pa vs. med

[damvinhhungday]

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If I want to study primary care, what school should I go to? I mean pa school is shorter but teachs everything we learn in med school. But I don't mind going to med school either.

 

[Kelevra]

"Teaches everything we learn in med school"...May Jesus be upon you this Easter to help you out in the reckoning you've summoned.

 

[mimelim]

If I want to study primary care, what school should I go to? I mean pa school is shorter but teachs everything we learn in med school. But I don't mind going to med school either.

#1 One does not 'study' primary care.
#2 While there are certainly overlap between professions and they function often in the same environment, MD and PA are completely different degrees and completely different training pathways.
#3 PA school is shorter than medical school.
#4 PA school does not teach you everything you learn in medical school, in the same way that medical school does not teach you everything you learn in PA school.
#5 Being a PA is not a "lesser MD" or a "primary care MD" etc. It is simply a different profession. It is about as similar to being an MD as being a lawyer is. Actually, I would say that other than functioning in the same environment, there are more parallels with being a lawyer as an MD.
#6 From your question, you don't know anything about either PA school or medical school. You should do some shadowing to learn some basics and while doing that, do a little bit of your own research online or by searching this website. We can certainly help clarify things, but you have no more functional knowledge than a middle schooler and it is incredibly inefficient for people to try and explain things in full to you.

 

[Glandzburg]

If I want to study primary care, what school should I go to? I mean pa school is shorter but teachs everything we learn in med school. But I don't mind going to med school either.

Lol.

But seriously, there are countless variables that go into choosing your career path, how are we supposed to help you with the non-existent information that you have given us?

 

[breakintheroof]

#1 One does not 'study' primary care.
#2 While there are certainly overlap between professions and they function often in the same environment, MD and PA are completely different degrees and completely different training pathways.
#3 PA school is shorter than medical school.
#4 PA school does not teach you everything you learn in medical school, in the same way that medical school does not teach you everything you learn in PA school.
#5 Being a PA is not a "lesser MD" or a "primary care MD" etc. It is simply a different profession. It is about as similar to being an MD as being a lawyer is. Actually, I would say that other than functioning in the same environment, there are more parallels with being a lawyer as an MD.
#6 From your question, you don't know anything about either PA school or medical school. You should do some shadowing to learn some basics and while doing that, do a little bit of your own research online or by searching this website. We can certainly help clarify things, but you have no more functional knowledge than a middle schooler and it is incredibly inefficient for people to try and explain things in full to you.

I am very impressed with the speed with which you composed this post--eight minutes after the OP appeared!

Anyway, given that @damvinhhungday joined yesterday and has already started four rather silly threads, I suspect that the jimmies-rustling nature of this post is not an accident.

 

[damvinhhungday]

I'm just trying to express what I and thousands others are questioning but have not found the answer yet. Apology extended if it upsets some.

But seriously, there are countless variables that go into choosing your career path, how are we supposed to help you with the non-existent information that you have given us?

An aquaintance of mine goes to pa school and said it's 80% medicine (less clinical exposure), but the job is 100% similar to internists. So that's why I asked.

#1 One does not 'study' primary care.
#2 While there are certainly overlap between professions and they function often in the same environment, MD and PA are completely different degrees and completely different training pathways.
#3 PA school is shorter than medical school.
#4 PA school does not teach you everything you learn in medical school, in the same way that medical school does not teach you everything you learn in PA school.
#5 Being a PA is not a "lesser MD" or a "primary care MD" etc. It is simply a different profession. It is about as similar to being an MD as being a lawyer is. Actually, I would say that other than functioning in the same environment, there are more parallels with being a lawyer as an MD.
#6 From your question, you don't know anything about either PA school or medical school. You should do some shadowing to learn some basics and while doing that, do a little bit of your own research online or by searching this website. We can certainly help clarify things, but you have no more functional knowledge than a middle schooler and it is incredibly inefficient for people to try and explain things in full to you.

Thank you mimelum for your thoughtful explanations! But you are not right about 6. I'm in college bro.

 

[Hospitalized]

Thank you mimelum for your thoughtful explanations! But you are not right about 6. I'm in college bro.

I would just cut your sentence short with the bold in the future.

This is a life lesson; respect your peers and those who give you advice. You don't always have to agree with someone or prove something. Be mindful of what they are saying and their credentials behind it. Do research online and come up with a conclusion that you are satisfied with, then ask a question here. Your initial question proved you did not do any research beyond the fact that "one takes longer than the other."

