OOS Friendly Public Schools in NY/PA?

[studentofsdn]

I'm a NJ Resident trying to apply around in the NJ, NY, PA area mostly. I don't have stellar stats but good enough to hit the median for most state schools. Anyone know which NY and PA public schools are worth applying to as OOS with median stats?

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[Ace-Co-A]

In Pennsylvania, Temple and Penn State are the schools with large in-state preference, but both schools still take ~50% of their class from OOS. Commonwealth is probably similar, but I am less familiar with that school.

 

[aspirantmed]

The MSAR will give you IS/OOS breakdown of interviews and matriculants. Any school where you don't see a significant disparity between in-state vs. out-of-state interviewees and/or admits (by %, not raw numbers) is a good bet.

 

[darkjedi]

If you are interested in area schools, you should apply to them public or not. SUNY Downstate and Stonybrook are known to accept a decent number of OOS. Being from NJ should not hurt you at Temple either, as they are not explicitly a state school.

 

[studentofsdn]

Ok, sounds like SUNY Downstate, Stony, Temple, and Penn State are all good bets. Also I will make the investment in MSAR, seems like its worth it. Thanks a lot!

 

[Ace-Co-A]

Ok, sounds like SUNY Downstate, Stony, Temple, and Penn State are all good bets. Also I will make the investment in MSAR, seems like its worth it. Thanks a lot!

Good luck.

Ironically, the acronym of your name is SOS. I think that this is a fitting message for anyone who relies on this website.

 

[supermintyfresh]

NYMC is also a non-state school based in Valhalla, NY that you can look into. Drexel in Philly is like Temple in that it accepts a few OOS. Albert Einstein in the Bronx, NY (might be more of a reach depending on your stats). Hofstra North Shore-LIJ is a relatively new medical school that you can also check out -- it's new, but the North Shore-LIJ health system is huge in New York so it's already off to a great start.

 

[Patros]

Step 1, get the MSAR. It's the most valuable $20 you will spend for admissions purposes. You can find how many OOS students apply and how many get into each school.

For NY: New York Medical College, Albany Medical College, Hofstra-LIJ have relatively lower average stats (3.6-3.7 GPA, and 30-32 MCAT). Also consider Albert Einstein and U. Rochester, possibly as reaches. I would not advise the SUNY schools unless you have strong connections to NY. Stony Brook does take a decent number of OOS, but you will need higher than average stats.
For NJ: Apply to all the state schools.
For PA: Drexel, and Temple are your best bets. Jefferson may be worth it, but they prefer Delaware residents.

Also, I would seriously recommend applying to other lower-stat private schools in many east coast states. Consider Georgetown and George Washington U in DC, and Tufts in Boston.

 

[chenzt]

Step 1, get the MSAR. It's the most valuable $20 you will spend for admissions purposes. You can find how many OOS students apply and how many get into each school.

For NY: New York Medical College, Albany Medical College, Hofstra-LIJ have relatively lower average stats (3.6-3.7 GPA, and 30-32 MCAT). Also consider Albert Einstein and U. Rochester, possibly as reaches. I would not advise the SUNY schools unless you have strong connections to NY. Stony Brook does take a decent number of OOS, but you will need higher than average stats.
For NJ: Apply to all the state schools.
For PA: Drexel, and Temple are your best bets. Jefferson may be worth it, but they prefer Delaware residents.

Also, I would seriously recommend applying to other lower-stat private schools in many east coast states. Consider Georgetown and George Washington U in DC, and Tufts in Boston.

Only for a few seats (forget how many, but they do serve as delaware's quasi-state school with those seats), and IS/OOS is like 30-70 split.

 

[studentofsdn]

Thanks a lot for your input guys, especially about NYMC and the DC and Boston schools. I will probably apply to almost all of those. As for having strong connections to NY for SUNY schools, what constitutes a strong connection? My entire maternal extended family lives in Queens and I frequent there, would that hold any weight?

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

Good luck.

Ironically, the acronym of your name is SOS. I think that this is a fitting message for anyone who relies on this website.

No, it would be SOSDN.

 

[Endure]

I agree with everyone's advice.

RWJ, Cooper and NJMS are going to be your best bet. It's worth mentioning that NJMS sprints through the application cycle and is becoming increasingly MCAT-centric, so be sure to get your application in early. Their class was filled by Thanksgiving this year.

You should be grateful that you live in a medically concentrated area. In NYC, you have Downstate and Einstein; in NYS, you have Upstate, Stony Brook, Albany, Hofstra, NYMC and Buffalo. In PA, you have Jefferson, Drexel, Temple, TCMC and PSU. However, I wouldn't ignore upper-tier schools if you feel like you're a good fit for them. If you have a demonstrated interest in academic medicine or research, for example, spit-balling an application to NYU, Pittsburgh or Weill might be worth a shot. As you'll find out soon enough, the application process is full of surprises.

You should be aware that lower-ranked private schools in the area receive an absurd amount of applications (10k+). Also, while obviously biased towards IS applicants, the SUNY's are significantly more OOS friendly than other state schools. SBU specifically mentioned this on interview day.

 

[studentofsdn]

I agree with everyone's advice.

RWJ, Cooper and NJMS are going to be your best bet. It's worth mentioning that NJMS sprints through the application cycle and is becoming increasingly MCAT-centric, so be sure to get your application in early. Their class was filled by Thanksgiving this year.

You should be grateful that you live in a medically concentrated area. In NYC, you have Downstate and Einstein; in NYS, you have Upstate, Stony Brook, Albany, Hofstra, NYMC and Buffalo. In PA, you have Jefferson, Drexel, Temple, TCMC and PSU. However, I wouldn't ignore upper-tier schools if you feel like you're a good fit for them. If you have a demonstrated interest in academic medicine or research, for example, spit-balling an application to NYU, Pittsburgh or Weill might be worth a shot. As you'll find out soon enough, the application process is full of surprises.

You should be aware that lower-ranked private schools in the area receive an absurd amount of applications (10k+). Also, while obviously biased towards IS applicants, the SUNY's are significantly more OOS friendly than other state schools. SBU specifically mentioned this on interview day.

Thanks for the advice! I'm planning on getting my amcas out latest by 2nd week of June. Looking at the MSAR mcat/gpa ranges are really deterring me from all of the research focused institutions, especially NYC, even though that is what I truly desire to do. I'll only have about a year of research w/ no pubs under my belt after this semester, you think it'll be worth it to apply to some at all?

 

[Endure]

Thanks for the advice! I'm planning on getting my amcas out latest by 2nd week of June. Looking at the MSAR mcat/gpa ranges are really deterring me from all of the research focused institutions, especially NYC, even though that is what I truly desire to do. I'll only have about a year of research w/ no pubs under my belt after this semester, you think it'll be worth it to apply to some at all?

I need to know your MCAT and GPA to determine whether or not research-intensive schools are within reach. One year of research is obviously not that long, but if you love it and can explain it enthusiastically in your writing and interviews, I don't see it being a problem. People are going to care about why what you did interests you, what you gained from the experience, and why it shaped your career path. If research is the centerpiece of your application like it was mine, it will probably be the most frequently discussed activity during interviews.

I didn't mention this before, but there are a number of mid-tier schools that emphasize research. The best example I can think of is Stony Brook. It continues to climb the rankings because of its growth in research and was one of my top choices in the fall for this reason.