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As an older student (27) who has had time to mature from a checkered past is it alright to mention drugs in my personal statement? I am leaning towards no but my best friend murdered in a drug deal had a significant effect on me.

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Depends. How would you use the topic? Do you have a hx of drug abuse yourself?
 
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I don't think you should mention drugs in your statement, especially anything about you ever using drugs. I agree that it could make for an uplifting tale of personal growth and triumph over hardship, but my understanding is that any sort of past drug abuse is a huge red flag for admissions committees because med students and doctors have to be trusted not to abuse prescription medications, despite having access to them.
 
I don't think you should mention drugs in your statement, especially anything about you ever using drugs. I agree that it could make for an uplifting tale of personal growth and triumph over hardship, but my understanding is that any sort of past drug abuse is a huge red flag for admissions committees because med students and doctors have to be trusted not to abuse prescription medications, despite having access to them.

very true.
 
If done skillfully this could be OK. If its an important part of who you are now then I'd talk to Lizzy about it and find a way to make it as positive as you possibly can. Just be sure not to mention it in passing without further explanation.
 
As an older student (27) who has had time to mature from a checkered past is it alright to mention drugs in my personal statement? I am leaning towards no but my best friend murdered in a drug deal had a significant effect on me.

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I subscribe to the philosophy: if you have to ask about it, it's generally not a good idea.
 
You might be able to pull it off, but I wouldn't risk it. I'm sure you can get by without it.
 
Agree that it is too risky. This PS is read by all the medical schools you apply to. You don't know who might be reading this at the other end. You could be annoying the adcom at best and totally antagonizing them at worst. Try to avoid controversial issues like this in your PS. Perhaps bring it up later down the road in secondaries or the interview, but definitiely not in your Personal Statement.
 
A terrible strategy if you really want to be admitted to med school. To depict yourself as someone with a troubled drug past whose best friend was murdered because of drug involvment, well, you will not be getting the priviledge of writing drug prescriptions. No judgment, just fact.
 
As has been said, if you have a drug abuse hx this is a major red flag. If you were helping a friend w said past but never had those problems yourself it could be used positively.
 
Revealing any sort of involvement with illegal recreational drugs in pharmacy admissions is basically suicide. Pharmacists handle drugs and are expected to be responsible and trustworthy. I'm sure this applies to those who hand out the prescriptions. I can see why you think it would make for a good story, but you never know if the person reading it will be some super uptight snooty person that will refuse to see your story for what it really is. Good luck.
 
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As an older student (27) who has had time to mature from a checkered past is it alright to mention drugs in my personal statement? I am leaning towards no but my best friend murdered in a drug deal had a significant effect on me.

Thanks

It's not a good idea to include in a personal statement because adcoms will have a knee-jerk reaction to any mention of illegal drugs and assume guilt by association.
 
I think it's too bad that the resounding consensus is 'no'... I would find someone who had come out of a drug past to be very strong. One of the smartest and strongest people I know is a recovered meth addict, so I suppose it changes my perspective on the subject.

However, I'm not an adcom, nor am I the average person... I can only offer my thoughts on the matter.
 
I think it's too bad that the resounding consensus is 'no'... I would find someone who had come out of a drug past to be very strong. One of the smartest and strongest people I know is a recovered meth addict, so I suppose it changes my perspective on the subject.

However, I'm not an adcom, nor am I the average person... I can only offer my thoughts on the matter.

Apparently, you do not know much about the relapse rates among drug addicts and alcoholics. Sadly, the rate is quite high. Google Josh Hamilton, the great baseball player. Ad Coms will be wary of an applicant with a drug past, that is a fact. The applicant may be the exception, but the ad coms will be reluctant to take a chance. Too many great applicants without the baggage.
 
Apparently, you do not know much about the relapse rates among drug addicts and alcoholics. Sadly, the rate is quite high. Google Josh Hamilton, the great baseball player. Ad Coms will be wary of an applicant with a drug past, that is a fact. The applicant may be the exception, but the ad coms will be reluctant to take a chance. Too many great applicants without the baggage.

I do know about the relapse rate. And I do understand why they would be wary. I just don't think that former drug addicts should just be tossed aside without much thought. Every person should be treated subjectively, in my belief. I am not an adcom, so my belief does not change the admissions process at all.

I didn't say he should put it in his statement, I was bringing up my own view in an attempt to be supportive of the OP.
 
