to a Harvard internship so you can better educate yourself 😉

 

[DrFeelgoodDO]

Actually, if you look on FREIDA there are 129 transitional year programs listed.

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[DrFeelgoodDO]

Who made you the expert on everything? I suggest you recheck your information. They refer to this as a "transitional year."

http://www.challiance.org/medicine_res/transition_year.shtml

Here is one link to a Harvard internship so you can better educate yourself 😉

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[drgreeneatutk]

So if you complete med school and get your DO and enter an AOA program, say anesthesia which is a 4 year residency, do you do 1 rotating year then PGY 1-4 more, or is it 1 rotating year plus PGY 2-4? eg. does the rotating year add a year or count as year one?

 

[Taus]

It counts as year one in almost all situations and you go directly to year 2 of residency, except if you do a non-aoa approved internship and never try to get it approved (its not hard to get it approved - proposition 42). However, that will not matter unless you practice in one of the five states that require the aoa internship for licensing (includes PA and 4 others that I can't recall).

 

[DrMom]

FYI: the AOA has become pickier in approving internships under resolution 42. Where they were bascially approving anyone who didn't completely p!ss off the AOA, now they're rejecting applications if the person could've completed an AOA residency in the same specialty in the same geographic area. Just know that they're not rubber-stamping all of them now.

And, yes, it only really matters if you want to work in the 5 states (do a search for the list) or if you want to stay involved in the AOA.

 

[ragda26]

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Hi, i am confused as to why DO's taking an ACGME residency are limited in certain states? This is in response to the post made by this guy below. is his statement true? please let me know, thanks. i dont nmind going the AOA route but it is the first time i heard the ACGME part...
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If entering an AOA residency, you must complete a 1-year internship. This internship can be rotating and seperate from a residency, or it can be a linked or specialty-emphasis internship, which is connected with the residency.

If entering a non-linked internship, you must apply for residency after internship. In linked programs, you are already in.

If you enter an ACGME residency, you are not required to do an internship year. This limits you to practicing in certain states, although there are waivers to get past this.

 

[dr.z]

Who made you the expert on everything? I suggest you recheck your information. They refer to this as a "transitional year."

He attends the "top" osteopathic school. He's gotta know everything.

 

[Shodddy18]

He attends the "top" osteopathic school. He's gotta know everything.

yeah that is the same feeling I get... He never has anything nice to say.

Just goes to show you, no matter where you go or what you do there is always someone that thinks they are better than you and everyone else! Either because of their degree, the school they went to, their specialty... the list goes on. Just be happy where you end up and realize that others are happy where they end up... even if it is not where you are.

 

[Shodddy18]

FYI: the AOA has become pickier in approving internships under resolution 42. Where they were bascially approving anyone who didn't completely p!ss off the AOA, now they're rejecting applications if the person could've completed an AOA residency in the same specialty in the same geographic area. Just know that they're not rubber-stamping all of them now.

And, yes, it only really matters if you want to work in the 5 states (do a search for the list) or if you want to stay involved in the AOA.

Another question for you...

Ok, so I plan to do an osteopathic internship and an AOA residency... hopefully a linked one. But lets say after I do the AOA internship I decide to do an ACGME residency... Do I enter as a PGY 2, or 1? Im guessing it depends on the specific program and their funding... but does anyone have any experience with this?

 

[DrMom]

depends on the program. If it is something like anesthesia that already requires a prelim year, then it may not make any difference. Family med may be fine, but many other specialties/programs will have you essentially start over.

 

[Shodddy18]

depends on the program. If it is something like anesthesia that already requires a prelim year, then it may not make any difference. Family med may be fine, but many other specialties/programs will have you essentially start over.

Thank you muchly 😀