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Just to let everyone know, PCOM-Atlanta is now listed on AACOMAS to accept applications for the Class of 2005.

Anyone know which LOR I need for PCOM-A? I don't have a premed commitee, and my premed advisor isn't in the same "college" granting the degree, unless they meant "university".
 
Hey thanks for the heads up! Anyone know where to get info about the campus/curriculum/supplemental reqs?
 
JohnDO said:
Hey thanks for the heads up! Anyone know where to get info about the campus/curriculum/supplemental reqs?

I haven't been able to find any more information other that what was on AACOMAS. However, I talked with them a month or two ago and they told me to keep checking the main PCOM site.
 
Wow....even more schools. I knew it was coming but dang 3 schools in 2 years? Thats an extra 600 DO's to compete for the same residency spots with!
 
Why couldn't it be the year AFTER I matriculate >:/ More options for me, but less in the long run I suppose.
 
Robz said:
Wow....even more schools. I knew it was coming but dang 3 schools in 2 years? Thats an extra 600 DO's to compete for the same residency spots with!

PCOM Atlanta is only going to be 80 students initially. Are the other two schools that huge? That would make them the two biggest osteopathic schools in the nation.
 
Do you know how to apply to PCOM-Atlanta if I've already processed my application? I've looked on the "add school" list, but they still aren't listed there. Should I contact PCOM or AACOMAS? Thanks so much for the help.
 
UltimateDO said:
PCOM Atlanta is only going to be 80 students initially. Are the other two schools that huge? That would make them the two biggest osteopathic schools in the nation.

You know...I can honestly say I don't know. I was banking on the fact the most classes were 200 student large.

Since LECOM-FL is a PBL and you say PCOM-G is only 80....it may be much less.

I have not idea how big LECOM-FL and TUCOM-V

Wow...can't these places just think of new names for school now that I think about it? Maybe its a legal thing.
 
Robz said:
You know...I can honestly say I don't know. I was banking on the fact the most classes were 200 student large.

Since LECOM-FL is a PBL and you say PCOM-G is only 80....it may be much less.

I have not idea how big LECOM-FL and TUCOM-V

Wow...can't these places just think of new names for school now that I think about it? Maybe its a legal thing.

LECOM-FL is 150-160 students per class. And yes, I wish there were new names. Imagine telling people down here that you're going to LAKE ERIE college.... 😕
 
TUCOM-NV Class of 2008 will have 75 students and subsequent classes should have an enrollment of around 125, from what I've been told.
 
150 + 75 = 225

thats a nice amount of people

then if you take in the new numbers next year

150 + 125 + 80 = 355

Now I am interested in knowing how many DO's graduated one decade ago a year vesusu what will graduate next year.

Seems like there are going to be more and more!
 
Don't forget VCOM which had it's first Class for 2007 and is around 154 students and Class of 2008 which should be around 150 students.
 
oh crap forgot about them...sorry VCOM!

yeah I know AZCOM opened up in 1996 so there has definetly been a insane increase in the number of DO's.
 
Bump........any news on this, please post.
 
momof2 said:
Bump........any news on this, please post.

So far, there's not a whole lot of info out there, which is somewhat surprising given the school is accepting apps. If what has been said is true (entering class of 80) I suppose we really shouldn't get our hopes up.

I'm sure something should come up on an official site within the coming weeks.
 
Here is something from thier website...

PCOM is looking to expand into Georgia. We have notified the AOA that we will be applying for branch campus status. The Georgia Non-Public Post-Secondary Education Commission has given us provisional authorization to proceed, as has the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. The Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools approved the application of substantive change to create the branch campus. We are preparing formal applications to the AOA. PCOM is reviewing sites in suburban Atlanta, Ga. In addition, the College recently appointed Paul Evans, DO '79, as Vice Dean for Academic Affairs and academic leader of this campus and John Fleischmann, EdD, as the campus administrative officer. We expect to welcome the first class in August 2005. PCOM also continues to build on non-DO graduate programs that broaden the tuition base beyond the DO program while making use of knowledgeable faculty and existing facilities.
 
And another article.....

http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/stories/2004/02/09/story8.html

Medical college expanding in the SouthJohn George
Staff Writer

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine, already one of the largest osteopathic medical schools in the nation, is looking to grow even bigger.

Matthew Schure, PCOM's president and CEO, said the medical school is planning to open a branch campus in suburban Atlanta next year.

"We're looking at 80 students per class," he said. "With that 80, we'd be -- if not the largest (osteopathic school) -- very close to the top."

Schure said PCOM chose suburban Atlanta as the location for its first branch campus as a result of its relationship with the Osteopathic Institute of the South (OIS), a nonprofit medical education organization that provides third- and fourth-year clinical rotations to osteopathic medical students.

