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My school is on a H/HP/P/F system. I'm having a very hard time getting H/HP no matter how much time I put into studying. When it comes to residency programs, is the lack of H/HP going to affect my application?

I am interested in med-peds, ob/gyn, or anesth.

Thanks!
 

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If you search, you'll find threads on this topic ad nauseum. It seems to come up every 2-3 days.

I won't spoil the surprise by answering...
 

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You are doomed to a life of mediocrity, most likely in a crappy residency field like med/peds, OB-GYN, or gas.

Oh wait that's what you want to do. You should be fine!
 
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My school is on a H/HP/P/F system. I'm having a very hard time getting H/HP no matter how much time I put into studying. When it comes to residency programs, is the lack of H/HP going to affect my application?

I am interested in med-peds, ob/gyn, or anesth.

Thanks!

This has been addressed several times. Yes, P=MD. That answers your question.

I think you can decipher the rest, like what does MD mean? MD=PCP, FM, etc. So, P=FM, => P=NS =False. Different specialties have different requirements.
 

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My school is on a H/HP/P/F system. I'm having a very hard time getting H/HP no matter how much time I put into studying. When it comes to residency programs, is the lack of H/HP going to affect my application?

I am interested in med-peds, ob/gyn, or anesth.

Thanks!

How you do in the basic science years is not going to be as important as how you do in clinical rotations and on the boards. Do the best you can and don't focus on chances. Of the three fields you have listed, anesthesia is the most competitive. Med-peds is more competitive than either half independently, due to the limited number of programs. Figure out what field you want to go into first, get yourself a good mentor, and then focus on application issues.
 

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I go to a H/P/F school and a lot of people stressed about this so we asked the admin. They don't give out our percentages so a 70 is the same as a 89. And in the end all honoring will do is show up on our deans' letter in one tiny paragraph of a 2-3 page letter where it will say so-and-so satisfactorily completed the basic sciences curriculum and honored blah and blah.

Thats it. I'm sure it varies by school but probably not by much.

It will matter for a few things like optho, derm, ortho, plastics, etc.
 

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I go to a H/P/F school and a lot of people stressed about this so we asked the admin. They don't give out our percentages so a 70 is the same as a 89. And in the end all honoring will do is show up on our deans' letter in one tiny paragraph of a 2-3 page letter where it will say so-and-so satisfactorily completed the basic sciences curriculum and honored blah and blah.

Thats it. I'm sure it varies by school but probably not by much.

yeah, this is the situation at my school as well. I don't really care about what exactly my rank is or that I'm honoring every class. My only real goals are to stay a good 15-20 percentage points above the fail line in all my classes to avoid be stressed out and to learn what I need to learn.
 

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I also go to a H/HP/P/F school and have found that many students stress over the issue of getting HP or H. I have heard too many times that your M1/M2 grades are really not that important. There is too much incongruency between med school grading systems to really be an effective evaluation tool. Your score on the Step 1 exam is an indicaation of how hard you worked during your first two years (or your phenomenal memory). Instead if stressing over grades, stress over the fact that you should enjoy life, because once year 3 begins, you no longer have a life....
 

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The H/NH really only matters in the top-tier residencies where they rely on minutiae to differentiate a slew of applicants who are all very competitive (and thus very homogeneous). If you aren't up to the level of the other applicants (who got H/NH's) that works against you for those highly coveted spots.

For the majority of residencies, not so much. But its always good to inquire to the program director at whatever field you're considering at your school, because different specialties have widely divergent things they look for in applicants. Some consider research a necessity, others want to see good clinical grades, others good board scores, etc.

Either way, it's good practice to always try to shoot for those levels just to make sure you master the material, because there IS a rough correlation between how you do in your BS classes and how well you do on the boards (and yes, I know there are plenty of anecdotes to the contrary, I said rough correlation). There's a slippery slope phenomenon with some who "shoot" just to pass. Some manage it just fine, others are at risk of failing a class or two. And failing a class WILL hurt you for residency if you don't make it past remediation and have to repeat a year. But don't tear yourself up and think you're sacrificing your future if you end up amassing mostly P's. In the grand scheme of things, any deficiencies in your BS grades can be readily overcome by good board scores/clinical grades/LORs for the vast majority of programs.
 
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