options if you don't do residency

[karennags]

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What options currently exist if someone doesn't want to do a residency?
I couldn't find a recent post on this subject, but I may have not looked in the right places.

 

[CopperStripes]

Take a look in Med Business in the Interdisciplinary Forums sections. There's lots of good info in there. Here are a few general ideas:

- management consulting;
- pharmaceutical or medical device industry and contract research organizations (R&D, medical affairs, or drug safety);
- various research positions at universities;
- medical writing;
- physician support for EMR go-lives.

If you're willing to do just an internship, you may be able to find work in urgent care or other clinical positions that don't require board certification.

 

[Psai]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aelbardissi

This guy hated residency so much that he quit twice

 

[Bancrofti]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aelbardissi

This guy hated residency so much that he quit twice

What a waste. That's the NY Med guy right?

 

[CopperStripes]

What a waste. That's the NY Med guy right?

Why is it a waste? He probably learned a ton, and is obviously doing quite well for himself now. He may not be using everything he learned in residency, but I bet it influences his work. Saying it was a waste is like saying it's a waste to go to a restaurant and not finish your entire meal. Eating part of your meal can be delicious, satisfying, and nutritious. And it might be part of a meaningful social experience.

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

Jesus; Mayo med school, Stanford residency, Brigham fellowship, HBS. Nice bro.

 

[mimelim]

I couldn't understand why there was so much stigma attached to people that came into programs as a PGY3/4. Then I met several. Almost universally personality issues to the max. There are definitely people that move because of random life stuff, but multiple times is a HUGE red flag.

 

[Microshaft]

he should've picked a shorter residency program so he can at least call himself board certified

or maybe he would just rather forget the whole med thing and focus on investing

 

[VisionaryTics]

See it's funny. I consider it decidedly unimpressive (or at least throws up flags left and right) that he had the protoplasm to obtain these positions, but was unable to complete any of them.

And to clarify from the timing, he had a general surgery residency at BWH that he didn't complete. Then there was a one year gap of unclear reason. Then he started a CT fellowship (again presumably a 4+3 hybrid position) at Stanford, and left that after less than a year.

When he was at Stanford, he was listed as a PGY1 in the six year integrated residency. You can see here that there is only one PGY2 since he left.

So he essentially started over at Stanford. It wasn't a fellowship.

 

[Apoplexy__]

I couldn't understand why there was so much stigma attached to people that came into programs as a PGY3/4. Then I met several. Almost universally personality issues to the max. There are definitely people that move because of random life stuff, but multiple times is a HUGE red flag.

There was this guy who transferred into a local residency program and was just a universal dbag. He came up in discussion because this resident went on some rant about what a lying and incompetent person my attending was to one of my attending's patients...without ever meeting my attending.

Word got back, and well...karma bites.

 

[Winged Scapula]

What options currently exist if someone doesn't want to do a residency?
I couldn't find a recent post on this subject, but I may have not looked in the right places.

Have you looked in the General Residency forum? There are tons of threads there about not doing/not finishing residency.