The OIS was established from the proceeds of the sale of Doctors Hospital, an osteopathic medical center in Tucker, Ga., in the late 1980s.

"A couple of years ago, the folks at the OIS thought it would be a good idea to establish a medical school with a mission of the recruitment and retention of medical students from the South for the South," Schure said.

The OIS approached PCOM, which was looking to expand its presence in the South, about its interest in establishing a branch campus in the Atlanta area.

"Osteopathic medicine is quite underrepresented in the South," said OIS President Barry A. Doublestein. "Our closest colleges are at least 350 miles away. We have a lot of students from the South who want to stay in the South. We thought it would be a great idea to have a school here so they don't need to leave."

Osteopathic medicine emphasizes the importance of preventive health care and relies on the inherent ability of the body to heal itself. Osteopathic physicians believe their role is to remove the obstacles to that inherent ability using all accepted medical means -- including surgery, drugs, patient education and manipulation of the body.

Schure said PCOM, which has 1,500 students on its Philadelphia campus, has made an offer to acquire a property in Georgia's Gwinnett County and is also looking at other potential sites for a branch campus in the region.

PCOM has notified the American Osteopathic Association of its intent to apply for branch campus status. The Georgia Non-Public Post-Secondary Education Commission has granted PCOM provisional authorization to proceed with its plans. PCOM is also preparing formal applications to the osteopathic association and the Middle States Association for accreditation. The school expects to welcome its first class in August 2005.

The branch campus is one component in a new multipronged strategy for raising between $4 million and $5 million in new revenue at PCOM.

Schure said the boost is needed not only to help the medical school be less reliant on its annual state appropriation, but also to help control the need for tuition increases and to cover its increasing costs -- particularly in the area of malpractice insurance.

"We need to be proactive in securing our future," Schure said.

In recent years, medical schools have needed to aggressively lobby legislators to preserve their state funding, which for PCOM comes to about $4.6 million to $6 million annually.

"The state has always been supportive and we expect that support will continue since PCOM graduates practice in all but one county in the commonwealth," Schure said.

The only county in Pennsylvania that does not have a physician who was trained at PCOM is Cameron County, which has a population of less than 6,000 people, in the north-central part of the state.

Schure said PCOM is also in preliminary discussions with several developers and business partners regarding the former City Avenue Hospital site on its campus.

PCOM acquired the hospital building from Tenet Healthcare Corp. in 2002, after Tenet closed the hospital in 2000.

Schure said PCOM is talking with a private developer about building student housing, with commercial space on the first floor, where the hospital once stood.

In addition, college officials are studying the possibility of responding to the city's upcoming request for proposals to provide health-care services to people incarcerated in Philadelphia prisons.

"We have to see what's in [the request for proposals] before we can determine the appropriateness of our filing a response," he said.

John George can be reached at [email protected].
 
PCOM-A has bought a building in Gwinnett county just outside of Lawrenceville that is the intended site for the school. The admissions dept has been put together and the faculty is still being assembled. I would imagine that with that location there should be some awesome rotations spots in the regions. I know I am planning on going back home and doing some rotations through the OIS in the Atlanta area. I should save my EM month for Grady downtown 😱
 
I might as well add it here. I found another article on PCOM - Atlanta.

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/06-17-2004/0002195323&EDATE=

Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine to Open Branch Campus in Georgia
PHILADELPHIA, June 17 /PRNewswire/ -- Philadelphia College of Osteopathic
Medicine (PCOM), a private, not-for-profit institution based in Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania, plans to open a branch campus in Gwinnett County, Georgia.
Atlanta Campus -- Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine anticipates
admitting its first class of 80 students in August 2005. The goal of the
College is to train students from Georgia and surrounding states to practice
osteopathic medicine in the region.
Atlanta Campus -- Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine is being
created to fill the need for more physicians in the area. The Georgia Board
for Physician Workforce finds that Georgia's physician supply is not keeping
up with the increase in population and that physician shortages will make
access to care in rural and inner cities more difficult. PCOM places a strong
emphasis on training primary care physicians, many of whom practice medicine
in traditionally underserved areas.
The campus has been given approval to initiate the student application
process by the Commission on Osteopathic College Accreditation of the American
Osteopathic Association. Final Commission approval to begin accepting students
for admittance is expected in January 2005. The campus will feature full
educational resources, student services, a dedicated faculty and links to the
main campus via technology.
For more than a century, Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine has
trained highly competent, caring physicians, health practitioners and
behavioral scientists who practice a "whole person" approach, treating people,
not just symptoms. PCOM offers the doctor of osteopathic medicine degree and
graduate programs in psychology, physician assistant studies, forensic
medicine, organizational development and leadership, and biomedical sciences.
Our students learn the importance of health promotion, education and service
to the community and, through PCOM's five Healthcare Centers, provide care to the medically underserved populations in inner city and rural locations.
 
