Percentage of students who actually get in- what you really want to know

[HeatingHomer]

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I've been to a few interviews and found these numbers pretty interesting. I heard them directly from the admission staff not from some website. Let me know what you think.

Temple:
They received 4202 applications last year. Of those 685 were invited for an interview. Of those 295 got accepted. That means 16% of the applicants were invited. Of those 43% were accepted ,or 7% of total applicants got accepted. Pretty scary. This year, Brian, their recruitment coordinator, said that they will only send out 500 invitations and 280 acceptances. Assuming that they get a similar amount of applicants this year that means there is a 12% chance of being invited for an interview and a 6.6% chance of getting in.

U Conn:
They received 1500 applications last year. Of those only 150 were invited to interview. They sent out about 75 acceptances. That makes it a 10% chance of being invited for an interview and a 5% chance of getting in. The good news is that once you get an invitation, you have a 50% chance of getting in.

One school also mentioned that only 1/3 of all applicants will get accepted this year. 😱

If anyone has any correction or can add any more schools to this, please do so.

 

[1992Corolla]

I am so lucky....😱

 

[Dentisting]

I've been to a few interviews and found these numbers pretty interesting. I heard them directly from the admission staff not from some website. Let me know what you think.

Temple:
They received 4202 applications last year. Of those 685 were invited for an interview. Of those 295 got accepted. That means 16% of the applicants were invited. Of those 43% were accepted ,or 7% of total applicants got accepted. Pretty scary. This year, Brian, their recruitment coordinator, said that they will only send out 500 invitations and 280 acceptances. Assuming that they get a similar amount of applicants this year that means there is a 12% chance of being invited for an interview and a 6.6% chance of getting in.

U Conn:
They received 1500 applications last year. Of those only 150 were invited to interview. They sent out about 75 acceptances. That makes it a 10% chance of being invited for an interview and a 5% chance of getting in. The good news is that once you get an invitation, you have a 50% chance of getting in.

One school also mentioned that only 1/3 of all applicants will get accepted this year. 😱

If anyone has any correction or can add any more schools to this, please do so.

Although your numbers are very helpful, the fact that there are many other factors that contribute to a single acceptance makes those "chances" higher, or lower, for many people...

So a 6.6% may be the right number for average joe...

A .01% may be the right number for drop-out bob....

and a 40% may be the right number for straight A madonna.

 

[crrees]

^I have to disagree

those that are invited are competitive in some fashion

Just because the winds blowing alittle harder in one direction doesnt mean my penny doesnt have a 50/50 shot of landing heads or tails

 

[rose786]

I am so lucky....😱

Rub it in our faces why don't you? 🙄

 

[apollo2bd]

Well there are def. more people accepted than seats available because most of the Dec. 1st people have the best stats and get accepted to several schools and many of the first acceptance offers will probably be turned down. Even with great stats the percentage of people that actually get in to a particular school shows why its important to apply to a couple of schools, (I applied to 12) (though, I know a 3rd year at temple who only applied to temple and good for her she was obviously accepted).

Overall I'm pretty sure it is about 11-12 thousand people that apply each year for about 4,500 first year seats, so somewhere around 1/3 get accepted.

 

[supraman]

Thanks for the discouraging post

 

[TheWiredNerv]

I think it is a great post. People should know the reality of what they are trying to accomplish.

 

[SHC1984]

I agree some people have waaaay higher chances of getting accepted then others. Just look at Predents....isn't it obvious? Shunwei properly have a 110% chance of getting into dental school this year...

Although your numbers are very helpful, the fact that there are many other factors that contribute to a single acceptance makes those "chances" higher, or lower, for many people...

So a 6.6% may be the right number for average joe...

A .01% may be the right number for drop-out bob....

and a 40% may be the right number for straight A madonna.

 

[airsimon]

I agree some people have waaaay higher chances of getting accepted then others. Just look at Predents....isn't it obvious? Shunwei properly have a 110% chance of getting into dental school this year...

haha, no doubt.


I would say the majority of SDNers have a pretty good chance at getting in somewhere. We all have a lot of love for the profession. It would be interesting to see stats of the percentage of devout SDN'ers get in every year.

 

[OrangeStorm]

I am not surprised. At the places I've interviewed so far, sounds like you have one out of three chance to get accepted from the numbers they told us.

 

[Elipar]

The stats given would only apply if there existed a unique pool of applicants... i.e. if no one applied to more than one school. As already mentioned, someone who gets accepted to one school is no longer eligible for other schools. Additionally, even if acceptance is pure randomness, don't forget that odds are additive. If you have a 5% chance of being accepted into one school and you apply to 10 schools, you have a 50% chance of getting accepted into one of the 10 schools. So it's not as bad as it originally would seem.

 

[Streetwolf]

The stats given would only apply if there existed a unique pool of applicants... i.e. if no one applied to more than one school. As already mentioned, someone who gets accepted to one school is no longer eligible for other schools. Additionally, even if acceptance is pure randomness, don't forget that odds are additive. If you have a 5% chance of being accepted into one school and you apply to 10 schools, you have a 50% chance of getting accepted into one of the 10 schools. So it's not as bad as it originally would seem.

Actually that's not how it works. The odds in that case (just one school) would be ~31.5%.

Odds of not being accepted are nearly 60%. So the odds of *at least one* acceptance are just over 40%.

Still, a 2 in 5 shot if that's the only thing you are considering - the odds.

