If you had to pick between Penn MD/PhD vs. Cornell MD/PhD, where would you go?
If you had to pick between Penn MD/PhD vs. Cornell MD/PhD, where would you go?
philly doesn't compare to nyc. also is you want to do cancer research I think that makes tri-I evem a better choice too. I also don't think doing clinical stuff before your PhD training before unless it's just electives. What if you do your medicine clerkship before grad school and then want to do IM? You did it 5 yrs ago? do you think you will be ready for an IM residency and have current letters or rec?
My research interests are in immunology right now - I am currently working in an NK cell lab (undergrad). I'd like to do the PhD in some field of immunology, probably cancer immunology, but I know my interests can change with time.
For the people who would pick tri-I, what are your reasons? What about for those who would pick Penn - what are your reasons?
My impressions are that Penn is very well integrated with MD and PhD and the program is well run. I like how the students get to go to clinics in the middle of 2nd year and get that experience before they go off to PhD. Penn has amazing research going on as well. How important do you think having experience at the clinics is before doing the PhD?
When I interviewed at the Cornell Tri-I, I found the research, especially with the choices of Rockefeller and Sloan-Kettering to be very impressive. The atmosphere seems slightly more laid back there and the MD/PhD program is smaller (half the size per class than at Penn). The integration seems to be pretty good, although the students don't have as long of a clinical experience as they do at Penn before doing their PhD.
And then there's also the choice of NYC or Philly.
What do you think?
My research interests are in immunology right now - I am currently working in an NK cell lab (undergrad). I'd like to do the PhD in some field of immunology, probably cancer immunology, but I know my interests can change with time.
For the people who would pick tri-I, what are your reasons? What about for those who would pick Penn - what are your reasons?
My impressions are that Penn is very well integrated with MD and PhD and the program is well run. I like how the students get to go to clinics in the middle of 2nd year and get that experience before they go off to PhD. Penn has amazing research going on as well. How important do you think having experience at the clinics is before doing the PhD?
When I interviewed at the Cornell Tri-I, I found the research, especially with the choices of Rockefeller and Sloan-Kettering to be very impressive. The atmosphere seems slightly more laid back there and the MD/PhD program is smaller (half the size per class than at Penn). The integration seems to be pretty good, although the students don't have as long of a clinical experience as they do at Penn before doing their PhD.
And then there's also the choice of NYC or Philly.
What do you think?
I also don't think doing clinical stuff before your PhD training before unless it's just electives. What if you do your medicine clerkship before grad school and then want to do IM? You did it 5 yrs ago? do you think you will be ready for an IM residency and have current letters or rec?
I got the chance to interview at both and liked both a lot. However, I am no NYC material.
philly doesn't compare to nyc. also is you want to do cancer research I think that makes tri-I evem a better choice too. I also don't think doing clinical stuff before your PhD training before unless it's just electives. What if you do your medicine clerkship before grad school and then want to do IM? You did it 5 yrs ago? do you think you will be ready for an IM residency and have current letters or rec?
Now, if I really want to be honest I would tell you that I used a magic 8-ball the day before I had to make a decision and then made up all the other stuff but you all probably wouldn't believe that. BTW, if you do in fact use the 8 ball go by how you feel when the answer comes up and not so much on what the answer really was. I felt relieved when I asked if I should go to Penn and it said Yes.
Smaller class size is a big plus
Tri-I for sure. I was interested in both places too and in cancer immunotherapy work. After taking a close look at cornell and penn, it was a pretty easy choice. I can guarantee you there will be many more faculty in your area at Tri-I than Penn, plus the research there I felt was more proliferative and respected. Smaller class size is a big plus, and NYC>Philly. It was a no brainer for me.
but also of being anti-research.
I think that is their hospital and I haved heard the same about their residency programs, but isn't there a seperate resarch institute?Just to add to the mix, Sloan Kettering has a reputation for being a great cancer center (one of the very best) but also of being anti-research.
Just to add to the mix, Sloan Kettering has a reputation for [...] being anti-research.
uhh
I think you spelled anti-cancer incorrectly
-antimonian
The residency programs are not as flexible when it comes to integrating research and it is generally not allowed, even in research-heavy fields like Rad-Onc.