pediatrics PM&R

[mzztiffany]

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Hi,

I'm really interested in learning more about PM&R, esp. pediatrics PM&R. Does anyone know how much they make? (I've tried to google it, but couldn't find anything concrete)

Also, from my understanding you have to do 3 years of PM&R residency then apply for 2 years in fellowship in pediatrics right? Are there programs out there that will combine both and you would apply once? What is this internship year in internal medicine? Do I have to reapply for PM&R after that internship year?

Is it very compeititive to get into? I know pediatrics is not extremely competitive to get into so would like to know how PM&R compares to a pediatrics residency.

LASTLY, SO FAR i have not found a freaking rotation in PM&R. I've been asking all around!!

Thanks!!

Tiffany

 

[ColinHay]

There are combined Peds/PMR programs
5 of which go though ERAS.
You can find them on Frieda.
I don’t know how competitive they are - there aren't many spots but not many applicants either.

For a rotation in PMR you should look through VSAS.
Any school that has a PMR program will have rotation opportunities.

 

[Ludicolo]

... from my understanding you have to do 3 years of PM&R residency then apply for 2 years in fellowship in pediatrics right? Are there programs out there that will combine both and you would apply once? What is this internship year in internal medicine? Do I have to reapply for PM&R after that internship year?

Is it very compeititive to get into? I know pediatrics is not extremely competitive to get into so would like to know how PM&R compares to a pediatrics residency.

My understanding is that there are essentially 3 pathways to an accredited peds rehab fellowship:

You could do a straightforward PM&R residency, which is 4 years total. It can be either consist of a 4 year “categorical” residency, or a 1 year prelim internship followed by a 3 year “advanced” PM&R residency. The internship can be something like a transitional year, prelim IM, prelim surgery or… prelim peds. After completing your PM&R residency, you complete a 2 year fellowship in pediatric rehabilitiation.

You could also do a 5 year combined peds/PM&R residency, followed by a 1 year fellowship.

Or you could do one complete residency after the other, followed by a 1 year fellowship. If you already know you want to go into peds rehab, don’t do this.

You interview for prelim programs and advanced/categorical PM&R programs during the same interview cycle. Prelim or categorical programs would start that July. Advanced programs start the following July. When it comes time to rank programs for the match, you rank your rehab programs in the order you’d like to go. For each advanced program you rank, you submit a supplemental rank order list of your prelim programs. If you’re successful in the match, you either match into a categorical 4 year program, or a 3 year advanced + 1 year prelim together.

No medical specialty starting with the letter “P” is that competitive. Except for plastics.

 

[mzztiffany]

that was helpful!! I actually found a list of clerkships and started contacting some of them. We'll see how that goes. Thanks a bunch!

 

[mzztiffany]

from what you said, it would be wise to rank the prelim the same as the residency right?

 

[oreosandsake]

You could also do a 5 year combined peds/PM&R residency, followed by a 1 year fellowship.

i think the 5 year programs (ex: cincinatti), lead you to being triple board eligible.

not 100% sure, but i think that is the advantage of knowing you want to do pedi rehab early on, and being able to save 1 year.

 

[Ludicolo]

i think the 5 year programs (ex: cincinatti), lead you to being triple board eligible.

not 100% sure, but i think that is the advantage of knowing you want to do pedi rehab early on, and being able to save 1 year.

Not exactly. Completing a combined program alone allows you to be BE in peds and PM&R. It wouldn't automatically allow you to take the subspecialty certification exam in peds rehab. For that, you would need to complete an additional 1 year fellowship.

This could be the source of confusion: currently, you can take the peds rehab boards without having done a fellowship. But the grandfathering will end in 2011.