Any indication of a preference for GA residents? I know it said "recruiting from the South for the South", but that can mean many things.

Also, anyone have any idea on the average stats of most of the new DO schools, such as VCOM and LECOM-B when they first opened up? 80 seats isn't a whole lot, but Atlanta is only 2.5 hours from here and I would LOVE to stay in this area.

I'm also assuming that secondary requirements are the same.
 
No average stats for LECOM-FL yet - first class starting this year. I, for one, think these new schools opening is a great thing. Say what you will about residency opportunities, but more DO's means more exposure. Any pamphlet or description of osteopathic medicine you read quotes the number of DO's that are practicing and the percentage of physicians who are osteopathic. I think an increase in those numbers is a good thing.
 
I agree with nicedream. I am very happy that more schools are opening up. Hopefully this will spur the AOA to take a serious look at the osteopathic residency situation.
 
You will never hear me for one say there are not enough qualified physicians....there are plenety of threads to talk about the 25K allopathic residency spots with 16K allopathic US grads a year....this is not counting osteopathic.

Other than increased competetion I don't think I have a lot of complaints.

I am though skeptical by nature so it makes me wonder when so many schools are opening as such a breakneck speed. Seriously, there have been at lease 5 DO schools that have opened in the last 8 years! This is good for getting the name out but is the AOA overall smart in allowing this to happen at the pace it does.

Truly for me its a matter of education. What kind of education will you receive? What are the clincials like? I am all for my counterparts going to a new school and personally I give you all the credit in the world. Seriously.

Just one of the things I noticed on the interview trail this last year was the affiliation with clinicals and hospitals. I hate to bring up allopathic vs osteopathic but this is one thing in my interview year that stuck out. There seems to be less to little inclination to have a hospital directly on campus or directly affilated with a osteopahtic school. Every allopathic school I interviewed at had a hospital right on top of campus...no matter how amazing or crappy it might have been.

I worry that by these schools opening so quickly that they are litterally riding on the tails of their prospective big sister schools. Like do they have enough clinicals around vegas/bradeton/atlanta to cover the students.....or are you forced to go back to the already established sites back in erie or philly? It is somehting I thought about. Then again most DO schools have multiple hospitals that they are afflicated with but I think you all get the gyst of what I am talking about.

Those that are going down the path of a new school...you are all first in line to be the shining example for that program. I am sure you will all do it proud. I am just interested in seeing how in 5 years or more this pans out...with the new DO schools and MD FSU school and I heard that there may even be another MD school in a few years too. A lot more physicians for the same amount of residencies.

just a ponderance.
 
JohnDO said:
I agree with nicedream. I am very happy that more schools are opening up. Hopefully this will spur the AOA to take a serious look at the osteopathic residency situation.

yes, I agree!

I would like to see more programs with high standards of learning.

Personally, I wouldn't mind all the residency programs in the US be open to anyone. I think competition is a good thing and will make sure everyone is at the top of their game!
 
According to US News & World Report:
VCOM is around a 7.6 MCAT and 3.4 GPA

Pikeville is around a 7.5 MCAT and 3.3 GPA

I think those were the two newest schools last year. I'd bet that PCOM-Atlanta will be about that or a little below starting
 
Robz said:
I worry that by these schools opening so quickly that they are litterally riding on the tails of their prospective big sister schools. Like do they have enough clinicals around vegas/bradeton/atlanta to cover the students.....or are you forced to go back to the already established sites back in erie or philly?

I can't speak for TUCOM or PCOM, but LECOM is affiliated with over 75 hospitals across the Eastern US and Midwest. They were already affiliated with two hospitals in Florida, and they have now added several others in the state including two of the three hospitals in Bradenton. They've done an outstanding job forming affiliations for us down here.
 
(nicedream) said:
They've done an outstanding job forming affiliations for us down here.

cool
 
Anyone know what the stats are like for LECOM-B? I should have a 3.33 / 3.28 cum/sci GPA at the end of summer. No idea on the MCAT, but I'm wondering if it's even worth applying with those grades?
 
JKDMed said:
Anyone know what the stats are like for LECOM-B? I should have a 3.33 / 3.28 cum/sci GPA at the end of summer. No idea on the MCAT, but I'm wondering if it's even worth applying with those grades?

That GPA is ok. Personally I had a GPA on the lower side and an MCAT score on the higher side. But that's not a bad GPA you've got there.
 
Well that's after summer, so hopefully they'll wait until I can give them some updated transcripts before outright rejecting me. That's also contingent on their counting physio psych as science (which I have heard both they do and don't).

I guess it's not a huge loss if I don't get in, it will spare me having to spend a year away from the wifey. I still have two semesters left in which I'm confident I can rock the grades and come out with over a 3.40 in both after Spring '05.

