OOS residents getting in-state after 1st year

[monwilli]

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No state will claim me as a resident, but I've been fortunate to be accepted at two state schools. I was reading a finaid website at one of the schools and it seems like it is possible to switch from OOS to IS after one year. Anybody do been there, done that?

 

[CTtarheel]

It's very much state specific. I know its impossible in some states (Mass), and easier in others. This is definitely something to ask the financial aid people at your interview or to ask before you make a decision. Also make sure you ask HOW COMMON this is in addition to whether or not it's possible. Again, because some schools/states are very strict about giving in-state tuition.

 

[Touchdown]

In Ohio it can be done quite easily. Alls you have to do is transfer your plates, get an Ohio lissence, not accept any help from out of state, and pay rent for a year; also voting helps your cause.

 

[DoctorFunk]

Definitely state specific. In Wisconsin it's downright impossible without buying land and establishing residence prior to school for at least 6 months. I even married a lifelong WI resident just prior to matriculating here and I still can't claim state residency for tuition purposes throughout my 4 years.

 

[Law2Doc]

No state will claim me as a resident, but I've been fortunate to be accepted at two state schools. I was reading a finaid website at one of the schools and it seems like it is possible to switch from OOS to IS after one year. Anybody do been there, done that?

Agree with the others that it is state specific. Some schools let you become a resident in one year. Some never really let you become a resident because you have to be living there for X years for purposes other than educational.

 

[vtucci]

Did it twice in Florida- once for law school, once for med school. You need to get all the paperwork in on time but all 5 OOS in my class are now instate.

 

[Gabujabu]

Does anyone know what the situation is like for California? I'm interested in UCSF. Thanks!

 

[monwilli]

I'm specifically looking at NC. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Supercluster]

not sure about those states, but I know it's very easy in New York to switch after 1 year

 

[Writer1985]

I'm specifically looking at NC. Any help would be appreciated.

Very easy in NC. At my UNC interview, they said you have to change your license and permanent residence and file NC taxes for 1 year, and that's it.

 

[psipsina]

Does anyone know what the situation is like for California? I'm interested in UCSF. Thanks!

When I interviewed at UCLA they said this would be possible, but I'm not sure if it was dependent on the fact that my husband and I would be setting up a permanent household and he would be working and thus paying state income taxes each year. I know it is a possibility in CA but am not sure of their specific requirements.

 

[confused48]

In Ohio it can be done quite easily. Alls you have to do is transfer your plates, get an Ohio lissence, not accept any help from out of state, and pay rent for a year; also voting helps your cause.

So does this mean you have to be entirely self-supporting (or self-indebted ) for the year? Or just more than half self-supporting. Any $$ from Mom and Dad and it is no go?

 

[Touchdown]

^Im in the process of doing this but my understanding is that in order to qualify your parents cant claim you as a dependant on tax forms, and you have to be able to file your FAFSA stating that none of your support is coming from your parents.

 

[confused48]

^Im in the process of doing this but my understanding is that in order to qualify your parents cant claim you as a dependant on tax forms, and you have to be able to file your FAFSA stating that none of your support is coming from your parents.

It must be easy to do as this was sort of blown off as "standard procedure" during interviews at OSU. In addition, they do not even list "Non-resident" tuition after MS1 as an option. Not taking ANY $$ from parents is kind of rough though--that could mean something as simple as being covered by their health insurance, them paying car insurance, etc. If they provide less than 1/2 of support then they cannot claim as a tax-deduction but less than 1/2 is a long way from 0. Is it your understanding that the 0$ follows through after you become a resident as well?

 

[ICCONFETTI]

anyone know what it's like in PA?

 

[Touchdown]

Confused it is my understanding that after the first year it doesnt matter, but once you break the chain of being a dependant of your parents and a student, your parents insurance will not cover you after 18. And as for it being standard procedure, heard the same thing here in Toledo too, the only person I have heard had a problem with it is a guy who listed parent gifts on his FAFSA.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Not only is it state specific, but it is also school-specific. Where I live, I lived in the state for 8 years, and they still made me petition for residency just because I moved here 8 years ago for graduate school (educational intent for moving here in the first place). They gave me resident tuition, mind you, but I had to fill out a lot of paperwork. Another school in this state just went by what I had declared. There are a lot of cases I know where a school has given special consideration to a student for recruiting purposes. Texas is a good example where they are kind to newcomers.

If you are military or married to a resident, it will make a big difference.

OP, maybe I missed this, but why are you a person with out a state?

To people still interviewing, don't say, "Yeah I'd only come here if you considered me as a state resident. Medical school is not a good investment if you have to pay 40K a year for tuition."

The main thing that I can tell you is that if you are going to a state school, they will spell out their residency definition for you, most likely on their website.

Just to throw a little diversity into the discussion, most of Big 12 country is "non-resident if you didn't go to high school here until proven otherwise, and even then, you better have some damn good proof."

