Patients and Sadness

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Anyone ever get sad from time to time after seeing the challenges patients face? I mean, I am only a volunteer---but it is so disheartening to sometimes see the difficulties they face. For example, there was this ten-year old girl I heard of at the Hospital I volunteered at that was suffering from some type of severe abnormality (forgot what it was) and her parent's never even came to visit her at all throughout her admittance to the emergency room.

I don't know. Sure, this is rewarding. But dang, at the end of the day---you come to terms more with some of the harsh realities of life.
 
I volunteer in pediatric PT and this little boy (I’m awful at estimating age—2? 3?) was barely able to move his arms and legs. He was the cutest child I’ve ever seen, and seeing him struggle was heartbreaking as you said.

But, it was heartwarming to hear him say “kick, kick, kick!” on the scooter as he very gently and slowly pushed himself across the floor.
 
The doctors I have talked to said that losing empathy is unavoidable so yes it prob get easier


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Anyone ever get sad from time to time after seeing the challenges patients face? I mean, I am only a volunteer---but it is so disheartening to sometimes see the difficulties they face. For example, there was this ten-year old girl I heard of at the Hospital I volunteered at that was suffering from some type of severe abnormality (forgot what it was) and her parent's never even came to visit her at all throughout her admittance to the emergency room.

I don't know. Sure, this is rewarding. But dang, at the end of the day---you come to terms more with some of the harsh realities of life.

You hold it inside while you’re with patients and allow yourself to cry on the drive home or once you get home (or with the exceptionally devestating events, you excuse yourself for a few minutes if you can). On the flip side, make sure to celebrate when you have a good day/good outcome.
 
Gotta’ learn healthy coping mechanisms

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Okay here we go. This post is only meant for pre-meds. Once someone has started down the path in medical school and beyond, I will only comment on specific cases, not generalities.

Your objective in life should be to be as happy as possible for as much of your life as you can. Medicine should be a rewarding career. Money is important, but your happiness is more important. I have long maintained that medical training is too long to be worth it if a) you aren't going to enjoy what you do at the end and b) at least most of the time enjoy the journey from undergrad to medical school to residency to fully licensed physician. Yes, it is the most surefire way to making it into the top 3-4% of earners in the United States, but there IS opportunity cost, both financial as well time wise. It is also important to keep in mind that while there is tremendous opportunity out there to make a lot of money in medicine, the 'easier' avenues are going to be shut down slowly but surely as our costs of healthcare continue to rise and people look at ways to save on healthcare. Simply put, if you don't derive pleasure from the day to day in medicine, you should not go into it.

With all of that in mind, patient's illness is always going to be a part of the job. The old adage, 'no matter how bad of a day you are having, their day is worse, after all they are sick and in the hospital, while you are at work' is not far from the truth. Obviously specialty and practice dependent, but you are interfacing with people who are dealing with the big things in their lives, every single day. Just as different specialties and practices will vary, so will specific patients. In general, the hardest are the younger patients who are going through major healthcare issues. Pediatrics is an obvious source of this, but something as different as vascular surgery will have similar cases. It is always hard to see 20 something and 30 somethings with kidney failure, on ventilators, or in shock. The other challenging group are the unexpected patients. Trauma falls into this, or the very health conscious patient that gets something they couldn't prevent. If these patients don't affect you at all, you are abnormal. I will stop short of saying that you 'shouldn't go into medicine'. But, I would strongly urge you to think long and hard about the road ahead. The flip side of that empathy is probably the most rewarding aspect of medicine for most physicians. The joy of being able to help people with their worst problems is one of the best highs one can attain.

This kind of emotional investment in patients can be dangerous as others in this thread have alluded to. Learning and establishing good coping mechanisms is mandatory. Understanding your overall ability to handle the highs and lows is equally important and should play a role into picking the specialty and practice that you ultimately end up in.
 
Exhale.... Inhale... Exhale...

Okay here we go. This post is only meant for pre-meds. Once someone has started down the path in medical school and beyond, I will only comment on specific cases, not generalities.

