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Organic chemistry poll
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Easiest class ever. A in Orgo I and II.
Then vote in the poll!! 😀 I'm in orgo 1. Just got my first test back, got a stupid A- (92.)
Oh, nvm you did🙂
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👍 Maybe its just me but dont you cover some basic OChem topics in molecular biology?
Idk, a lot of people complain about it for some reason.
I took gen chem 1&2 last year. You could probably take them at the same time, but having gen chem has made the first few weeks of organic pretty easy. We haven't gotten into reactions yet, so I wouldn't know about that, but I think it would be ok.
I don't know, I haven't taken molecular yet. That monster is for next semester lol.
A in both...
Hardest pre-req sequence, IMO.
...Not from a conceptual standpoint -- just the amount of problems that had to be churned through and multi-level synthesis/mechanisms. Essentially, purely useless memorization of things that really don't need to be known for success in medicine [besides maybe a couple concepts for biochem]. It felt like a year of jumping through a hoop.
I see. Well, so far my calc based physics class was far more time consuming and ridiculous than ochem *so far* and everyone considers that a "hoop" as well. How does ochem compare to physics in difficulty and workload?
I think its hard for people who lack good visual/spatial reasoning skills. If you are capable of visualizing 3D structures in your head and rotating them around in your head, you should do fine. I honestly thought the intro Bio courses were harder to get As in because of the straight up memorization and tricky multiple choice exams.
A in both... Ahem,
Hardest pre-req sequence, IMO.
...Not from a conceptual standpoint -- just the amount of problems that had to be churned through and multi-level synthesis/mechanisms. Essentially, purely useless memorization of things that really don't need to be known for success in medicine [besides maybe a couple concepts for biochem]. It felt like a year of jumping through a hoop.
I felt like it was more visual memorization than verbal memorization. Again, everyone's brain works differently but for me memorizing shapes is easier than memorizing words.
Okay cool. So Ochem should be comparatively "easy" to my physics class then. Man, I worked my butt off in that class. Every single problem on the exams were challenge problems. I generally took about 4 hours to complete mine, but one girl stayed for 5.5hrs on one test.
My first ochem test lasted about an hour.
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It also matters a lot on your school..at my school..it's insanely difficult (ranked very high in the best undergrad chem department in the country)..while the state school beside us have ridiculously easy chem dept...I've a friend who got A+ while he's a C student at my uni..so yeah.
What school do you go to if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, I'm staying away from that calbased crap. Ima algebra that badboy.😎
My physiology and microbiology teachers are freaking insane with the multiple choice!
I mean, I took a test today for micro (yes, lame saturday class) and she literally had 8 choices to choose from on several different questions. What's the point of having a multiple choice test in that situation?
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No. Sounds pretty average.Next semester Im taking physics, another bio, cal and another chem all with labs on top of research. Its all about time management. You will probably breeze through yours tho.
Ya, and I hate when they say you can choose as many answers that are correct so it can be any combination of choices.
Also, what textbook do you use? Who's the author?
My schedule first semester of sophomore year and grades:
Calc based physics: A-
General chemistry 1: A-
Genetics: A+
Psychology: A+
World civ: B
Second semester
Calc based physics 2: A
Bioinformatics: A-
Gen chem 2: A-
Cell bio: A
Crit reading/writing: A
I'd say if I can get As in all of my prereqs for this year, you could take genchem and physics at the same time too. I think the second semester nearly killed me.. I wouldn't recommend 4 science classes at once. one week I got a total of 20hrs of sleep.
haha, I would much rather a short answer test... at least that way I don't have to muddle through what may or may not be right.
I go to a private uni so basically I pay out of the nose to get tortured with the material.
I remember for my ochem final, to prove a point, I deliberately smoked a fat joint right before and proceeded to receive the highest score and correct an error on the exam.
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Totally agree, the physics sections on the MCAT seem like cake after last year. I would rather get a B in ochem and get a 13 too.
Haha, so you are encouraging the use of a PED then??? :O
Well, organic chemists invented PEDs. just sayin...
Haha, ya know, in hindsight, that may have saved me some sleepless nights. Oh well, my teacher was really good, so it made it a tad easier. But seriously, each chapter's homework took us 5 hours to complete. Needless to say, I am very glad that it's over.
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A dull comment is pointless.
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A- in the first exam isn't bad at all. Just keep working hard and you will do even better. Orgo II depends a lot on orgo I so make sure you ace orgo I and understand it really well.
I honestly thought all the undergraduate courses taken so far were easy except for microbiology followed by molecular biology, even though I still have a 4.0 GPA meaning I made A's in them too. Honestly, it all depends on who you have as a professor and the professor is most likely the reason for you to hate or like the subject.
Awesome! Yeah, the EM portion was pretty killer. I liked it, but I swear, if you look in my physics book you will see hair sticking out of it. No lie lol.
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Okay cool! Yeah, I think my problem was actually anxiety. I missed several points that I shouldn't have. So far I have been doing well with the material, so I guess I just need to settle down on test day.
That is so true. I tend to like the subject so much more when the teacher actually enjoys teaching about it.
My ochem teacher is sooooo monotone, but he is pretty good and likes to get the class involved. Although, I don't know what's going on with my classmates. The class avg on our first exam was a 65.. which is pretty bad, I'd say. So who knows, maybe I just like monotone teaching styles.
LOL well when the class average is low and you are doing well, that's extra better for you. What I don't get is that how come 92 was an A- while the class average was just 65? When something like that happens in my classes, usually professors either curve or lower the grading policy. For example, one professor might raise 5 points for all students while the other might make the A just 88 or 85...etc.
A lamp is not the only sign of glass. The lamp and the cake are not the only sign of stone. The lamp and the cake and the cover are not the only necessity altogether.
(Gertrude Stein, Tender Buttons)
Yeah, he mentioned something about curving the course. I don't know if he really will. It may depend on the outcome of the next test. I got the highest grade in the class and it was just a 92.. I don't really care about the actual number as long as:
1. I understand the material
2. I get an A in ochem
Haha, so we'll see. 🙂
Yea if you are in the top of your class no matter what grade you get, then hopefully you will get the A. Just keep doing your best and good luck!
"MS" stand for Mississippi State? This would make sense
. My point being that orgo is hard for most people...
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LOL I don't get why people can't know what MS would stand for. MShopes stands for Medical School hopes. Simple huh?
Lol no, more than one person have seriously asked me what it stands for. One of them said it stands for Master's and asked me if I have a master's degree lol. And yea I got your joke now. Seriously though, my professor is the reason I loved organic chemistry and thought it's the easiest class ever even though he was hard as hell.
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I agree - my professor was a huge factor in my success in ochem! He loved his subject material, it was so obvious. And his positive energy reflected well on the students! Myself included.
Classes very quite a bit between undergraduate institution and professors within the institution. My first semester was enjoyable. My second semester was standardized and not as enjoyable. It depends.
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4 science classes at once isn't so bad. i did well in 3 of my classes but didn't do so well in physical chem. but if you have labs to accompany those classes, it sucks because writing lab reports is surprisingly time consuming.
Lecture is nothing difficult, in fact for the most part it's actually like a game.
Lab is a different story.
Lab is a different story.
