Pharm Question

[dinesh]

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IIex paraguariensis

Person drank that and came in with muscarinic blockage poisoning?
Dry Skin, oral mucous membranes were dry, non reactive pupils , dever and bowel sounds were absent.

Overstimulation of the muscarinic produces
diahorea, frequent urination, miosis(contraction of eye) , increased GI motitility, increased lacrimation, sweating and salivation.
So something in that yea from the IP cuased blockage of the Muscarinic receptors?

Anticholinergic poisoning? The alkaloids present, atropine, scopolamine etc would of blocked the Muscarinic receptors?


A good treatment for this would be ....muscarinic agonist?or maybe an anticholinesterase?

 

[trauma_junky]

IIex paraguariensis

Person drank that and came in with muscarinic blockage poisoning?
Dry Skin, oral mucous membranes were dry, non reactive pupils , dever and bowel sounds were absent.

Overstimulation of the muscarinic produces
diahorea, frequent urination, miosis(contraction of eye) , increased GI motitility, increased lacrimation, sweating and salivation.
So something in that yea from the IP cuased blockage of the Muscarinic receptors?

Anticholinergic poisoning? The alkaloids present, atropine, scopolamine etc would of blocked the Muscarinic receptors?


A good treatment for this would be ....muscarinic agonist?or maybe an anticholinesterase?

What were their vitals? GCS? Pupils are fixed at pinpoint or dialated? A quick search on this shows it has high amounts of Methyxanthines (Xanthine, theophylline and theobromine as well as ephedra) . I think you should look more a sympathetic excess due to adrenergic excess. If this person is on MOI's this would only amplify the problem. Your intial treatment would consist of CV stabilization, plus prepare for seizures and hyperthermia. If GCS is altered a CT scan would be a good idea...(make sure they arn't hemmoraging anywhere between the ears) I'm assuming all trauma was rulled out as well.

Labetalol will controll the beta side of things, I can't think of a good alpha antagonist at this point. And I am not hip on the current treatment protocol for sympathomemetic overdose, but probablly similar to cocaine overdoese.

of coarse what do I know, I'm just an over educated paramedic.

 

[dinesh]

Pupils were fixed and dialited and unresponsive to light.

I believe it was atropine poisoning?