Hello...I am going to use a quote from Gandhi in my personal statement, and was wondering if anyone knows whether I should cite the quote at the end of my personal statement.

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Hello...I am going to use a quote from Gandhi in my personal statement, and was wondering if anyone knows whether I should cite the quote at the end of my personal statement.

Thanks!

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Best thing would be to state his name either before introducing the quote or afterwards. You gotta cite, and there's no works cited page for this bad boy.
 
I agree with the other posters on how this would be a risky topic to talk about, but I can also see how this statement would definitely get your application noticed and set you apart from all of the other traditional personal statements in the pile.

The question then becomes, will it get you noticed in a positive or a negative way?

In answering that, ask yourself:

1. How long has it been since that incident and your previous drug usage?
Hopefully at least 7+ years, if any sooner than it might be too risky

2. What have you personally and academically accomplished since that time, have you had meaningful employment with strong LORs, great academic transcript with strong LORs? If its mediocore or below the average for the schools your targeting than I wouldn't risk it.

3. How well can you write? Would your personal statement really reflect what you've learned from and how you've grown from this? I mean the best drug addiction counselors (just say no advicits) are usually the ones that have also experimented with drugs and have seen the negative aspects of those drugs - so much that they would actually be more likely to say no then those that have never experienced them if in that situation. Can you convey this type of tone in your PS?


If after asking yourself those questions you feel that it would not be considered negative well then go for it. Although I still feel that some schools will toss your application there will be some that don't. And the schools that don't will almost inevitably call you for an interview -which is a huge advantage - as you would be a truly unique applicant in addition to them wanting to verify in person that you have matured enough and moved beyond that stage of life. If you interview well and can again convey the tone in your PS that you have matured and learned from the experience, well then you'll probably get an acceptance. Who knows you might be surprised at how many interviews a 'pull yourself up from the trenches' type of story commands.

However, to be on the safe side, if I were you I would draft two seperate copies of your personal statement, one with and one without the drug usage and then talk a paid medical school admissions counselor prior to deciding whether this is a good idea or not. I recommend writing both copies prior to advising for the mere fact that you might possibly end up in a situation were your PS could be very un-original, boring, and weak in the version in which you didn't include the drug abuse in. Which at the end of the day is just as detrimental to some schools, as you probably won't even get noticed or remembered enough to even get an interview.
 
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Previous drug use or checkered past or whatever, given there was enough time between then and now, has nothing to do with how good of a doctor you're going to be or how decent of a person you are or whatever.

A previous poster mentioned obama, notice that he's not a better president or a worse president because he used cocaine when he was in college. Notice he's not a better person or a worse person because he used cocaine.

The OP question was, mentioning drugs in the PS.

No. Again, it's too risky and unnecessary.

Are there no other compelling reasons that you'd be a good doctor besides your previous drug use or checkered past and your friend's death?

If you can't make a compelling case without it then I say go ahead and mention these things BUT, if you can't make a compelling case without it you probably don't have a chance anyways.
 
Previous drug use or checkered past or whatever, given there was enough time between then and now, has nothing to do with how good of a doctor you're going to be or how decent of a person you are or whatever.

A previous poster mentioned obama, notice that he's not a better president or a worse president because he used cocaine when he was in college. Notice he's not a better person or a worse person because he used cocaine.

That's very debatable. How do you know? You have no basis for comparison.

You say "notice" as if there's some obvious example to justify your statements. There isn't.
 
As an older student (27) who has had time to mature from a checkered past is it alright to mention drugs in my personal statement? I am leaning towards no but my best friend murdered in a drug deal had a significant effect on me.

Thanks

I know people make mistakes. I also know that some people learn from those mistakes.

That being said, if I were on a committee, and I was deciding on whether or not someone should be placed ahead of the thousands of other well-qualified, did not make these mistakes and perhaps have learned life lessons in other ways people, and I read the words "MURDER," "DRUGS," and "DEAL(ING)," it would most likely be game over.

Do what you think best after you get some advice from someone QUALIFIED to offer it in this case and good luck!
 
Good for you for making some positive life changes. You pick and choose what information to include about yourself in a PS and this info just isn't worth the risk. The person that reads your PS doesn't know you and doesn't like you. Your job is to make them know you and like you.. this will not help accomplish that, period.
 
