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Anybody have any experiences of programs that allow 2 weeks auditions and it working out?
Program: Northwell Health's Plainview Hospital
General: One of the first DO programs to get ACGME accreditation. There are four major sites of the program: Plainview, Huntington, Valley Stream, and Northshore. Plainview is considered the home base and you spend most of your time here as a pgy-1, but not much as 2-5. As a 2-5 you primarily rotate through Huntington, Valley Stream, and Northshore. Huntington is a busy level 2 with good trauma and elective cases. Valley stream just had a huge renovation and has become the main surgical site for the Orlin and Cohen group, so less trauma but great attendings and elective cases. Northshore is a level 1 trauma center with some great trauma. Main sites are a little spread out but allows for some great surgical experiences.
Attendings:10/10. Probably one of the highlights of the program. As you get to work at some of the major sites in the Northwell network, you get to work with some great attendings. Giles Scuderi is a huge name in the joints literature and invented the Zimmer knees. Stanley Asnis is a big name in joints and was instrumental in cannulated hip screws. Sgaglione is a huge name in sports. The list goes on and on. Each site has either Northwell attendings or private groups that you work with.
Residents: 9/10. If you look at past posts, this program has a history of being malignant. This is no longer the case. The group of residents currently there are super tight, down to earth and normal. It's a pretty big program with 30 residents in total, but they definitely have the surgical volume to handle this number of residents. After ACGME accreditation they started taking MDs and have two classes that are split MD/DO (PGY-1 and PGY-2).
Didactics: 8/10. Some form of daily didactics with orthobullet questions or reviewing papers. Formal didactics are on Tuesdays with resident-led lectures and fracture conferences. Residents usually go to a bar down the street afterwards.
Operative Experience: 8/10. Good balance of big-wig outcome driven attending who teach you the procedure and community based surgeons who let you fly. Residents were on par with all other programs I went to.
Research: 8/10. With big wig attendings definitely comes research. Many of the residents have published and presented papers all over.
Lifestyle: 7/10. This is a busy program so you do work a ton, but that's what you want during residency. Sign out occurs sometime between 6 and 6:30. The interns and call person are expected to have rounded and completed their notes by then. After sign out there is usually some form of education with either going through papers or orthobullets. Formal didactics occur on Tuesdays in one block and comes in the form of resident-led education primarily by the 2's and 3's.
Pros:
- A large number of attendings many of whom are prestigious
- Access to Northwell facilities such as their research center etc
- Good fellowship matches
- Great location on Long Island
- Good mix of attendings
- No major out rotations, all rotations are on the island
Cons:
- Long Island Traffic
I would avoid McLaren Oakland. ... is racist, sexist, and verbally abusive. When she is upset, which is nearly all the time, she will threaten to kick you out of residency and make sure you never go anywhere else because medical directors in Michigan know each other.
1. The only positive thing about this hospital is that they are very flexible with residents struggling with alcohol and drugs. A graduate got a DUI as an intern, failed a drug test WHILE AT WORK, assaulted a coworker, and hoarded controlled substances prescribed to other patients in his locker (I don't think the board knew about the last one). They will adjust your call schedule so you can go to your AA, NA, and anger management meetings.
2. If you're related someone at the hospital you can get into any program you want. Who cares if you failed step 1 a few times as long as you're related to .. lap dog .... Here's the Ortho spot that should've gone to someone more qualified.
3. Not friendly toward residents of Middle Eastern deacent. After working a 30 hour shift my friend was clearly tired, but ... called him a terrorist and asked him if he was plotting to bomb the hospital. In front of patients.
4. This is not a safe place to work as a female. When a female resident was sexually harrassed by an attending, she made the mistake of telling her program director (instead of HR) who told .... .. told the resident if she told anyone she would "end her." She also told her to "stop being a w**** and keep her legs closed." The attending who groped her was promoted. There's also another attending who takes his residents to strip clubs.
5. If you're African American make sure you have thick skin. She throws around the word "n*****" around very causally.
I would avoid McLaren Oakland. ... is racist, sexist, and verbally abusive. When she is upset, which is nearly all the time, she will threaten to kick you out of residency and make sure you never go anywhere else because medical directors in Michigan know each other.
