Peds Emergency Salary

[studyinghard]

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Just curious...

What is the salary of a Peds EM Doc in the community vs. Adult EM Doc?

 

[docB]

In most of the markets I'm familiar with a Peds EM doc makes about ~60% to 75% of what an adult EM doc makes.

 

[DoctorMedic]

from what i hear the 60-75% of what adults make is because they feel in general peds cases are not as involved and generally peds are not as sick. as stupid as it sounds as most true peds em docs are EM and peds you get paid less because well, its peds. this one still baffles me

 

[Stitch]

In most of the markets I'm familiar with a Peds EM doc makes about ~60% to 75% of what an adult EM doc makes.

This is accurate. Of course it depends on the institution, but remember that if you are doing strictly peds EM, you're tied to a peds hospital at a university. We don't do ultrasounds routinely, and in general do fewer procedures, so that makes a difference. Also for whatever reason anything peds makes less than the adult counterpart.

 

[southerndoc]

Of course it depends on the institution, but remember that if you are doing strictly peds EM, you're tied to a peds hospital at a university.

Not true. My primary hospital and another hospital in my health system both have pediatric ER's that are staffed by peds EM docs. We are a community health system and have no academic affiliation whatsoever. We have no medical students, PA students, or residents at any of our institutions.

I am aware of another hospital that uses peds EM docs in their children's ER, and although they have a pediatric residency, the work the peds EM doc does there is mainly community with only a slight amount of teaching.

 

[studyinghard]

As a follow up... Are Adult + Peds trained EMs sought after more than one or the other by private groups due to the extra training?

 

[southerndoc]

As a follow up... Are Adult + Peds trained EMs sought after more than one or the other by private groups due to the extra training?

Probably so, although in my group none of the peds EM docs work in the adult ER (most are peds/peds EM trained, but I think there are 2 that are EM/peds EM trained).

 

[docB]

As a follow up... Are Adult + Peds trained EMs sought after more than one or the other by private groups due to the extra training?

Not so much. In my group when we are looking for peds guys it's to fill peds EM shifts, not the adult shifts. The Peds+adult guys can certainly work adult shifts but we're flush for adult coverage.

Of note though the peds guys are pretty sought after in my area and they've used that to bargain for more $. At this point the adult guys are actually subsidizing the peds guys.

 

[GeneralVeers]

We have a dedicated peds ER in our main facility staffed by peds EM physicians.

The salary is lower for two reasons:

1. Acuity in children in general is VERY low (fewer level 5 visits = fewer $$$)

2. Overall volume seen by our peds EM physicians is less per physician.