Out of state tuition > 70 K in South Carolina?

[Silo004]

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University of South Carolina -- Greenville is charging over 70K out of state tuition.

http://greenvillemed.sc.edu/financial_tuition.shtml

 

[StoicJosher]

University of Colorado charges over 80K non-resident tuition. What is the point?

 

[235788]

Luckily some schools/states have residency rules that make it so you only pay that the first year. I know ohio lets you change residency during medical school.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

University of Illinois is also extremely expensive for OOS students. Unfortunately, I don't think you can declare residency after a year.

 

[Bro Dude]

University of Colorado charges over 80K non-resident tuition. What is the point?

 

[sirenomelia]

I wonder how they arive at $4200 for OOS room and board for those living with their parents; or for that matter how one could be OOS if their parents live within driving distance of the school? 😕

 

[Chip N Sawbones]

I wonder how they arive at $4200 for OOS room and board for those living with their parents; or for that matter how one could be OOS if their parents live within driving distance of the school? 😕

If their parents just moved to the state or lived in a different state near the border it would be quite possible. Actually living in a state does not equal state residency, unfortunately for me.

 

[MrBird]

People should just not apply to those schools out of state.

 

[notbobtrustme]

South Carolina is doing you a favor by keeping you away.

 

[bassvp]

University of Colorado charges over 53K non-resident tuition. What is the point?

ftfy
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...l-schools/university-of-colorado-denver-04014

 

[StoicJosher]

ftfy
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankings...l-schools/university-of-colorado-denver-04014

I guess I should've said cost of attending - as opposed to tuition alone. 😛

 

[airuike]

Wow. So where does all of that money go? Is the student/faculty ratio 1:1 or something?

 

[thomallama]

Oh noes I wish I knew about this beforehand! 🙄

Greenville is the same as Columbia. They both offer the chance for in-state tuition after you have been a resident for a year. MUSC, on the other hand, does not.

 

[Silo004]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I wonder what the 'real' cost of a medical education really is?

 

[cbrons]

University of South Carolina -- Greenville is charging over 70K out of state tuition.

http://greenvillemed.sc.edu/financial_tuition.shtml

University of Colorado charges over 80K non-resident tuition. What is the point?

This is nothing. You should see what my state public med school charges OOS. (Hint: the number has 4 zeros in it).

 

[rjosh33]

South Carolina is doing you a favor by keeping you away.

Why?

 

[johnisles2011]

You get hosed everywhere if you're out of state at a state school. It's just a little worse at some places. Isn't greenville new?
Also, I think you mean total cost rather than tuition. If their tuition is 70k, then I suppose they're trying to cover the costs of starting up and are sucking in rich kids who can't get in anywhere else.

 

[thomallama]

You get hosed everywhere if you're out of state at a state school. It's just a little worse at some places. Isn't greenville new?
Also, I think you mean total cost rather than tuition. If their tuition is 70k, then I suppose they're trying to cover the costs of starting up and are sucking in rich kids who can't get in anywhere else.

Nope, it's tuition. Total cost is 94k. If you intend to stay in SC, though, the total cost for all 4 years is about on par with many private schools.

 

[Bro Dude]

This is nothing. You should see what my state public med school charges OOS. (Hint: the number has 4 zeros in it).

$10,000?

 

[notbobtrustme]

Why?

err its a ****hole state.

congrats, you just ruined my snarky comment 🙁

 

[StoicJosher]

This is nothing. You should see what my state public med school charges OOS. (Hint: the number has 4 zeros in it).

I hope you meant 5.. Both of those numbers have four zeros...

 

[StoicJosher]

err its a ****hole state.

congrats, you just ruined my snarky comment 🙁

Unless Colbert becomes the president..

 

[link2swim06]

except you get instate as an M2....

so you pay
70K M1 year
30K M2
30K M3
30K M4

plus columbia, SC is cheap to live in.

 

[rjosh33]

err its a ****hole state.

congrats, you just ruined my snarky comment 🙁

My bad, I thought you were adding something useful.

 

[phltz]

The mission of most state schools doesn't include educating out of state students. They're willing to do it if you pay them enough, but it's not what they're there for, and it's not what they want to be primarily doing.

My mission isn't to clean your bathroom. It's not a line of work I want to pursue, and I don't think I would enjoy it. I have plenty of other stuff going on that I do enjoy and/or which furthers my own goals. I could probably be persuaded to clean your bathroom if you offered to pay me, say, $100/hr. Instead of complaining how unfair it is that I charge such an outrageous amount of money for my bathroom cleaning services, I would recommend that you find someone who _is_ in the line of work of cleaning bathrooms, who will probably be willing to do it for a much more reasonable price.

 

[Ebola4Breakfast]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I wonder what the 'real' cost of a medical education really is?

I've heard $100,000/student per year. But take that figure with a grain of salt because it was said in the context of emphasizing the pros of attending a state school. I have no idea if it's correct or inflated.

 

[link2swim06]

I've heard $100,000/student per year. But take that figure with a grain of salt because it was said in the context of emphasizing the pros of attending a state school. I have no idea if it's correct or inflated.

Where would you pay $100K?

 

[MrBird]

OOS tuition for UIC is easily over 100k.

