pass/fail?; honors/pass/fail?

[precisionplus]

Can someone give be the grading systems for the following schools? I'm trying to finalize decisions and I seem to have forgotten what the grading systems were. Is there a centralized list somewhere?

AECOM

Drexel

Georgetown

Harvard

NYMED

Robert Wood Johnson

Rochester

Tufts

UMASS

UPENN

Thanks!

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[Neuronix]

UPenn is P/F for the first 6 months, followed by H/P/F for the next year, and then followed by H/HP/P/LP/F for clinics.

 

[jhk43]

H/HP/P/LP/F for clinics


whats the point of having those grades. as if thats different from a b c d

 

[Neuronix]

Most schools have grades in the clinics. The reason schools have mostly switched from not having grades in the basic science years is because residency directors pretty much don't care how you do in your basic science years. Because it's the clinical grades and letters that really count, most schools keep them in order to establish rank in the class.

 

[jhk43]

Originally posted by Neuronix
Most schools have grades in the clinics. The reason schools have mostly switched from not having grades in the basic science years is because residency directors pretty much don't care how you do in your basic science years. Because it's the clinical grades and letters that really count, most schools keep them in order to establish rank in the class.

like, HP/P/F is okay. but AOA P/Sortahigh P/Normal P/Below average pass/ Low P/Fail is ridiculous.

 

[leavesam]

http://services.aamc.org/currdir/section1/grading1.cfm


this is the aamc website. has lots of infos on schools' curricula and other stuff.

 

[Mr Reddly]

Pass/Fail or equivalent
Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University
Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
Duke University School of Medicine
Harvard Medical School
Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California
Loma Linda University School of Medicine
McGill University Faculty of Medicine
Memorial University of Newfoundland
Mercer University School of Medicine
Morehouse School of Medicine
Mount Sinai School of Medicine of New York University
New York University School of Medicine
Northwestern University, Feinberg School of Medicine
Ohio State University College of Medicine and Public Health
Southern Illinois University School of Medicine
Stanford University School of Medicine
University of Calgary Faculty of Medicine
University of California, Davis, School of Medicine
University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine
University of Chicago Division of the Biological Sciences The Pritzker School of Medicine
University of Connecticut School of Medicine
University of Hawaii John A. Burns School of Medicine
University of Kentucky College of Medicine
University of Manitoba Faculty of Medicine
University of Massachusetts Medical School
University of Michigan Medical School
University of Minnesota Medical School - Twin Cities
University of Missouri-Columbia School of Medicine
University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry
University of Saskatchewan College of Medicine
University of Utah School of Medicine
University of Washington School of Medicine
Washington University in St. Louis School of Medicine
Wayne State University School of Medicine
Wright State University School of Medicine
Yale University School of Medicine

Honors/Pass/Fail or equivalent
Boston University School of Medicine
Brown Medical School
Creighton University School of Medicine
Dartmouth Medical School
Howard University College of Medicine
Joan & Sanford I. Weill Medical College of Cornell University
Mayo Medical School
McMaster University School of Medicine
Michigan State University College of Human Medicine
Ponce School of Medicine
Queen's University Faculty of Health Sciences
Rush Medical College of Rush University
Saint Louis University School of Medicine
Stony Brook University Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
The University of Western Ontario Faculty of Medicine & Dentistry
Tufts University School of Medicine
University of Alberta Faculty of Medicine and Dentistry
University of Arizona College of Medicine
University of Arkansas College of Medicine
University of British Columbia Faculty of Medicine
University of California, Irvine, College of Medicine
University of California, San Diego, School of Medicine
University of Colorado Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Rockford
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Urbana-Champaign
University of Louisville School of Medicine
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill School of Medicine
University of Ottawa Faculty of Medicine
University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
University of Toronto Faculty of Medicine
University of Vermont College of Medicine
West Virginia University School of Medicine

ABCF or Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail or equivalent
Brody School of Medicine at East Carolina University
Drexel University College of Medicine
East Tennessee State University James H. Quillen College of Medicine
Eastern Virginia Medical School
Finch University of Health Sciences/ The Chicago Medical School
George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences
Georgetown University School of Medicine
Indiana University School of Medicine
Louisiana State University School of Medicine in New Orleans
Louisiana State University School of Medicine in Shreveport
Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine
Medical College of Ohio
Meharry Medical College School of Medicine
New York Medical College
Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Pennsylvania State University College of Medicine
State University of New York Downstate Medical Center College of Medicine
State University of New York Upstate Medical University
The Texas A & M University System Health Science Center College of Medicine
The University of Iowa Roy J. and Lucille A. Carver College of Medicine
UMDNJ--New Jersey Medical School
Universidad Central del Caribe School of Medicine
University of Minnesota - Duluth School of Medicine
University of Nevada School of Medicine
University of Puerto Rico School of Medicine
University of South Florida College of Medicine
University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston
Vanderbilt University School of Medicine
Wake Forest University School of Medicine