Your objective in life should be to be as happy as possible for as much of your life as you can. Medicine should be a rewarding career. Money is important, but your happiness is more important. I have long maintained that medical training is too long to be worth it if a) you aren't going to enjoy what you do at the end and b) at least most of the time enjoy the journey from undergrad to medical school to residency to fully licensed physician. Yes, it is the most surefire way to making it into the top 3-4% of earners in the United States, but there IS opportunity cost, both financial as well time wise. It is also important to keep in mind that while there is tremendous opportunity out there to make a lot of money in medicine, the 'easier' avenues are going to be shut down slowly but surely as our costs of healthcare continue to rise and people look at ways to save on healthcare. Simply put, if you don't derive pleasure from the day to day in medicine, you should not go into it.

With all of that in mind, patient's illness is always going to be a part of the job. The old adage, 'no matter how bad of a day you are having, their day is worse, after all they are sick and in the hospital, while you are at work' is not far from the truth. Obviously specialty and practice dependent, but you are interfacing with people who are dealing with the big things in their lives, every single day. Just as different specialties and practices will vary, so will specific patients. In general, the hardest are the younger patients who are going through major healthcare issues. Pediatrics is an obvious source of this, but something as different as vascular surgery will have similar cases. It is always hard to see 20 something and 30 somethings with kidney failure, on ventilators, or in shock. The other challenging group are the unexpected patients. Trauma falls into this, or the very health conscious patient that gets something they couldn't prevent. If these patients don't affect you at all, you are abnormal. I will stop short of saying that you 'shouldn't go into medicine'. But, I would strongly urge you to think long and hard about the road ahead. The flip side of that empathy is probably the most rewarding aspect of medicine for most physicians. The joy of being able to help people with their worst problems is one of the best highs one can attain.

This kind of emotional investment in patients can be dangerous as others in this thread have alluded to. Learning and establishing good coping mechanisms is mandatory. Understanding your overall ability to handle the highs and lows is equally important and should play a role into picking the specialty and practice that you ultimately end up in.


You nailed it on the head! Thank you so much!!
 
You hold it inside while you’re with patients and allow yourself to cry on the drive home or once you get home (or with the exceptionally devestating events, you excuse yourself for a few minutes if you can). On the flip side, make sure to celebrate when you have a good day/good outcome.

Usually for me it has been in an empty exam room/office..... more than once had to let out some tears at work after a really heartbreaking case.
I was initially always embarrassed by these emotions but the doctors I worked with reminded me we are all human and we can't keep things bottled up as it doesn't help our patients.
 
I do peds and perinatal hospice and have the same experience you do where it just pains me to see what these patients and families go through.

Everyone has their own way of dealing with it. I am a deeply religious person and so I pray fir everyone on the way to and from my volunteer shifts and whenever I pray throughout the next few days. I thank God I woke up this morning. I am heavily involved in a Bible study and will sometimes remove all patient identifiers so the other ladies can pray for people with me.

Other folks remove patient identifiers and talk to family/friends or write feelings down in a journal.

Always remember that your sadness honors them. It is really hard though. *hugs* Also, my PM box is always open if you want to talk about whatever.

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Life is full of sadness and hardship. Some people more than others.

Lots of people operate under the assumption that you won't die, and it shouldn't be hard. . . . . they are wrong. We live in a broken, fallen world. Even in the wealthiest country on Earth, some days just suck.
 
I do peds and perinatal hospice and have the same experience you do where it just pains me to see what these patients and families go through.

Everyone has their own way of dealing with it. I am a deeply religious person and so I pray fir everyone on the way to and from my volunteer shifts and whenever I pray throughout the next few days. I thank God I woke up this morning. I am heavily involved in a Bible study and will sometimes remove all patient identifiers so the other ladies can pray for people with me.

Other folks remove patient identifiers and talk to family/friends or write feelings down in a journal.

Always remember that your sadness honors them. It is really hard though. *hugs* Also, my PM box is always open if you want to talk about whatever.

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Amen. I always look to God when I have really sad cases (and happy ones too).
 
Seeing the tough cases makes me grateful for the things I have that many patients do not, whether that be health, resources, supportive family, etc. it keeps me from taking these things for granted.
 
I've had a patient who was actually doing well but had me close to tears because they were breaking down about how they were supposed to pay for their stay at the hospital.

Also shadowing in oncology department was difficult. Seeing a doctor break the news to a patient that they had cancer was tough. At first I felt like the doc was being a bit cold (not in front of the patient) but I don't blame them considering how difficult it must be to get too emotionally involved especially in a department like that 🙁
 
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