OSU-COM vs AT Still (KCOM)?

[gold98]

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Aside from the obvious location difference, what are the major pros and cons when these schools are compared to each other?

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

OSU without a question. More research and better known state-wise. Go to kcom only if you're an omm enthusiast.

 

[st2205]

Disagree with the OMM enthusiast part, but the biggest difference you're going to find would be cost. OSU significantly cheaper. Or at least when I applied 5 years ago. Tulsa probably a more reasonable city.

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

Disagree with the OMM enthusiast part, but the biggest difference you're going to find would be cost. OSU significantly cheaper. Or at least when I applied 5 years ago. Tulsa probably a more reasonable city.

I thought they had a stronger omm program? I may be misinformed.

 

[st2205]

I thought they had a stronger omm program? I may be misinformed.

They do. Perhaps I misunderstood your post and interpreted it to mean that it's more OMM heavy than necessary if it's not your thing. If so, my bad.

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

They do. Perhaps I misunderstood your post and interpreted it to mean that it's more OMM heavy than necessary if it's not your thing. If so, my bad.

You make a good point. Looking back, my word choice was poor.

 

[user3]

imagine how much easier the "where do you go to school" question will be if you choose OSU

 

[DoctorKrieger]

For OSU:

Tuition: ~22k OK resident, ~43.5k OOS.

OSU has its own teaching hospital, I don't believe any other DO school can say this. This comes in handy when it's time for residency apps.

Tulsa is a metropolitan area, this may be a pro or con depending on your personality and preferences.

Associated with a major research university. This would be beneficial if you are interested in research opportunities. Also student ticket prices if you're into college sports (~$300 for season tickets to every sport, but that requires making the trip to Stillwater).

A big plus to me is the small class size of 115 students.

Tons of opportunities for those that want to do rural medicine.

Orange is the happiest color.

Cons for OSU:

No more Goljan (not really a con, just a disappointment).

Very difficult for non-residents to be accepted (about 10% of the class is OOS).

 

[DoctorKrieger]

imagine how much easier the "where do you go to school" question will be if you choose OSU

And there's that, lol

 

[gold98]

For OSU:

Tuition: ~22k OK resident, ~43.5k OOS.

OSU has its own teaching hospital, I don't believe any other DO school can say this. This comes in handy when it's time for residency apps.

Tulsa is a metropolitan area, this may be a pro or con depending on your personality and preferences.

Associated with a major research university. This would be beneficial if you are interested in research opportunities. Also student ticket prices if you're into college sports (~$300 for season tickets to every sport, but that requires making the trip to Stillwater).

A big plus to me is the small class size of 115 students.

Tons of opportunities for those that want to do rural medicine.

Orange is the happiest color.

Cons for OSU:

No more Goljan (not really a con, just a disappointment).

Very difficult for non-residents to be accepted (about 10% of the class is OOS).

How many hours of OMM do students do per week. Is OSU one of the more intense OMM DO schools? Thanks for the info!

 

[SurgeDO]

For OSU:

Tuition: ~22k OK resident, ~43.5k OOS.

OSU has its own teaching hospital, I don't believe any other DO school can say this. This comes in handy when it's time for residency apps.

Tulsa is a metropolitan area, this may be a pro or con depending on your personality and preferences.

Associated with a major research university. This would be beneficial if you are interested in research opportunities. Also student ticket prices if you're into college sports (~$300 for season tickets to every sport, but that requires making the trip to Stillwater).

A big plus to me is the small class size of 115 students.

Tons of opportunities for those that want to do rural medicine.

Orange is the happiest color.

Cons for OSU:

No more Goljan (not really a con, just a disappointment).

Very difficult for non-residents to be accepted (about 10% of the class is OOS).

i had no idea Goljan was a professor at OSU. that would have been reason enough to attend OSU.

 

[DoctorKrieger]

i had no idea Goljan was a professor at OSU. that would have been reason enough to attend OSU.

Yep, taught for many years and recently retired. Definitely a bragging point for the school.

 

[coolingglasses]

I would've loved to have gone to Oklahoma State, straight up.

 

[Lost Vagus]

KCOM is a great school but the location was a total deal breaker for me. Way too small for me. Also, I didn't like how much time the students are required to be in OMM labs. I believe they have four hour labs twice a week (which is double the amount of time at my school). Also, they don't have a curve! ahhhhhhh!

Either school is great, but I would personally pick OSU. It's a really well known school in a bigger city with more opportunities for research. Good luck with your decision

 

[Roxas]

So is the general consensus that any state DO school > any private DO school? I get that they're cheaper and in OSU's case they have a hospital, but aren't schools like PCOM, CCOM, DMU, KCOM just as good?

 

[user3]

So is the general consensus that any state DO school > any private DO school? I get that they're cheaper and in OSU's case they have a hospital, but aren't schools like PCOM, CCOM, DMU, KCOM just as good?

read this from costales (TCOM grad)--

The big state DO schools have an inherent advantage, and I believe they play a role in protecting the DO degree in the eye of the public and looking after their graduates. They share the same ecosystem within the state with the other state universities, including access to some resources. Faculty and staff are government employees and supported by an entrenched bureaucracy, politicians and alumni throughout the state. They can self-perpetuate and influence policy in the same way as the state MD schools.

 

[st2205]

KCOM is a great school but the location was a total deal breaker for me. Way too small for me. Also, I didn't like how much time the students are required to be in OMM labs. I believe they have four hour labs twice a week (which is double the amount of time at my school). Also, they don't have a curve! ahhhhhhh!

OMM is 2 hours twice a week, unless something has drastically changed.

So is the general consensus that any state DO school > any private DO school? I get that they're cheaper and in OSU's case they have a hospital, but aren't schools like PCOM, CCOM, DMU, KCOM just as good?

Yes. I think it's a lot easier to feel you're at a more "traditional" school if it's big and has a somewhat recognizable name. It would be a lot easier to say you go to MSU, OU or OSU than to explain where Kirksville is or why Midwestern University is in Arizona.

 

[NMDO]

OSU has OMM Lab 2 hours once a week, with lecture 1 hour a week. No more Goljan, but you still have all of his lecture recordings from 2012-2013, his board review from 2013, and his study questions for each unit, plus if you're lucky you will get to see him doing curls in the gym.

Having a hospital across the street is also nice, especially since there is a residency in just about every specialty there.

 

[gold98]

OSU has OMM Lab 2 hours once a week, with lecture 1 hour a week. No more Goljan, but you still have all of his lecture recordings from 2012-2013, his board review from 2013, and his study questions for each unit, plus if you're lucky you will get to see him doing curls in the gym.

Having a hospital across the street is also nice, especially since there is a residency in just about every specialty there.

I know that classes are mandatory at OSU and that the curriculum was recently changed. What does a typical day look like for a M1 at OSU?

 

[coolingglasses]

KCOM is a great school but the location was a total deal breaker for me. Way too small for me. Also, I didn't like how much time the students are required to be in OMM labs. I believe they have four hour labs twice a week (which is double the amount of time at my school). Also, they don't have a curve! ahhhhhhh!

Either school is great, but I would personally pick OSU. It's a really well known school in a bigger city with more opportunities for research. Good luck with your decision

Two hour labs twice a week, on average. Less if you take the split labs into account. Nobody's sending us to labs eight hours a week.

Coming from someone who had a lot of curved classes in undergrad, no grand-scale curve isn't a big deal either. They'll typically drop certain exam questions if everyone did poorly on them.

Still though, OSU is a great get.