 

[EBTrailRunner]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I wonder what the 'real' cost of a medical education really is?

What I'm more curious about is how a medical school uses a student's tuition. What's that money mostly going toward?

 

[tvelocity514]

To OP, have you heard about the avg gpa/mcat they are accepting there? I know this will be their first year so I was wondering if you have heard anything.

 

[CyberMaxx]

Not to say that there is any adequate justification for such a high OOS tuition, but USC Greenville does have a few good reasons for charging so much.

1. As has been mentioned, they are a brand new medical school which has to deal with start up costs such as equipment and brand new faculty.

2. A large part of the problem has to do with school politics. For a long time SC has had only two medical school, MUSC and USC. Since there are only two schools, they have naturally been a little bit competitive. MUSC, being a more research oriented institution, believes that they are the premier school of the state. The announcement that USC was planning on starting a medical school in the upstate upset a lot of people in the lowcountry who saw this as an expansion of USC and not the creation of an autonomous school. Furthermore, MUSC saw this new school as a challenge to their ascendant position.

Thus, in response to USC's announcement, a lot of opposition came from the lowcountry, making it very difficult for USC to get this new school approved. The primary concern that was raised was that the state could not afford to support another state school. This concern was finally overcome by USC by agreeing to not take any state funds. This policy has made it very difficult for USC Greenville to start up - many believed that they would in fact not be able to start the school at all without this financial support. This situation has resulted in a school which is brand new and very financially vulnerable, a position which makes a high tuition an unfortunate necessity.

 

[thomallama]

Not to say that there is any adequate justification for such a high OOS tuition, but USC Greenville does have a few good reasons for charging so much.

1. As has been mentioned, they are a brand new medical school which has to deal with start up costs such as equipment and brand new faculty.

2. A large part of the problem has to do with school politics. For a long time SC has had only two medical school, MUSC and USC. Since there are only two schools, they have naturally been a little bit competitive. MUSC, being a more research oriented institution, believes that they are the premier school of the state. The announcement that USC was planning on starting a medical school in the upstate upset a lot of people in the lowcountry who saw this as an expansion of USC and not the creation of an autonomous school. Furthermore, MUSC saw this new school as a challenge to their ascendant position.

Thus, in response to USC's announcement, a lot of opposition came from the lowcountry, making it very difficult for USC to get this new school approved. The primary concern that was raised was that the state could not afford to support another state school. This concern was finally overcome by USC by agreeing to not take any state funds. This policy has made it very difficult for USC Greenville to start up - many believed that they would in fact not be able to start the school at all without this financial support. This situation has resulted in a school which is brand new and very financially vulnerable, a position which makes a high tuition an unfortunate necessity.

Greenville is charging the same exact tuition as Columbia. The start-up costs are being absorbed by GHS and some of the "Carolina's Promise" billion dollar private donor fundraising campaign.

 

[Ebola4Breakfast]

Where would you pay $100K?

The poster I quoted asked what the actual cost of attending medical school is, not what a student actually pays.

 

[link2swim06]

The poster I quoted asked what the actual cost of attending medical school is, not what a student actually pays.

Do you mean tuition + cost of living? Or some other calculation?

 

[johnisles2011]

Not to say that there is any adequate justification for such a high OOS tuition, but USC Greenville does have a few good reasons for charging so much.

1. As has been mentioned, they are a brand new medical school which has to deal with start up costs such as equipment and brand new faculty.

2. A large part of the problem has to do with school politics. For a long time SC has had only two medical school, MUSC and USC. Since there are only two schools, they have naturally been a little bit competitive. MUSC, being a more research oriented institution, believes that they are the premier school of the state. The announcement that USC was planning on starting a medical school in the upstate upset a lot of people in the lowcountry who saw this as an expansion of USC and not the creation of an autonomous school. Furthermore, MUSC saw this new school as a challenge to their ascendant position.

Thus, in response to USC's announcement, a lot of opposition came from the lowcountry, making it very difficult for USC to get this new school approved. The primary concern that was raised was that the state could not afford to support another state school. This concern was finally overcome by USC by agreeing to not take any state funds. This policy has made it very difficult for USC Greenville to start up - many believed that they would in fact not be able to start the school at all without this financial support. This situation has resulted in a school which is brand new and very financially vulnerable, a position which makes a high tuition an unfortunate necessity.

Good info. Explains the high starting greenville oos tuition. It's also just kind of interesting to think about how these state school politics work.

 

[Stumpyman]

Do you mean tuition + cost of living? Or some other calculation?

I think what he means is, what it costs a med school to educate a future physician (med student)-- probably not including cost of living

 

[Ebola4Breakfast]

Do you mean tuition + cost of living? Or some other calculation?

I think what he means is, what it costs a med school to educate a future physician (med student)-- probably not including cost of living

Stumpyman got it right. I was answering the question of whether anyone knew how much does it actually cost the school to educate and produce a physician. I was told that, in the academic year 2010-2011, it costs a school over $100,000 per student. I'm not sure if this number varies from school-to-school, but I would assume it's probably fairly consistent given the whole accreditation process keeps everyone in line. I could be wrong. Also, like I said, I have no idea how accurate this number is given that I heard this value in the context of how great state schools are.