Pediatric Fellowships

[PMR TX MS]

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Hey!

I appreciate your help with this question. I wanted to know how competitive some of the fellowships are such as cards, renal, pulmonology for peds. Also, what is the lifestyle/pay/etc for peds subspecialties compared to medicine subspecialties?
Thanks!

 

[iatrosB]

Hey!

I appreciate your help with this question. I wanted to know how competitive some of the fellowships are such as cards, renal, pulmonology for peds. Also, what is the lifestyle/pay/etc for peds subspecialties compared to medicine subspecialties?
Thanks!

I can't speak of the others, but I know cards is pretty competitive. For the most part, peds fellowships are usually less competitive.

Lifestyle will be far different from your medicine counterparts. The call schedule will be similar (depending on your group) but income is significantly lower. In peds, fellowship trained docs are paid little more than general peds docs. I have seen some cards and neonate jobs that pay >200K but for the most part, if money is your motivation, run to medicine instead.

 

[PMR TX MS]

I asked about money and lifestyle because they are factors, but not the main interest. I didn't ask about what it's like to practice as a peds subspecialist because I can witness that by rotating through some of the fields. My main interest in peds subspecialties is because some of them, such as cards, seem more appealing and interesting than adults where it's CHF/CAD/DM all day. But I would like to know what the other aspects of the field such as lifestyle, pay, etc are like also which are harder to assess from local rotations.

I can't speak of the others, but I know cards is pretty competitive. For the most part, peds fellowships are usually less competitive.

Lifestyle will be far different from your medicine counterparts. The call schedule will be similar (depending on your group) but income is significantly lower. In peds, fellowship trained docs are paid little more than general peds docs. I have seen some cards and neonate jobs that pay >200K but for the most part, if money is your motivation, run to medicine instead.

 

[iatrosB]

I asked about money and lifestyle because they are factors, but not the main interest. I didn't ask about what it's like to practice as a peds subspecialist because I can witness that by rotating through some of the fields. My main interest in peds subspecialties is because some of them, such as cards, seem more appealing and interesting than adults where it's CHF/CAD/DM all day. But I would like to know what the other aspects of the field such as lifestyle, pay, etc are like also which are harder to assess from local rotations.

Cool, sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to say that money is your motivator and it is important to research these issues. My point was that peds speciallist are paid less across the board than IM speciallist. Peds has an allure to it that supercedes monetary issues though, and you seem to grasp that. Again, sorry if I offended you, that was not my intent. Good luck 👍

 

[PMR TX MS]

No offense, just clarifying the question. 🙂

Cool, sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to say that money is your motivator and it is important to research these issues. My point was that peds speciallist are paid less across the board than IM speciallist. Peds has an allure to it that supercedes monetary issues though, and you seem to grasp that. Again, sorry if I offended you, that was not my intent. Good luck 👍

 

[jdog]

No offense, just clarifying the question. 🙂

To answer the original question

Competitiveness:

Most Competitive (More applicants than spots): Cards, Emergency, Allergy

Somewhat to moderately competitive (about equal applicants and spots):
NICU, GI, Hem-Onc ( the most competitive of the three in this category)

Fellowships with less applicants than spots: Endocrine, PICU, pulmonary, Renal,

I am not really sure about adolescent, Rheum, ID, or anything else I missed

As far as pay, highest is PICU, cards, NICU, ER (more critical care type jobs, then the procedure based specialties (GI, pulm, Hem-Onc (Chemo is procedure). Lowest is the non-procedure based (endocrine, ID, renal genetics). I do not know numbers. Will vary depending on where you practice, if you are private or not-private (very few specialties offer private practice), etc.

 

[iatrosB]

To answer the original question

Competitiveness:

Most Competitive (More applicants than spots): Cards, Emergency, Allergy

Somewhat to moderately competitive (about equal applicants and spots):
NICU, GI, Hem-Onc ( the most competitive of the three in this category)

Fellowships with less applicants than spots: Endocrine, PICU, pulmonary, Renal,

I am not really sure about adolescent, Rheum, ID, or anything else I missed

As far as pay, highest is PICU, cards, NICU, ER (more critical care type jobs, then the procedure based specialties (GI, pulm, Hem-Onc (Chemo is procedure). Lowest is the non-procedure based (endocrine, ID, renal genetics). I do not know numbers. Will vary depending on where you practice, if you are private or not-private (very few specialties offer private practice), etc.

Very informative, good job! 👍

 

[SoonerBJJ]

Agreed for the most part. Except I wouldn't say NICU, GI or hem-onc are that competitive, except for a very few programs.

They are paying people large stipends above the salary for renal and rheumatology fellowships in some places. They need bodies bad.

PICU was competitive for positions at the larger and more well known programs. Nearly 30% of the total number of matched fellows are matched to 1 of the 4 largest programs. Another third of the programs did not fill. The fellows are migrating to the larger centers where competition can be expected. The smaller regional programs basically have a sign-up sheet.