 

[DocFarnsworth]

Thank you mimelum for your thoughtful explanations! But you are not right about 6. I'm in college bro.[/QUOTE]

He never said you weren't in college. He said you have the "functional knowledge of a middle schooler" and you not seeing the difference between the two statements kind of strengthens his assertion.

 

[NeuResurgens]

I think the only people who say that PA is the same as medicine are PAs and pre-PAs. I've heard it used to justify "doing medicine without all the hassle." Medicine is far more in depth, and the physician generally has more autonomy in how to treat the patient. There is a wider range of interventions and knowledge associated with physician training.

 

[damvinhhungday]

Thank you mimelum for your thoughtful explanations!

 

[damvinhhungday]

Thank you mimelum for your thoughtful explanations!

But Dr. Mimelum and the others, with all due respect, even though I appreciate your advices, I don't think I deserve the mock at the end of each provision. It's like you give a kid candies and slap him at the end as a compensation.

 

[mimelim]

But Dr. Mimelum and the others, with all due respect, even though I appreciate your advices, I don't think I deserve the mock at the end of each provision. It's like you give a kid candies and slap him at the end as a compensation.

No where in my post did I mock you or anyone else. This seems to be a growing trend, both on SDN and in American society at large. Just because someone doesn't pat you on the back and give you a gold star every step of the way doesn't mean that they are making fun of you or demeaning you in any way. I think that I have a very solid foundation based on your initial post to say, "you don't know anything about either PA school or medical school." Your functional knowledge is that of someone who has not thought about this on your own in any appreciable way, aka functional knowledge of a middle schooler. Would you trust a middle schooler to make a decision that will impact their finances by hundreds of thousands of dollars and take up the next 11-14 years of their life?

I try to avoid going negative on SDN as much as possible as it is virtually never productive. At the same time, I try to be as straight forward and honest as I can, sometimes that requires using analogies that rub people the wrong way and sometimes, depending on someone's circumstances can be quite brutal. I want to impress upon you specifically, you don't know much about either fields, PA or MD. THIS IS OK. THIS IS NORMAL Very few people at your stage actually get it and will make their decisions without understanding what they are doing. Some get lucky and go down the right path, some don't and end up in a less optimal place. I was one of those people that 'got lucky' without really understanding what I was getting into. At the same time, I know dozens of classmates that shouldn't have gone into medical school and if they had known from the get go what they were getting into, they probably would have done any number of other things. Honestly, I think the most important advice I can give is #6 and emphasize that you should investigate both closely before starting down either pathway.

 

[damvinhhungday]

No where in my post did I mock you or anyone else. This seems to be a growing trend, both on SDN and in American society at large. Just because someone doesn't pat you on the back and give you a gold star every step of the way doesn't mean that they are making fun of you or demeaning you in any way. I think that I have a very solid foundation based on your initial post to say, "you don't know anything about either PA school or medical school." Your functional knowledge is that of someone who has not thought about this on your own in any appreciable way, aka functional knowledge of a middle schooler. Would you trust a middle schooler to make a decision that will impact their finances by hundreds of thousands of dollars and take up the next 11-14 years of their life?

I try to avoid going negative on SDN as much as possible as it is virtually never productive. At the same time, I try to be as straight forward and honest as I can, sometimes that requires using analogies that rub people the wrong way and sometimes, depending on someone's circumstances can be quite brutal. I want to impress upon you specifically, you don't know much about either fields, PA or MD. THIS IS OK. THIS IS NORMAL Very few people at your stage actually get it and will make their decisions without understanding what they are doing. Some get lucky and go down the right path, some don't and end up in a less optimal place. I was one of those people that 'got lucky' without really understanding what I was getting into. At the same time, I know dozens of classmates that shouldn't have gone into medical school and if they had known from the get go what they were getting into, they probably would have done any number of other things. Honestly, I think the most important advice I can give is #6 and emphasize that you should investigate both closely before starting down either pathway.

Thank you. Now I understand.

 

[Goro]

It's called "constructive criticism". So grow a thicker skin. I swear, I have some students who are so hypersensitive, that light goes right through them.

But Dr. Mimelum and the others, with all due respect, even though I appreciate your advices, I don't think I deserve the mock at the end of each provision. It's like you give a kid candies and slap him at the end as a compensation.