 

[apollo2bd]

Streetwolf,

Do you know anything about what the chances of being accepted to stony brook are if you are interviewed (not just apply) as an out of state applicant? Do you know how many out of state actually get interviewed. Also, I heard that stony brook is planning on accepting 25% of their class as out of state this year, do you know if that correct?

 

[dentstd]

Actually that's not how it works. The odds in that case (just one school) would be ~31.5%.

Odds of not being accepted are nearly 60%. So the odds of *at least one* acceptance are just over 40%.

Still, a 2 in 5 shot if that's the only thing you are considering - the odds.

That's not how "odds" work. If a person has a 5% chance of getting in, he has a .0525 odds of getting in. I'll let you figure how that number came out.

But you're right that Eli's applying faulty reasoning in the additive odds discussion.

 

[NewMexDent]

Streetwolf,

Do you know anything about what the chances of being accepted to stony brook are if you are interviewed (not just apply) as an out of state applicant? Do you know how many out of state actually get interviewed. Also, I heard that stony brook is planning on accepting 25% of their class as out of state this year, do you know if that correct?

You can find numbers for last years interviewed/accepted in the ADEA Guide to Dental Schools.

For Stony Brook:
in-state
applied: 413
interviewed: 165
accepted: 35
out-of-state
applied: 678
interviewed: 50
accepted: 4

 

[CCDD12]

I interviewed at temple....and im pretty sure brian said that as of NOW they have already gotten around 4,000 apps

 

[lollipop999]

You can find numbers for last years interviewed/accepted in the ADEA Guide to Dental Schools.

For Stony Brook:
in-state
applied: 413
interviewed: 165
accepted: 35
out-of-state
applied: 678
interviewed: 50
accepted: 4

There is no way this is correct. The class size at stony instate is 35. Well maybe every single person who got accepted enrolled. It could be possible but probably not. THe ADEA guide has at least 15 mistakes that I can find in 2 seconds

 

[Streetwolf]

There is no way this is correct. The class size at stony instate is 35. Well maybe every single person who got accepted enrolled. It could be possible but probably not. THe ADEA guide has at least 15 mistakes that I can find in 2 seconds

Numbers are probably off. There are 6 in my class out of state. They probably accept at least 10-15 out of state. But there are a LOT of people in state relative to out of state.

 

[apollo2bd]

Thanks for the replies

 

[SuperC]

The year I applied to UF, I believe the stat was for each spot, there were 20 applicants.

-C

 

[Streetwolf]

That's not how "odds" work. If a person has a 5% chance of getting in, he has a .0525 odds of getting in. I'll let you figure how that number came out.

But you're right that Eli's applying faulty reasoning in the additive odds discussion.

Okay fine the 'odds' are 0.46 to 1. I was talking about probability. I have no idea where that number you wrote came from.

Oh and I should add that I think they're increasing the # of out of staters at SB by a little bit. But don't expect too much.

 

[pharoh]

the numbers about temple are pretty close to what i remember brian saying when i interviewed there...he also talked about how competitive it has been getting and that as of right now (the pre- dec 1st pool) this is the most competitive that he has ever seen. at uop she mentioned something about the dat avg being near 21 or 22 (which is way higher than my stats).
it's the truth, it's competitive but not impossible. to all those out there, that think they have low chances of getting interviews just be patient...
i never thought i would get a single interview...i have gotten 6 invites, that's kinda leaning towards the anything is possible.
good luck to all of us...

 

[doc toothache]

I've been to a few interviews and found these numbers pretty interesting. I heard them directly from the admission staff not from some website. Let me know what you think.

Temple:
They received 4202 applications last year. Of those 685 were invited for an interview. Of those 295 got accepted. That means 16% of the applicants were invited. Of those 43% were accepted ,or 7% of total applicants got accepted. Pretty scary. This year, Brian, their recruitment coordinator, said that they will only send out 500 invitations and 280 acceptances. Assuming that they get a similar amount of applicants this year that means there is a 12% chance of being invited for an interview and a 6.6% chance of getting in.

U Conn:
They received 1500 applications last year. Of those only 150 were invited to interview. They sent out about 75 acceptances. That makes it a 10% chance of being invited for an interview and a 5% chance of getting in. The good news is that once you get an invitation, you have a 50% chance of getting in.

One school also mentioned that only 1/3 of all applicants will get accepted this year. 😱

If anyone has any correction or can add any more schools to this, please do so.

The 4k figure of applicants to Temple (NYU, Boston, Tufts) represents over 36% of the 12K+ total applicant pool. Of the 3907 applicants that were not accepted by Temple, statistically over 1400 were accepted elsewhere.

 

[UNR.Grad]

the numbers about temple are pretty close to what i remember brian saying when i interviewed there...he also talked about how competitive it has been getting and that as of right now (the pre- dec 1st pool) this is the most competitive that he has ever seen. at uop she mentioned something about the dat avg being near 21 or 22 (which is way higher than my stats).
it's the truth, it's competitive but not impossible. to all those out there, that think they have low chances of getting interviews just be patient...
i never thought i would get a single interview...i have gotten 6 invites, that's kinda leaning towards the anything is possible.
good luck to all of us...

There are more things than just stats that get you in. Dental schools want diversity now, especially those associated with the pipeline program, and try to fill their class with students from both genders, different races, diverse backgrounds, etc. If you are part of a certain applicant pool who is not represented in most dental school classes than lower stats will most likely be overlooked and they adcom will be interested; if you are part of the most common applicant pool, good stats etc. might be ignored and the adcom will not be interested.