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Ortho match list?
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I was looking through some DO school's math list and most of them had at least 3-4 (sometimes even more) students matching ortho every year. Is there a reason why ortho is DO friendly whereas other surgical specialties aren't like ENT and ophthalmology?
3-4 students out of what...260?
Ortho is not DO friendly and is only going to get worse. Also you have more people willing to apply to ortho from DO schools.
From my school we have around 8-10/250 apply ortho per year and only 1-2 apply ENT (if that).
Ahhh, interesting. I didn't realize the class size was that large
Not all class sizes are, but we matched 3 into ortho this year and there are around 250 in the class.
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There are a good amount of AOA ortho programs around compared to other surgical specialties so that offers some yield protection and that's why you see ortho matches every year (as supposed to ICT or IPS or NSX matches which is quite rare).
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AnatomyGrey12
There are a disproportionate amount of AOA ortho spots compared to other AOA subspecialties. Don't let that fool you, ortho is about as competitive as it gets for DOs, especially with the merger.
Ortho DO is just as competitive as ortho MD. Most established DO schools have a handful that match ortho, which is quite similar to MD school ortho matches.There are a disproportionate amount of AOA ortho spots compared to other AOA subspecialties. Don't let that fool you, ortho is about as competitive as it gets for DOs, especially with the merger.
Quick google search gave me this for 2017
Northwestern - 5
Brown - 2
UPenn - 8
Yale - 1
Columbia - 5
Boston U - 6
UMichigan - 6
TCOM - 5
KCU - 3
CCOM - 7
AZCOM - 3
WesternU - 3
LECOM - 8
The point is, ortho is extremely competitive for both MD and DO, but still attainable for DO. And as mentioned above, many DO schools don't have optho, derm, or plastics residency programs. This is one reason why you don't see many DOs matching in these fields.
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AnatomyGrey12
Yeah, I was surprised with LECOM having so many matches because I live in FL and ortho really interested me since I am a scribe for an ortho clinic and one of the doctors who practices in the clinic graduated from LECOM.
Wouldn't the competition be less fierce in matching with DO since based on this forum, DOs are less stellar students compared to their MD counterpart, given the lower stats required to get admitted? I'm just a pre med who's about to graduate soon so I really don't know much besides the information and discussions posted on this forum.
Remember that LECOM includes all campuses, so that 8 ortho matches out of around 800. Don't underestimate how competitive the best DO students date, because that is who you are competing with for ortho spots. With the merger you now have to compete with MDs as well.
DOs are less stellar students compared to their MD counterpart, given the lower stats required to get admitted?
536 but who's counting?Remember that LECOM includes all campuses, so that 8 ortho matches out of around 800. Don't underestimate how competitive the best DO students date, because that is who you are competing with for ortho spots. With the merger you now have to compete with MDs as well.
You won't be getting compared to only DOs anymore. You will also have to compete with MDs as the merger will be in full effect by the time you graduate. There won't be any protected DO only spots anymore.
Do not kid yourself into thinking that the competitiveness of this (or any) field is about the same as a DO or an MD.
Do not kid yourself into thinking that the competitiveness of this (or any) field is about the same as a DO or an MD.
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AnatomyGrey12
536 but who's counting?
Ah but 800 sounds better 😉 I accidentally added an extra campus lol
haha maybe in the future. hopefully notAh but 800 sounds better 😉 I accidentally added an extra campus lol