Pharm question - angina

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Why are beta blockers contraindicated in variant (Prinzmetal) angina?

The only thing I can come up with is that they all have slight B2 antagonism that worsens the angina, but is that enough to offset the B1 blocking effects?
 
Why are beta blockers contraindicated in variant (Prinzmetal) angina?

The only thing I can come up with is that they all have slight B2 antagonism that worsens the angina, but is that enough to offset the B1 blocking effects?

I believe that is the reason. The solution to Prinzmetal is to get the smooth muscle in the Coronaries to relax. Even a mild antagonism to B2 will be VERY DETRIMENTAL. Also, since there is no actual blockage in Prinzmetal, it is my understanding that Nitrates will usually clear it up.
 
Why are beta blockers contraindicated in variant (Prinzmetal) angina?

The only thing I can come up with is that they all have slight B2 antagonism that worsens the angina, but is that enough to offset the B1 blocking effects?

Oh Yes.
 
I think it is because if you use Beta Blockers, you leave the alpha receptors unopposed.
 
I think it is because if you use Beta Blockers, you leave the alpha receptors unopposed.

Bingo! Remember that beta receptors generally cause vasodilation...primarily beta-2 in skeletal muscle. Beta-1 selective blockers are simply that- selective, but not completely specific for Beta 1.

Blocking beta receptors, alpha receptors on the vasculature are left unopposed...theoretically could cause a problem in someone with vasospastic angina. It's not really a big concern otherwise, unless you are treating a cocaine overdose or something along those lines.
 
Bingo! Remember that beta receptors generally cause vasodilation...primarily beta-2 in skeletal muscle. Beta-1 selective blockers are simply that- selective, but not completely specific for Beta 1.

Blocking beta receptors, alpha receptors on the vasculature are left unopposed...theoretically could cause a problem in someone with vasospastic angina. It's not really a big concern otherwise, unless you are treating a cocaine overdose or something along those lines.

What I don't understand is this:
There are very few beta 2 receptors on the cardiac vasculature, and beta 1 agonists have very slight beta 2 activity, and yet this is enough to offset any potential gain from the decrease in myocardial O2 consumption. I just don't see it, unless doctors are just trying to avoid getting sued.

Whatever, I'll let it go. I don't have time to be looking up articles on it.
 
What I don't understand is this:
There are very few beta 2 receptors on the cardiac vasculature, and beta 1 agonists have very slight beta 2 activity, and yet this is enough to offset any potential gain from the decrease in myocardial O2 consumption. I just don't see it, unless doctors are just trying to avoid getting sued.

Whatever, I'll let it go. I don't have time to be looking up articles on it.

The coronary vasculature has beta-2 receptors in modest quantities as does skeletal muscle. Look at a Goodman and Gilmans if you need to prove it to yourself. Blockade of these receptors upsets the balance between constriction and vasodilation. Less vasodilation = more constriction. Myocardial O2 consumption isn't the primary problem to be addressed- it's myocardial O2 delivery. Fix the vasospasm, and the angina resolves. People with variant angina are probably more sensitive to these effects b/c they have heightened parasympathetic tone.
 
The unopposed alpha receptor concept is pretty theoretical, and most attendings I know dismiss it.
However, they don't use them in cocaine overdoses simply because there is so much "support" of it even as a Level C statement, that you wouldn't be able to stand on much in court if it came up.
 
B Blockers like 'propranolo' shoulden't be the treatment for 'angina' in most cases cuz they worsen the angina. I know that we can use them in very very special cases if we don't have any other available drug.
 
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