Pediatrics BOARDS 2024 - DO- (AOBP)

[KDVMSPH]

Hi!!

Attending Pediatrician, taking DO PEDS Boards next week!

Any last minute pointers? Its all remote (which makes me a little nervous). How is the OMM portion? I have been studying, but the OMM is driving me crazy trying to remember it all.

Good luck to those taking it soon!

Thanks for the advice!

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[Ready_2_Run]

Partner is taking it next week, winging the OMM portion. From what ive put together only a few questions hopefully it will be ok. Good luck 🙂

 

[Ready_2_Run]

Update. Was about 8-10 OMM questions. Proctored remotely so it can be done at home. Rest of the exam was more straight forward than ABP, and she had studied using the same resources as ABP

 

[calvinhobbes]

Glad she took it and hopefully did well!

 

[KDVMSPH]

that’s awesome!! I felt better about it too!!

 

[DO2015CA]

You should get the results a lot sooner than ABP as well

 

[KDVMSPH]

Hope all that took the boards passed today!

 

[calvinhobbes]

Yay!

 

[unsure1]

Passed.
Can anyone please clarify if we could say we are board certified and use FAAP at the end of our name or need to submit an application to aap?

 

[DO2015CA]

Passed.
Can anyone please clarify if we could say we are board certified and use FAAP at the end of our name or need to submit an application to aap?

It is board certification so you better say BC. Dunno about FAAP question

 

[unsure1]

It is board certification so you better say BC. Dunno about FAAP question

It seems that they need to submit credentials to the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists of the AOA with the recommendation for approval of certification in Pediatrics.

So would this mean in the interim we are BC or need to wait for the above to first happen?

Regarding FAAP designation, it seems this would qualify (correct me if I'm wrong) as reading from AAP.org:

"What is a Fellow (FAAP)?

The FAAP designation after a pediatrician's name stands for Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Physicians who maintain their FAAP designation have obtained initial board certification in pediatrics or a pediatric surgical specialty and made an ongoing commitment to lifelong learning and advocacy for children."

 

[SurfingDoctor]

It seems that they need to submit credentials to the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists of the AOA with the recommendation for approval of certification in Pediatrics.

So would this mean in the interim we are BC or need to wait for the above to first happen?

Regarding FAAP designation, it seems this would qualify (correct me if I'm wrong) as reading from AAP.org:

"What is a Fellow (FAAP)?

The FAAP designation after a pediatrician's name stands for Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Physicians who maintain their FAAP designation have obtained initial board certification in pediatrics or a pediatric surgical specialty and made an ongoing commitment to lifelong learning and advocacy for children."

FAAP requires a nomination and appointment. It has nothing to do with board certification.

 

[unsure1]

FAAP requires a nomination and appointment. It has nothing to do with board certification.

Are you sure?

From healthychildren.org:

"What does "FAAP" stand for?
If you see the initials "FAAP" after a pediatrician’s name, it means they have passed their board exam and is now a full Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. This is the highest status of membership in this professional organization."

 

[SurfingDoctor]

Are you sure?

From healthychildren.org:

"What does "FAAP" stand for?
If you see the initials "FAAP" after a pediatrician’s name, it means they have passed their board exam and is now a full Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. This is the highest status of membership in this professional organization."

Hmm. Well, you have to pay the full membership indefinitely to the AAP. Maybe it was the subspecialty boards that require nomination.

Either way… it’s a meaningless designation and says you’ve forked over bucks to pay to the organization. In fact, if it requires no nomination, it’s even more worthless than I originally thought.

 

[Ready_2_Run]

Partner passed!

 

[DO2015CA]

It seems that they need to submit credentials to the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists of the AOA with the recommendation for approval of certification in Pediatrics.

So would this mean in the interim we are BC or need to wait for the above to first happen?

Regarding FAAP designation, it seems this would qualify (correct me if I'm wrong) as reading from AAP.org:

"What is a Fellow (FAAP)?

The FAAP designation after a pediatrician's name stands for Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Physicians who maintain their FAAP designation have obtained initial board certification in pediatrics or a pediatric surgical specialty and made an ongoing commitment to lifelong learning and advocacy for children."

You are a board certified pediatrician as soon as you receive the pass email. Just like ABP.

FAAP is completely useless and even though I have it on my AAP mail, I list it no where else. It’s used as initial fodder list other professions like to do.

 

[DO2015CA]

I am happy for those that chose to take this after failing ABP (maybe multiple times) and I hope you encourage others in a similar situation. Having taken and passed both, I think it’s a great option for general pediatricians as it adequately tests gen peds knowledge.

 

[lonewolf42]

I am happy for those that chose to take this after failing ABP (maybe multiple times) and I hope you encourage others in a similar situation. Having taken and passed both, I think it’s a great option for general pediatricians as it adequately tests gen peds knowledge.

Yes totally agree. The exam was much more fair than the ABP. Glad it's over forever. Congrats to everyone who passed.

 

[calvinhobbes]

Passed.
Can anyone please clarify if we could say we are board certified and use FAAP at the end of our name or need to submit an application to aap?

Yes you can. You can use FAAP as you are fellow of the AAP even if you are AOA certified. Source: the ABP and AAP when the exact same question was asked. So yes, you can join and pay a membership fee and use the title FAAP

 

[calvinhobbes]

It seems that they need to submit credentials to the Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists of the AOA with the recommendation for approval of certification in Pediatrics.

So would this mean in the interim we are BC or need to wait for the above to first happen?

