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hi, im starting my first ortho rotations in june and have 3 after, i was wondeirng what are some good ortho books to get so i dont look like a fool during rotations, also cuz i wanna learn this stuff too
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DOindahouse said:
hi, im starting my first ortho rotations in june and have 3 after, i was wondeirng what are some good ortho books to get so i dont look like a fool during rotations, also cuz i wanna learn this stuff too
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hey DO... i don't know any good books, but i wanted to just wish you good luck man! also, if you have a pda there is an "ortho 5mcc" that i saw on skyscape.com when buying the general 5mcc- i don't know how useful it is, but it may be worth looking at. where did you decide to do your rotations anyway, just curious
 

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don't worry about ortho 5mcc. It is not the most helpful. What you need is a good fracture pocketbook, Handbook of Fractures is by far the most used. An anatomy book, netters orthopaedic anatomy is a great pocket book, but any will do. After those, hoppenfelds physical exam of the spine an extremeties and orthopaedic surgical exposures are great books, but will probably be available in the library.
 
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thanks all, keep it coming
im rotating at genesys, st james, riverside in cali, and southpoint, all osteo ortho places,

if anyone has any info on any or any other tips please let me know
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Make sure to know your ortho anatomy cold before all the cases. Like the previous poster stated, Netter's anatomy, esp. the ortho one, is key. Hoppenfeld's musculoskeletal exam book is good as well. If you have more time, there is an older book called essentials of orthopedics that is a good read for beginners (only bad part is there are no new editions...the only one is from 97). Know those books and you will be fine.
 

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its more like a fragmented phrase, :)

wheres teh best place to buy these?

and if any of u are doing osteopathic ortho, or have done it, when did u take step 2
 

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Memorize "The Big Book of Dirty Jokes" and the measurements of the last six Playboy Playmates.

(I couldn't resist ...I'm so evil!)
 

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not quite sure what it is about ortho that brings about the insecurities of others (see lame attempts at jokes above).

MANDATORY READING:

Netter's Concise Atlas of Orthopaedic Anatomy
-No one cares if you know what the steps are in an arthoscopic repair of a torn cuff, what they do care about is that when they say "What's this?" you know what the answer is. I repeat, YOU MUST KNOW YOUR ANATOMY. Everything else is secondary.

SECONDARY READING:

I really liked Essentials of Orthopaedic Surgery by Wiesel. It pretty much covers everything, but very superficially. Don't waste your time with Miller or any of the books made for residents; you do not need to be at that level.

Oh, and in case you ever get pimped about it, the eighteen muscles that attach to the scapula are:

Cuff (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, subscapularis), teres major, rhomboid major, rhomboid minor, latissimus dorsi, levator scapulae, trapezius, biceps brachii long, biceps brachii short, corocobrachialis, deltoid, pec minor, triceps (long), serratus anterior, and the one everyone misses....the omohyoid.​
 

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Yes, who are you people who can crack wise at ortho? You insignificant low-lives! Don't you know they are gods amongst men? And you are dogs amongst cats? Poor, pathetic peons, cower like the plebes you are, for yea I can hit bones really hard with a hammer! And thou canst but watch in vain, for you are not chosen among us. Retreat to thine homes, poor bastards, and cry for you are not ...orthopaeods (please note the 'ae').

soudes, I humbly beg your forgiveness. And I shall stop 'doing' your wife while you are at work.
 
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soudes thanks for the info, i am gonna check these out,
are u in a program, if so which one,
any other advice, thanks
 
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Yes, who are you people who can crack wise at ortho? You insignificant low-lives! Don't you know they are gods amongst men? And you are dogs amongst cats? Poor, pathetic peons, cower like the plebes you are, for yea I can hit bones really hard with a hammer!

:laugh: :laugh:

Great post!
 

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oh snap, is wayne brady gonna hafta get out this car and choke a b&*@h?

listen you weasely, scrawny, hairy-palmed, pimple-faced pathetic losers:

i'm sorry that you only got 198 on step one, and that has left you with the only choice of matching in a field with hundreds of open spots every year.

what i find so amusing is that it is impossible for you jealous ******s to stay out of posts that don't concern you (eg a thread titled "ortho books"). You don't see us wandering through your meaningless posts about colorectal surgery (insert standard orthopods don't know how to read joke here). i was simply making a post to help out a student interested in ortho, and you cockroaches scurry out and post your weak array of lame-ass ortho jokes.

look, you guys can call us stupid all you want. we don't care. As a group we probably average a board score well over 230, and we are more well rounded than that (insert standard dumb former jock joke here). But I don't need to justify ortho or myself to the likes of you.

in this crazy, uncertain world we live in today, i don't know what scares me more: threats from overseas, or that fact that i might get appendicitis and see you and your below average board score wielding a blade over me.

oh and by the way, my "wife" says to stop coming around because she is tired of faking it. She says your one inch worm is really sad and just doesn't do it for her.

