Percentage matching in top choices

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I've done a few searches but have been unsuccessful. Does anyone know where you can find data on what percentage of IM applicants match in their top 2 choices? The things I've been seeing are 94% match in top 3 choices, when all fields are considered. I'm not sure this data exists but it would be interesting and help the ROL.
 
I don't know, and I would be interested in seeing this data as well. 94% match in their top 3 choices? Really? If that's true, it makes me feel better. However, as far as it helping your ROL, how? Your ROL shouldn't be influenced by how likely you think you are to match to a place...you should list programs in order of your actual preference and where you would like to go. The match is set up in our favor that way; we will go to our highest-ranked place that also ranked us high enough for us to match there. It doesn't give you any advantage to place a program you like less higher on your ROL list...doesn't make you any more likely to match there.
 
Yup, you're absolutely right about the ROL, but for some reason I just can't shake that feeling... product of always applying to something our entire lives I guess.

As far as the 94%, I think I might have made an error and taken it off less than accurate sources. On the aamc website, they say 87% (2005) matched into their top 3. Of course this doesn't include SF match.
 
What are the percentages for US grads?

The 84% seems like it may be for all applying to the NRMP
 
84% US grads matched into top 3 of their choices last year. The number doesn't count FMG's. I am quite sure about this.
 
Does that include all specialties? cause a PD on the interview trail told me that 85% will get thier first choice and 92% will get top two. I assume he was talking to USMG since that was all that was there.

This is for IM
 
Do you guys know any info for IMG? Thanks a lot
 
gagolden said:
Does that include all specialties? cause a PD on the interview trail told me that 85% will get thier first choice and 92% will get top two. I assume he was talking to USMG since that was all that was there.

This is for IM
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If that's true, thats quite encouraging
 
Don't forget that these may be only based on the match lists. For example, if I want to get into programs A, B, and C, but didn't get interviews, I can't rank them. Instead, I may interview and rank D, E, and F. If I match into D, it may look like I matched into my top choice, but obviously I didn't.
 
I heard as high as 95% get in one of their top 3 and this is coming from a PD that I interviewed with.
 
I heard that you can match in pluto if you want.
Unfortunately, I don't have any stats that prove that or anything, so you'll just have to take my word for it.
Noodle, yes, they only base it on where you actually interview. It is extremely rare to match somewhere you didn't actually rank. (or impossible).
 
Anyone knows matching % for IMG/FMG(international Medi Grad)? Thanks
 
Straight from NRMP website:

US Seniors:

2004
1st: 61.9%
2nd: 15.6%
3rd: 8.6%
4th: 4.8
>4: 9%
top 3: 86.1

2005
1st: 62.5%
2nd: 15%
3rd: 8.7%
4th: 4.7%
>4: 9.1%
top3: 86.2%


2006
1st: 60.1%
2nd: 15.5%
3rd: 9%
4th: 5.2%
>4: 10.2%
top 3: 84.6%
 
Good research dude.

Well this 3 yr data u gave, does it belong to AMG or FMG??? Can u clarify ???
 
the above data is for US Seniors.

Here is the data for non-US Seniors:
2006
1st: 50.4%
2nd: 19.1%
3rd: 11.2%
4th: 6.8%
>4: 12.6%

2005
1st: 52.4%
2nd: 19.6%
3rd: 10.7%
4th: 6.5%
>4: 10.8%

2004
1st: 52.2%
2nd: 19.5%
3rd: 11.8%
4th: 6.5%
>4: 9.9%
 
very nice to see such a reassuring thread at this point😀

it's also really interesting how little difference there is re: matching into one of your top 3 for US-MG's (84.6%) vs. FMG's (80.7%)
 
07match said:
very nice to see such a reassuring thread at this point😀

it's also really interesting how little difference there is re: matching into one of your top 3 for US-MG's (84.6%) vs. FMG's (80.7%)
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Because most of the bias/screening happens pre-interview (see Noodle's point)
 
Because most of the bias/screening happens pre-interview (see Noodle's point)
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so it must be reassuring for FMG's to see that after making it through the initial bias, the rest of the match process is very similar to US grads re: how far down their lists they go
 
So should you feel even more crappy if you don't get into your top 3?
 
dynx said:
So should you feel even more crappy if you don't get into your top 3?
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end your life if you go past 3. 🙄

by all means, feel as crappy as you want, but you'll never feel as crappy as someone who failed to match.
 
filter07 said:
the above data is for US Seniors.

Here is the data for non-US Seniors:
2006
1st: 50.4%
2nd: 19.1%
3rd: 11.2%
4th: 6.8%
>4: 12.6%

2005
1st: 52.4%
2nd: 19.6%
3rd: 10.7%
4th: 6.5%
>4: 10.8%

2004
1st: 52.2%
2nd: 19.5%
3rd: 11.8%
4th: 6.5%
>4: 9.9%
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I believe this is the stats for those that matched. For all independant applicants I believe its roughly 26% to the first choice and 10% to the second choice, and 53% for those that matched 4+ overall
 
These stats don't tell us a lot, simply since as noodle mentions, most of the screening goes on before the level of the interview. The stats can help you guess at your chance of matching at one of your top choices once you get your interview invites, though. These stats are not going to apply to every single applicant equally, though. For example, if your top 4 are Mass General, Brigham, UCSF, Hopkins, you might have a higher risk of going down to 3, 4 or 5 on your list vs. someone whose top 4 are U of Rochester, Dartmouth, then 2 of the SUNY schools, etc.
 
The main trick to have a high chance of matching is to get enough interviews and to rank enough programs. This is especially true for the less competitive ones, and/or ones that need more house staff (like IM and fp). It's pretty hard to not match if you rank 6 or 8 or 10 IM programs. It could still happen for derm, GI or cards, but would be unlikely for IM and fp, even if you are an IMG or something. The main way you can screw yourself over in one of the less competitive matches it to not have backup places, to not apply to enough programs, etc.
 
And remember-- these are the percentages of people who matched, not of all FMGs in the Match in general.
 
I think the "non-US seniors" category includes
a) folks who already graduated from US MD schools (but it was last year or another prior year...like if a person did general surg x 2 years then re-entered the Match to try and get urology or ortho, etc.)
b) osteopathic students entering the US MD/allopathic match
c) IMG (US resident or citizen who went to med school abroad)
d) FMG (non US citizen/resident from a foreign med school)

Doesn't it?
 
hmm, does anyone know the 2008 and 2007 percentages for U.S. seniors?
 
filter,
docjolly posted those above...just scroll on up the thread.
 
turkleton said:
I've done a few searches but have been unsuccessful. Does anyone know where you can find data on what percentage of IM applicants match in their top 2 choices? The things I've been seeing are 94% match in top 3 choices, ***when all fields are considered.***
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That's the catch, as I'd imagine the numbers for things like Derm/Ortho/Rads/Gas vs FM/IM are on very different ends of a spectrum. I wonder if there's a breakdown of this data by specialty...
 
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