I find it ironic that they want you to prove that you intend to state there if you come from oos, but there is no such expectation for the 80% of the class who are in-state.

It is this reason specifically that I support a federal driver's license in which there is a uniform policy throughout the country for residency determination. Under current rules, you could potentially be a resident of multiple states or no states. AMCAS makes you claim a single state, but I had a school challenge me during the interview process and kicked me out of their pool. I was like, "Well that's great, you should tell whatever state you think I belong to that I am in-state there."

 

[confused48]

Confused it is my understanding that after the first year it doesnt matter, but once you break the chain of being a dependant of your parents and a student, your parents insurance will not cover you after 18. And as for it being standard procedure, heard the same thing here in Toledo too, the only person I have heard had a problem with it is a guy who listed parent gifts on his FAFSA.

So, if I understand you, you must take 0$ from your parents years 1 and then after that, it is free game? So, one could conceivably take all loans for year 1 and then have parents pay all/most for years 2-4? Coverage on parents insurance depends on the policy--some allow you to continue well beyond 18 for a variety of reasons.

 

[Law2Doc]

Under current rules, you could potentially be a resident of multiple states or no states. AMCAS makes you claim a single state, but I had a school challenge me during the interview process and kicked me out of their pool. I was like, "Well that's great, you should tell whatever state you think I belong to that I am in-state there."

Actually under current rules you can only be resident to one state, but may have the ability to engineer which one that is going to be. You are on thin ground if you assert multiple state residencies -- you have to choose one. You absolutely can be resident of no states though, if the state to which you have most significant ties has impediments to residency- The couple of states which require multiple years of residency for purposes other than academic come to mind.

 

[Wizard of Oz]

Actually under current rules you can only be resident to one state, but may have the ability to engineer which one that is going to be. You are on thin ground if you assert multiple state residencies -- you have to choose one. You absolutely can be resident of no states though, if the state to which you have most significant ties has impediments to residency- The couple of states which require multiple years of residency for purposes other than academic come to mind.

Yeah I meant to say it that way, it just didn't come out right.

Also be careful if you are applying to TMDSAS schools. I hear that they check with AMCAS to make sure that you aren't double-dipping.

Best advice during the application (again I'm off the topic since the OP is already in)--put all of your chips on one table. Don't tell two schools that you are in-state if they are in different states. It backfired on me (but I got it flipped on appeal where I matriculated).

 

[CTtarheel]

Very easy in NC. At my UNC interview, they said you have to change your license and permanent residence and file NC taxes for 1 year, and that's it.

I'm not sure its quite that straight forward. I've definitely heard stories of people getting denied (though more for undergrad than professional school). I know its possible though, and certainly hope its that easy!

 

[monwilli]

Not only is it state specific, but it is also school-specific. Where I live, I lived in the state for 8 years, and they still made me petition for residency just because I moved here 8 years ago for graduate school (educational intent for moving here in the first place). They gave me resident tuition, mind you, but I had to fill out a lot of paperwork. Another school in this state just went by what I had declared. There are a lot of cases I know where a school has given special consideration to a student for recruiting purposes. Texas is a good example where they are kind to newcomers.

If you are military or married to a resident, it will make a big difference.

OP, maybe I missed this, but why are you a person with out a state?

To people still interviewing, don't say, "Yeah I'd only come here if you considered me as a state resident. Medical school is not a good investment if you have to pay 40K a year for tuition."

The main thing that I can tell you is that if you are going to a state school, they will spell out their residency definition for you, most likely on their website.

Just to throw a little diversity into the discussion, most of Big 12 country is "non-resident if you didn't go to high school here until proven otherwise, and even then, you better have some damn good proof."

I find it ironic that they want you to prove that you intend to state there if you come from oos, but there is no such expectation for the 80% of the class who are in-state.

It is this reason specifically that I support a federal driver's license in which there is a uniform policy throughout the country for residency determination. Under current rules, you could potentially be a resident of multiple states or no states. AMCAS makes you claim a single state, but I had a school challenge me during the interview process and kicked me out of their pool. I was like, "Well that's great, you should tell whatever state you think I belong to that I am in-state there."

I am pretty much set on UNC (go heels!)... I love the school, people, and the area. I was raised in NC, went to college there but left for graduate school. I married while away (military wife) and though I kept my NC license and registrations, I never paid state taxes while I was away. ALso, while applying my husband and I moved to SC (long story.. iknow). So its understandable why I'm not considered in-state. I was just trying to see how easy it would be to get in-state, or if its even possible. It doesn't matter though, my heart is set on UNC😍

 

[wiki23]

I interviewed at UCSF and you can become a resident of CA after 1 year and get in state tutition!

 

[zimmie256]

anyone know what it's like in PA?

I'm curious about PA too... Does anybody have info?

 

[chh81]

I'm curious about CT. I grew up there, my parents are there, I lived there over the summerm, but now I'm in MA, which doesn't consider me a resident as far as med. school...