Her new motto is: Once you go ortho, you never go back.
 

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Yes, who are you people who can crack wise at ortho? You insignificant low-lives! Don't you know they are gods amongst men? And you are dogs amongst cats? Poor, pathetic peons, cower like the plebes you are, for yea I can hit bones really hard with a hammer! And thou canst but watch in vain, for you are not chosen among us. Retreat to thine homes, poor bastards, and cry for you are not ...orthopaeods (please note the 'ae').

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:thumbup: :thumbup:

damn that was good!!

kinetic..u rock!

p.s. NEVER forget the ae!!!!
 

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ok kids, this is an ORTHO books post, and if u want to expand it, make it into a legit ortho info./ advice thread,

i dont know if u guys are just joking with each other, or not, but lets just keep it to the topic, i aint got time for no damn foolishness.

if there are any DO orthos out there to, who havent already been incontact with me, i do invite any advice u have, thanks
 

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This is a fine display of ortho vs. gen surg playa hatin'. I invite all of you to join me in the playa hataz ball on the general residency thread. Since I am going into gensurg, I am a little biased... but I will hold back and see what these new gen surg hataz and ortho hataz have to offer.
 
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oh snap, is wayne brady gonna hafta get out this car and choke a b&*@h?

...

Oh and by the way, my "wife" says to stop coming around because she is tired of faking it. She says your one inch worm is really sad and just doesn't do it for her.
OK, these come-backs are even better than the original insult! :laugh: :thumbup:
 

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Oh for F-CUKS sake, if u guys are gonna use this thread to rip each other, all good

but on the conditin u leave some good advice for me, either in the way of ortho books, how to get a residecny besides the obvioius, application stuff and interview stuff.
and if u ar DO's then for sure, comlex 2 info and just anything knowlegable
thanks kids
 

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DOindahouse said:
Oh for F-CUKS sake, if u guys are gonna use this thread to rip each other, all good

but on the conditin u leave some good advice for me, either in the way of ortho books, how to get a residecny besides the obvioius, application stuff and interview stuff.
and if u ar DO's then for sure, comlex 2 info and just anything knowlegable
thanks kids

F-CUK?? Are you talking about French Connection UK? I think the Secrets series is a good set of books. I am only going into lowly general surgery, but I did a plastics/hand surgery rotation and secrets had everything you would want as a student, resident, and fellow. They had all the obscure anatomy you needed as well as the rational for each procedure, it's history and alternatives for treatment. You should check out ortho secrets. It might be everything you are looking for. It is pretty cheap as well, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea about DO ortho, as I'm allo. Your 4 away rotations should help you. When you are doing aways, it is basically a 28 day job interview, so you really need to be on the ball. Work your ass off, read with all of your freetime and try not to burn out. 4 back to back is grueling. I did 4 surgical subIs and I did burn out towards the end. Luckily my last one was in Hawaii.
I wouldn't schedule your top choices as your first or last subIs as these might not be where you are at your best. On the other hand I've heard ortho rotations are chiller then gensurg subIs.

Now back to the hatin! How many orthopods does it take to screw in a light bulb? Two, one to recognize that the bulb is burnt out who then refers it to an orthopod who only screws in light bulbs and does nothing else.

What do you call ortho microsurgical scissors? Suture scissors.

What is an orthopods idea of floor management? Moonlighting in a casino in Vegas.
 

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Hello everyone. You may seen this post on other forums. If so, I apologize. I am trying to reach someone who can help me out. I am currently a first year at VCOM (the new osteopathic school). If there is anyone reading this that has experience with military ortho surgery, please help. Everyone tells me that it is next to impossible to score the AF ortho residency at Lackland because of an average of approximately 4 open spots per year. Is this true? What are the types of things that I should be doing now (besides studying for Step 1) to make myself more competitive? People also tell me that I need to show my face and establish contacts at the residency. How is this possible with just one residency location? I plan doing an ADT at Keesler this summer, but I don't think I will meet any connections during that time. Please help....
 

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AirForcePre-DO said:
Hello everyone. You may seen this post on other forums. If so, I apologize. I am trying to reach someone who can help me out. I am currently a first year at VCOM (the new osteopathic school). If there is anyone reading this that has experience with military ortho surgery, please help. Everyone tells me that it is next to impossible to score the AF ortho residency at Lackland because of an average of approximately 4 open spots per year. Is this true? What are the types of things that I should be doing now (besides studying for Step 1) to make myself more competitive? People also tell me that I need to show my face and establish contacts at the residency. How is this possible with just one residency location? I plan doing an ADT at Keesler this summer, but I don't think I will meet any connections during that time. Please help....
I would recommend ortho research, followed by an ADT at the Airforce ortho residency early in your 4th year. Bust your ass for this ADT and they might like you enough to let you in. I'm not sure how the air force works with GMOs getting seniority for residency. You may want to check that out as all three branches are different.
 
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