1. The only positive thing about this hospital is that they are very flexible with residents struggling with alcohol and drugs. A graduate got a DUI as an intern, failed a drug test WHILE AT WORK, assaulted a coworker, and hoarded controlled substances prescribed to other patients in his locker (I don't think the board knew about the last one). They will adjust your call schedule so you can go to your AA, NA, and anger management meetings.
2. If you're related someone at the hospital you can get into any program you want. Who cares if you failed step 1 a few times as long as you're related to .. lap dog .... Here's the Ortho spot that should've gone to someone more qualified.
3. Not friendly toward residents of Middle Eastern deacent. After working a 30 hour shift my friend was clearly tired, but ... called him a terrorist and asked him if he was plotting to bomb the hospital. In front of patients.
4. This is not a safe place to work as a female. When a female resident was sexually harrassed by an attending, she made the mistake of telling her program director (instead of HR) who told .... .. told the resident if she told anyone she would "end her." She also told her to "stop being a w**** and keep her legs closed." The attending who groped her was promoted. There's also another attending who takes his residents to strip clubs.
5. If you're African American make sure you have thick skin. She throws around the word "n*****" around very causally.
I have back-to-back 2-week rotations coming up at McLaren Macomb and Beaumont-Farmington Hills. Would it be better to cancel one and turn one into a 4-weeker?
Without giving away too many specifics, I rotated there and saw similar actions from this program. I wouldn’t go slut shaming them online but there is an environment not too far off of what that poster describes there.I rotated there and had no such experience. I can't verify your story, but I can say that from personal experience I had a wonderful experience at that program and the residents I worked with were some of the nicest and most collegial individuals I met on the trail. I would have been very happy to match there. Not to mention they had a fantastic fellowship match list, decent volume, and a die-hard PD that would go to the end of the world and back for his residents and for the osteopathic profession in general.
Without giving away too many specifics, I rotated there and saw similar actions from this program. I wouldn’t go slut shaming them online but there is an environment not too far off of what that poster describes there.
Sorry, not willing to divulge specifics, I want to keep it professional. Good luck with everyone's upcoming cycle!There is a resident who’s related to one of the administrators. There was a previous resident who was related to a general surgeon. So I guess you can say that there’s some nepotism, which I agree is not professional. But they are not the only program in this predicament. I can point out pretty much every DO program that at some point has trained a legacy. Not saying it’s right, but it was a good ole boy system, and that’s that.
Everything else that was said is totally unwarranted, I have many friends who trained there and all liked their experience. The Program has trained many minorities, including middle eastern, south asian, and women, as far back as the nineties. Can you point out what any specifics?
I rotated there in 2018 we only had 5-6 students on and still 1/2 of us spent the day in the library studying hoping something come up. I would normal attribute this to having too many students on and not enough doctors. However it seemed the residents themselves did not have much time in the OR as well. Most of them were done by early afternoon. It was apparent in one of their seniors at the time that he had not had enough operating experience as he struggled and was not adequately prepared for a fairly straight forward procedure. All of the attendings and residents were great to work with, but I would just be concerned on how prepared you would be coming out of residency.Any information on McLaren Macomb?
I rotated there in 2018 we only had 5-6 students on and still 1/2 of us spent the day in the library studying hoping something come up. I would normal attribute this to having too many students on and not enough doctors. However it seemed the residents themselves did not have much time in the OR as well. Most of them were done by early afternoon. It was apparent in one of their seniors at the time that he had not had enough operating experience as he struggled and was not adequately prepared for a fairly straight forward procedure. All of the attendings and residents were great to work with, but I would just be concerned on how prepared you would be coming out of residency.
I'm trying to decide between an audition rotation at Valley Hospital in Modesto and Jack Hughston. I have a USMLE score of 247 and low COMLEX 1 (536). With my board scores what would be the smarter place to audition at as they are both giving me the rotation in the same time frame. It will also be my first rotation in Ortho.
I have a pretty solid USMLE Step 1, but my COMLEX is only a little bit above the average. Any idea on how osteopathic ortho residencies would view this?
Mid 240s USMLE, around 570s COMLEX