Let's hope for a relatively high MCAT to balance things out :luck: :luck:
 
For those interested in applying to PCOM-Atlanta but you have already submitted your application to AACOM--

simply printout the add_school.pdf and list campus number 625 PCOM-Atlanta at the bottom of the list. Print it off and send in your money.

I spoke with Carol Fox yesterday (215) 871- 6701. If you haven't submitted your application yet, then you should be able to apply through your original application at this point.
 
Robz said:
I am though skeptical by nature so it makes me wonder when so many schools are opening as such a breakneck speed. Seriously, there have been at lease 5 DO schools that have opened in the last 8 years! This is good for getting the name out but is the AOA overall smart in allowing this to happen at the pace it does.

I worry that by these schools opening so quickly that they are litterally riding on the tails of their prospective big sister schools.

just a ponderance.

In response to your skepticism of the pace at which DO schools are opening and the questions you've asked regarding the AOA's decision to allow it...

Quoted from:
www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001936.htm

Between 1802 and 1876, 62 fairly stable medical schools were established. In 1810, there were 650 students enrolled and 100 graduates from medical schools in the United States. By 1900, these numbers had risen to 25,000 students and 5,200 graduates.

That's an average of 0.84 schools/year.

And, since the AMA was officially founded in 1847 as they convened their first meeting...I'm sure that they believed this proliferation of MD schools was appropriate early in their history as well.

As for the clinicals... I'm only really familiar with my new home, LECOM-Bradenton, and I agree with NiceDreams.

Geez, I sure hope that this history was right :laugh:

_________________________
gr8n
LECOM-Bradenton
c/o 2008
"You can't spell Doctor without the DO!"
 
Geronimo said:
For those interested in applying to PCOM-Atlanta but you have already submitted your application to AACOM--

simply printout the add_school.pdf and list campus number 625 PCOM-Atlanta at the bottom of the list. Print it off and send in your money.

I spoke with Carol Fox yesterday (215) 871- 6701. If you haven't submitted your application yet, then you should be able to apply through your original application at this point.

Thanks! I called and was told the same thing.
 
Are the requirements for the GA campus the same with regards to LOR? IS there really only 80 seats?

Who am I suppose to get a letter from? My premed advisor? My academic advisor? My dean? I have a premed advisor, but she's not, "in the same college granting the degree", unless by "college" they mean "academic institution". I keep meaning to call but always forget.
 
What I've been told is that you should pretend as though you are applying to PCOM in terms of requirements, LOR, etc... and expect the same sort of curriculum and so on from PCOM Atlanta as you would from PCOM. Apparantly accredidation will not be a problem. Of course, they are going to say that and since no school that I am aware of has been denied accredidation, they are probably right. PCOM would look really bad if their new school didn't get accredited, not to mention the future of the school itself.
 
does anyone know what hospitals pcom atlanta will be working with??
 
Hard to say? There is an osteopathic hospital south of Macon. I'm sure that will be one sight. There are a number of clinics, private practice D.O.'s in the area they will probably calling on for rotations. There is a GA Osteopathic Association that will probably be establishing all that. They have 3 years to set up the big plan. I imagine the first two years will be focused on lecture with only minimal clinical experience but I could certainly be wrong. We'll have to wait and see. Website is supposed to be up in another couple of weeks.
 
pratik7 said:
does anyone know what hospitals pcom atlanta will be working with??

I would assume they are going to start with the hospitals associated with the OIS

Houston Medical Center, Warner Robins, Georgia
St. Francis Hospital and The Medical Center, Columbus, Georgia
Emory-Northlake Regional Medical Center, Tucker, Georgia
Hutchison Medical Center, Fort Oglethorpe, Georgia
Eisenhower Army Medical Center, Fort Gordon, Georgia

If I were going into ED or trauma surg I would definitely want to rotate at Grady 😱
 
I don't expect there would be. I doubt Emory would be very open to PCOM's students unless there was an outside agreement going on. Likely, you'll be sent all over the country (including back up to Penn) for some rotations. Maybe not, I doubt they've nailed down much this far in advance. Maybe around interview time, you could ask some more specific questions along those lines.
 
Nothing yet. We'll see. I'm not looking for anything anytime soon - but - you never know.
 
Geronimo said:
I don't expect there would be. I doubt Emory would be very open to PCOM's students unless there was an outside agreement going on. Likely, you'll be sent all over the country (including back up to Penn) for some rotations. Maybe not, I doubt they've nailed down much this far in advance. Maybe around interview time, you could ask some more specific questions along those lines.

There already is a pretty healthy osteopathic rotation infrastructure in Atlanta through the OIS. There are several hospitals involved. I listed them earlier in this thread.
 
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