Oral Surgeon?

[PreDent21]

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does any one know how long it takes to become a oral surgeon after dental school?
also, how much does a oral surgeon get paid during and after residency?
thanks!

 

[UCLAzy]

1. Nobody really knows..oral surgeons are semi-god human centaurs, but they rarely speak to normal humans like us.
2. They are paid in lump sums by the tooth fairy (again, details are unknown, but ~$1 per tooth).

 

[Vicviper]

Haha, always the awesome poster Lazy.

1) As you'll read below with information from USU24, there are a variety of different programs, ranging anywhere from possibly 4-6, and many lead to an MD degree. (Thanks for the update Armor)
2) As you'll read below with information from Quattro DMD, it really depends on the program, and what years you are in school vs. clinical.

 

[Quattro DMD]

Haha, always the awesome poster Lazy.

1) Most programs are about 6 years after Dental school and you end up with an MD degree
2) I'm fairly sure most of the programs require you to pay, instead of getting a stipend.

Most of the programs pay you a stipend for the years that your not in med school. So you would get stipend for years 1, 4, 5, and 6. Years 2 and 3 you'll be in med school and may or may not have to pay tuition (it depends on the program).

 

[USU24]

There are also some 4 year oral surgeon residencies but you don't get an MD (you still do the same stuff though). I actually think there might be a couple of 3 year ones but I'm not sure on that. As far as getting paid I have no idea. It depends on the residency. Look, by the time you get around to doing an oral surgery residency I think the last thing you care about is how much you will be paid during your residency. You're already in debt, they're probably not going to be paying you enough to live on let alone live like an oral surgeon, plus you are more concerned with getting a good residency than getting a good stipend, at least you should be.

 

[Vicviper]

Most of the programs pay you a stipend for the years that your not in med school. So you would get stipend for years 1, 4, 5, and 6. Years 2 and 3 you'll be in med school and may or may not have to pay tuition (it depends on the program).

Interesting, you learn something everyday! I was told you didn't get paid on the school based residencies, but you do for hospital/clinical based, and I guess if you're doing hospital/clinical years that would make sense that you would get paid for those.

 

[DrReo]

Haha, always the awesome poster Lazy.

1) Most programs are about 6 years after Dental school and you end up with an MD degree
2) I'm fairly sure most of the programs require you to pay, instead of getting a stipend.

Stop writing false information on SDN.

 

[Vicviper]

I do apologize for any incorrect information. I gave the information to the best of my knowledge, as it had been described to me by dentists and in my experiences at dental schools.

In speaking with residents at Columbia I was told that Ortho and OMFS were the two specialties that you normally have to pay for. Also, every OMFS program I had seen had led to a MD and was 6 years, and I had heard of 5 year military residences. When I found out by the other posters in this thread about my error, I quickly acknowledged it. It's not as though I'm attempting to trick people, and my intentions are to use the information that I've gained in the last year or so to help those with similar questions to those that I had.

I do my best to only comment on something that I think I have useful information for, and I don't intend to make a habit of giving incorrect information. Very often I use qualifiers to signal that I'm not 100% certain of the information I'm giving, such as "I'm fairly certain..." . In another thread I believe I was talking about transcript verification procedures and I may have been incorrect, and if so, I'm always more than happy to acknowledge that, but the information I gave was to the best of my knowledge, and my interpretation of the AADSAS instructions.

 

[JamesOSU]

Stop writing false information on SDN.

Stop being so touchy on SDN.

 

[phospho]

There are also some 4 year oral surgeon residencies but you don't get an MD (you still do the same stuff though). I actually think there might be a couple of 3 year ones but I'm not sure on that. As far as getting paid I have no idea. It depends on the residency. Look, by the time you get around to doing an oral surgery residency I think the last thing you care about is how much you will be paid during your residency. You're already in debt, they're probably not going to be paying you enough to live on let alone live like an oral surgeon, plus you are more concerned with getting a good residency than getting a good stipend, at least you should be.

out of curiosity, is it harder to do oral surgery coming out of medical school instead of dental school? Do you still have the option to even do oral surgery if you didn't go to dental school?

 

[preOMFS]

out of curiosity, is it harder to do oral surgery coming out of medical school instead of dental school? Do you still have the option to even do oral surgery if you didn't go to dental school?

It is harder to do OMFS out of med school because you are required to have a dental degree and there are no shortcuts in dental school (i.e. you cant skip the first two years like Dentists do in OMFS MD programs.)

Also, there are two programs that offer a 5 year MD program: Nebraska and Case.

 

[armorshell]

out of curiosity, is it harder to do oral surgery coming out of medical school instead of dental school? Do you still have the option to even do oral surgery if you didn't go to dental school?

You have to have a DDS/DMD to be an oral surgeon, but there are a few programs (UAB is one) that will accept applicants with MD's and have them do a 7 year combined DDS/OMFS program similar to the way a DDS applicant does a 6 year MD/OMFS program.

 

[armorshell]

There are also some 4 year oral surgeon residencies but you don't get an MD (you still do the same stuff though). I actually think there might be a couple of 3 year ones but I'm not sure on that. As far as getting paid I have no idea. It depends on the residency. Look, by the time you get around to doing an oral surgery residency I think the last thing you care about is how much you will be paid during your residency. You're already in debt, they're probably not going to be paying you enough to live on let alone live like an oral surgeon, plus you are more concerned with getting a good residency than getting a good stipend, at least you should be.

No 3 year programs...yet

 

[phospho]

It is harder to do OMFS out of med school because you are required to have a dental degree and there are no shortcuts in dental school (i.e. you cant skip the first two years like Dentists do in OMFS MD programs.)

Also, there are two programs that offer a 5 year MD program: Nebraska and Case.

You have to have a DDS/DMD to be an oral surgeon, but there are a few programs (UAB is one) that will accept applicants with MD's and have them do a 7 year combined DDS/OMFS program similar to the way a DDS applicant does a 6 year MD/OMFS program.

That's very interesting, thank you for the info...🙂

 

[doc toothache]

I do apologize for any incorrect information. I gave the information to the best of my knowledge, as it had been described to me by dentists and in my experiences at dental schools.

God forbid we should verify the info before posting.

 

[jdwmont]

Is that five year at University of Nebraska? I thought Case had the only program like that.

 

[preOMFS]

It is definitely a 5-year program at Nebraska. The OMS I work for went there and he said he loved it. They changed from 6 to 5 years in the middle of his training, which was a pretty sweet turn of events for him.