That's very debatable. How do you know? You have no basis for comparison.

You say "notice" as if there's some obvious example to justify your statements. There isn't.


I'm just saying if cocaine has either enhanced or decreased his capacity as president or character, it's not obvious to me.

He's a good president (or a bad president) for other reasons besides his cocaine use. He may believe that he's a good person, or a great parent or whatever, and the list of reasons he would include would probably have nothing to do with his cocaine use in the past.

He has a more compelling profile than that and I'm just saying I hope the op has other compelling reasons or narratives that he finds motivating to become a doctor.

BESIDES STORIES WITH DRUGS AND "CHECKERED PASTS" OR WHATEVER>

Also, notice, you're an idiot.

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I'm just saying if cocaine has either enhanced or decreased his capacity as president or character, it's not obvious to me.

He's a good president (or a bad president) for other reasons besides his cocaine use. He may believe that he's a good person, or a great parent or whatever, and the list of reasons he would include would probably have nothing to do with his cocaine use in the past.

He has a more compelling profile than that and I'm just saying I hope the op has other compelling reasons or narratives that he finds motivating to become a doctor.

BESIDES STORIES WITH DRUGS AND "CHECKERED PASTS" OR WHATEVER>

Also, notice, you're an idiot.

😀

Obama did not go to medical school, so this is irrelevant. In any case, I doubt he actually used cocaine. I think he just says he did so that people can relate to him.

To the OP, I wouldn't mention drug use. AdComs don't take risks, and neither should you.
 
An assumption being made is that OP is referring to personal drug use. I will agree with everyone else here that referring to personal drug use may be an unnecessary risk, but that doesn't mean that talking about drugs around you is a no-no.

OP has a very important life experience in his friend's murder, which may, in fact, strengthen his application. I would need to know more details to better assess this.
 
Obama did not go to medical school, so this is irrelevant. In any case, I doubt he actually used cocaine. I think he just says he did so that people can relate to him.

To the OP, I wouldn't mention drug use. AdComs don't take risks, and neither should you.
IMO, I doubt that Obama lied about his cocaine use so others could relate to him as a regular everyday person. I think marijuana would have been a much more suitable drug to use in a lie like that. One-third of Americans have used marijuana and marijuana has less of a stigma than cocaine.

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I'm just saying if cocaine has either enhanced or decreased his capacity as president or character, it's not obvious to me.

He's a good president (or a bad president) for other reasons besides his cocaine use. He may believe that he's a good person, or a great parent or whatever, and the list of reasons he would include would probably have nothing to do with his cocaine use in the past.

Using examples from an alternate reality is not a strong argument. You haven't seen him without drug use, only with it. Thus you can't compare to two. BTW, this have nothing to do with Obama, per se, it holds true for anyone.

Also, notice, you're an idiot.

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Now you're taking this to a personal level? 😕

You have some serious growing up to do. A good starting point would be to stop ending your sentences with "or whatever."
 
Before we continue this discussion, I NEED this question ANSWERED.

OP, IS THAT YOUR REAL NAME?

If it is, see bleargh's avatar.
 
OP, assuming you had used drugs:

If you have a drug charge of any kind on your record, then mentioning it in a positive way would probably be a good idea, but either way your chances are greatly diminished. If you had a drug record and got it expunged, do not mention it. A previous poster is correct that the longer ago your drug use, the better. There's going to be a difference between being a drug user 10 years ago and 1 year ago. But if it's on your record anyway, you'll want to mention it to account for it in the most positive possible way. Hopefully there are other significant things in your life so it doesn't dominate your PS, aside from probably being the most interesting part. AMCAS asks for misdemeanors and felonies only, but most schools will ask for non-traffic infractions.
 
Peter Whitman is a name from a movie not my real name.

I never had a drug problem/ addiction although I had been around drugs. Like I said I was leaning towards not mentioning it. My friends death simply served to show me what was important in life and led to a night and day change in my grades and attitude. This seems to be a very touchy subject so I 'm glad we could discuss it.

Thanks for all the replies
 
Peter Whitman is a name from a movie not my real name.

I never had a drug problem/ addiction although I had been around drugs. Like I said I was leaning towards not mentioning it. My friends death simply served to show me what was important in life and led to a night and day change in my grades and attitude. This seems to be a very touchy subject so I 'm glad we could discuss it.

Thanks for all the replies

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