Regarding FAAP designation, it seems this would qualify (correct me if I'm wrong) as reading from AAP.org:

"What is a Fellow (FAAP)?

The FAAP designation after a pediatrician's name stands for Fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Physicians who maintain their FAAP designation have obtained initial board certification in pediatrics or a pediatric surgical specialty and made an ongoing commitment to lifelong learning and advocacy for children."

You are a board certified pediatrician. Doesn’t matter if the exam you passed is AOA or ABMS, you are board certified

Do you think the Board Certified Surgeons or Dermatologists or Urologists who did an AOA (DO) residency and took their speciality’s AOA Board exam really care? No, they collect that huge paycheck and comfortably know they are board certified and can care less about an exam through ABMS 😂

 

[calvinhobbes]

I am happy for those that chose to take this after failing ABP (maybe multiple times) and I hope you encourage others in a similar situation. Having taken and passed both, I think it’s a great option for general pediatricians as it adequately tests gen peds knowledge.

100% agree. No one cares in the real world, and for the rest of your life you will have the same exact job opportunities and recognized by all insurance panels, hospital credentialing, etc. You will forever write “Board Certified Pediatrician” on your resume and office business cards, etc. The general public, your employer, recruiters, etc do not make a distinction between AOA or ABP and neither should you. Congrats!

 

[DO2015CA]

100% agree. No one cares in the real world, and for the rest of your life you will have the same exact job opportunities and recognized by all insurance panels, hospital credentialing, etc. You will forever write “Board Certified Pediatrician” on your resume and office business cards, etc. The general public, your employer, recruiters, etc do not make a distinction between AOA or ABP and neither should you. Congrats!

Nor should it matter. They’re equivalent entities. More should do it as a first choice so there are more numbers to keep Abp in check

 

[SurfingDoctor]

Hell, most patients families don’t care where you went to school or what your training is… just as long as you give them what they perceive they are paying for/want.

 

[unsure1]

Seems for those of us that are AOBP certified, there is an "OCC requirement". Anyone familiar with what exactly is needed and by when if certified as of 2024?

There seems to be 4 components including Lifelong Learning/Continuing Medical Education.

There is also a tracking service that they charge you for unless you are AOA member. I was wondering whether it's required as well.

Thanks!

 

[DO2015CA]

Seems for those of us that are AOBP certified, there is an "OCC requirement". Anyone familiar with what exactly is needed and by when if certified as of 2024?

There seems to be 4 components including Lifelong Learning/Continuing Medical Education.

There is also a tracking service that they charge you for unless you are AOA member. I was wondering whether it's required as well.

Thanks!

It’s the same exact thing as the MOC for ABP. same 4 categories and all. You’ll have to keep your medical license active, so educational CME activities, something QI related, and something else I can’t remember. It’s replacing your every 10 year big test. It costs yes but so did the big test and so does MOC for Abp.

I’m unsure about the tracking thing as I’m not maintaining my AOBP

 

[unsure1]

It’s the same exact thing as the MOC for ABP. same 4 categories and all. You’ll have to keep your medical license active, so educational CME activities, something QI related, and something else I can’t remember. It’s replacing your every 10 year big test. It costs yes but so did the big test and so does MOC for Abp

Thanks.

For 2024, do you know if anything else is required besides maintaining active licensure and CME credits, such as Self Assessment Modules and longitudinal assessment?

Assuming the other things can be done later after 2024.

 

[DO2015CA]

Thanks.

For 2024, do you know if anything else is required besides maintaining active licensure and CME credits, such as Self Assessment Modules and longitudinal assessment?

Assuming the other things can be done later after 2024.

I think it depends when you were certified. You have to complete all tasks by the end of the cycle to maintain certification. Based on the emails I got, you get an email to enroll in the questions the next year after certifications. You would need to start those based on the email for timing. Then you would have until the end of the cycle to complete the rest of the tasks.

 

[unsure1]

I think it depends when you were certified. You have to complete all tasks by the end of the cycle to maintain certification. Based on the emails I got, you get an email to enroll in the questions the next year after certifications. You would need to start those based on the email for timing. Then you would have until the end of the cycle to complete the rest of the tasks.

So, if certified in 2024 (I'm not sure if you are as well) and this cycle I believe runs from 2022-24 so all 4 tasks need to be completed?

As seemed more CME and maintaining active licensure.. it is confusing considering I'm new to all this.

 

[DO2015CA]

So, if certified in 2024 (I'm not sure if you are as well) and this cycle I believe runs from 2022-24 so all 4 tasks need to be completed?

As seemed more CME and maintaining active licensure.. it is confusing considering I'm new to all this.

Idk. I’m not maintaining my AOBP because they don’t have my subspecialty board. Let me ask a friend and get back to you. My guess would be the full cycle is about 5 years though. It’s confusing for everyone don’t worry lol

 

[DO2015CA]

So, if certified in 2024 (I'm not sure if you are as well) and this cycle I believe runs from 2022-24 so all 4 tasks need to be completed?

As seemed more CME and maintaining active licensure.. it is confusing considering I'm new to all this.

They said yearly for questions then every 2 or 3 years for the cycle so yes you might be right. Probably best to give them a call to ask

 

[unsure1]

They said yearly for questions then every 2 or 3 years for the cycle so yes you might be right. Probably best to give them a call to ask

Hmm qs even for this cycle if was certified 2024? Was under impression just cme and active license for this cycle.

 

[DO2015CA]

Hmm qs even for this cycle if was certified 2024? Was under impression just cme and active license for this cycle.

You’ll get an email when it’s time to register for and start doing your questions. Not sure when they start after the BC