ABCDF or equivalent
Albany Medical College
Baylor College of Medicine
Emory University School of Medicine
Florida State University College of Medicine
Joan C. Edwards School of Medicine at Marshall University
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine
Laval University Faculty of Medicine
Medical College of Georgia School of Medicine
Medical College of Wisconsin
Oregon Health & Science University School of Medicine
Temple University School of Medicine
Tulane University School of Medicine
UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences F. Edward Hebert School of Medicine
Universite de Sherbrooke Faculty of Medicine
University of Alabama School of Medicine
University of Cincinnati College of Medicine
University of Florida College of Medicine
University of Kansas School of Medicine
University of Maryland School of Medicine
University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Medicine
University of Nebraska College of Medicine
University of New Mexico School of Medicine
University of Oklahoma College of Medicine
University of South Alabama College of Medicine
University of South Dakota School of Medicine
University of Tennessee Health Science Center College of Medicine
University of Texas Medical School at Houston
University of Texas Medical School at San Antonio
University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas Southwestern Medical School
University of Virginia School of Medicine
University of Wisconsin Medical School
Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine

Funky ones
Columbia (1st year is P/F , 2nd year is H/P/F) - per CalbeE

 

[leavesam]

Wow, you rock for spending all that time organizing this list.

 

[precisionplus]

wow, this is great... thanks alot!

 

[CalBeE]

I don't think I see Columbia up there anywhere.

1st year is P/F
2nd year is H/P/F

 

[Maple]

Correction: MCW is Honors/High Pass/Pass/low pass/Fail. I know the op doesn't really care about MCW, but I gotta show support for my school!

 

[jlee9531]

mr red...dont worry about changing it...

the other poster prolly didnt understand the "or equivalent" part.

 

[CalBeE]

Originally posted by Mr Reddly
Columbia... You're right... Must be cuz they're weird.... added to the bottom.

Are you discriminating against New York schools? Where's Cornell Weill? (I don't know about its grading system though)

 

[docmemi]

since your class rank matters for your deans letter, aoa and finally residency, does this whole P/F thing have any meaning??

 

[yaah]

I don't know about other schools, but the above list is wrong for UMass, at least. Years 1-2 are Honors/pass/fail; years 3-4 are outstanding/above expected/expected/below expected/fail.

I posted on this in a thread about UMass in the pre-allo forum.

 

[Neuronix]

Originally posted by yaah
outstanding/above expected/expected/below expected/fail.

LOL! So many ways to explain the same damn thing. Grades.

 

[Catalyst]

Originally posted by CalBeE
Are you discriminating against New York schools? Where's Cornell Weill? (I don't know about its grading system though)

Cornell's pass/fail I believe the first two years

 

[udbluehen]

Starting with my class (class of 2007), UVa is pass/fail for years 1 and 2, with the top 20% overall after the first two years receiving honors. 4th year is also p/f, with grades only in third year.

 

[werd]

Originally posted by Neuronix
UPenn is P/F for the first 6 months, followed by H/P/F for the next year, and then followed by H/HP/P/LP/F for clinics.

just an interesting sidenote... when i was at upenn interviewing, someone asked the dean what the grading system was, and he honestly had no idea. his assistant had to step in and describe it.

 

[Neuronix]

Yeah, we have like 23894723984702374 deans and asst. deans for all sorts of things. The head dean doesn't get very involved with cirriculum. The deans that deal with cirriculum issues should know the grading system, because a contingent of students complain about the H/P/F every year.

 

[Zahri]

Actually I believe Michigan has a P/F system the first year. The second year it switches to a A/B/C/D equivalent (high pass, pass...etc) grading system.

 

[mobius]

i prefer letter grades not pass fail or +/-

 

[docmemi]

Originally posted by docmemi
since your class rank matters for your deans letter, aoa and finally residency, does this whole P/F thing have any meaning??

bzump. help please.

 

[KarateGirl]

I was at Temple the other day, and the tour guides said they had an honors/pass/fail system, but that's not what the aamc site says. Can anyone verify this?

 

[Blade28]

Originally posted by docmemi
bzump. help please.

Other considerations go into AOA, I believe. Comments/written evaluations from teachers, evaluations during clinical rotations, board scores, etc. may all play a part.

 

[LA:)]

thanks dr. reddly & leavesam!