Osteopathic transitional years

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Could anybody give me any help with? I am an osteopathic student who matched to a the only program on my rank list that did not include PGY1, will any osteopathic transitonal years count as a preliminary year?
 
Timmyjones said:
Could anybody give me any help with? I am an osteopathic student who matched to a the only program on my rank list that did not include PGY1, will any osteopathic transitonal years count as a preliminary year?

talk to your program.. if you match at a transitional program.. all your electives might have to be in IM or some type of medicine subspecialty..
 
AznTrojan-MS said:
talk to your program.. if you match at a transitional program.. all your electives might have to be in IM or some type of medicine subspecialty..

What is the transitional / preliminary year is AOA approved and not ACGME approved?
 
An ACGME PG-1 is required to be ABMS BC in neurology.

Timmyjones said:
What is the transitional / preliminary year is AOA approved and not ACGME approved?
 
Timmyjones said:
Could anybody give me any help with? I am an osteopathic student who matched to a the only program on my rank list that did not include PGY1, will any osteopathic transitonal years count as a preliminary year?

this post is answered below
 
Timmyjones said:
Could anybody give me any help with? I am an osteopathic student who matched to a the only program on my rank list that did not include PGY1, will any osteopathic transitonal years count as a preliminary year?

By completing an osteopathic internship, you are certified by the osteopathic board of neurology & psychiatry. In order to be certified by the allopathic board, you must have completed an allopathic internship. The only reason why this matters is if you are planning on doing a fellowship. If you are certified by the osteopathic board, you can only have osteopathic fellowships and the only osteopathic neurology fellowship offered is in clinical neurophys (EMG/NCS/EEG). Hope this info helps! Good luck!
 
You must do six month of internal medicine to sit for ABPN exam. It does not have to be six months of wards, for example, my schedule for my intership year:

ID
Neurology Ward
ER
Gen Surg
CCU
FP
Vasc Surg
PED
ICU
Med Ward
Rheumatology
OB/GYN
Med Ward

So, as you can see, ID,CCU,ICU, 2 blocks of med ward, and Rheum is 6 months of internal medicine. The rest of my blocks cover everything I need to qualify for AOA internship.

Talk to the intern director and they can help you out, as long as you get six months of internal medicine or medicine specialties, you are set
 
Just to reiterate, you MUST do an ACGME approved internship to sit for the ABMS neurology boards. An AOA intership will not suffice...even if you complete all the rotation requirements. As one of the other posters noted, an AOA internship will allow you to sit for the osteopathic neurology boards but NOT the ABPN boards.
 
Is there a list anywhere or a search engine? Most sites never mention it even when I have heard from people on SDN that the internship is dual accredited.

If there is not an official list, can those that know of some please list them?
 
Three dually accredited internships in MI:
Bicounty
Providence
Sparrow

(Maybe henry-ford wyandotte, MI)

I think I remember hearing of a few more as well (in other states), but am not sure where they were. A couple of years ago when I was interested in the same questions there was NO resource which listed the dually accredited programs. There was some discussion on SDN, but I can't remember the entire list. It would be a great thing to have on the osteopathic FAQ.

The question as to where are the dually accredited transitional/internship years might better be answered under the clinical rotation forum or the osteopathic forum.

As was stated above if you are doing "MD" residency you need the "MD" (ACGME) transitional year/internship year. The "DO" (AOA) version does not suffice. The exact requirement are on the ABPN website. I think this requirement is for neurology only. I'm not aware of other specialties that require a transitional year that stipulate and ACGME requirement, however as I already said I am somewhat out of the loop on this.

You always have the option of simply trying to find a transitional year and then limiting yourself from practicing in those five states that require an osteopathic internship.

Good luck.


EDIT:
Also, have you called your program director and asked if you might take a first year spot in their IM department? Sometimes people are willing to work with you.
 
stochastic said:
Is there a list anywhere or a search engine? Most sites never mention it even when I have heard from people on SDN that the internship is dual accredited.

If there is not an official list, can those that know of some please list them?

You can search for dually accredited programs here:
http://opportunities.aoa-net.org/search/index.cfm

Do an Advanced Search, at the bottom of the screen you will find a small check box that allows you to select for "Dual AOA/ACGME accredited Programs" only.

Good luck.
 
stochastic said:
Is there a list anywhere or a search engine? Most sites never mention it even when I have heard from people on SDN that the internship is dual accredited.

If there is not an official list, can those that know of some please list them?

EDIT: computer glitch, sorry about the duplicate post.
 
Hi there, can someone please tell me how difficult it is to obtain an allopathic PGY1 from a DO graduate? I am hoping to be a board certified neurologist from ABPN not osteopathic board.
moya moya said:
By completing an osteopathic internship, you are certified by the osteopathic board of neurology & psychiatry. In order to be certified by the allopathic board, you must have completed an allopathic internship. The only reason why this matters is if you are planning on doing a fellowship. If you are certified by the osteopathic board, you can only have osteopathic fellowships and the only osteopathic neurology fellowship offered is in clinical neurophys (EMG/NCS/EEG). Hope this info helps! Good luck!
 
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