Pharmacist Salary Thread

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True, but at the end of the day, there are bills to pay and 6 figure loans to pay back. If photographers and travel writers didn't make such crap wages (on average), I'd have gone that route.

I'm a realist, I don't love this field I'm going into...but it'll buy me the lifestyle I want and not drive me crazy 8-12 hours a day while I'm at work.

I wish I could live one day as Anthony Bourdain, Samantha Brown, or Andrew Zimmerman 🙁 Those people have it made ^^
 
I wish I could live one day as Anthony Bourdain, Samantha Brown, or Andrew Zimmerman 🙁 Those people have it made ^^

Nah, if you gonna choose who has it made it would have to be: Melinda Gates, Adriana Lima, Angelina Jolie, Orpah, Madonna, Paris Hilton.

I would trade pharmacy with any of the ABOVE anytime/anyday. Everyone would.
 
True, but at the end of the day, there are bills to pay and 6 figure loans to pay back. If photographers and travel writers didn't make such crap wages (on average), I'd have gone that route.

I'm a realist, I don't love this field I'm going into...but it'll buy me the lifestyle I want and not drive me crazy 8-12 hours a day while I'm at work.

Everyone knows this and this is true for everyone, however some people have a hard time admitting to this.
 
I can't believe some of you are still groaning and moaning about that poorly written article. It references 2 or 3 people he's heard from and blames it on the entire pharmacy school system. I wish I could find the paper I had earlier which was written within the last year and really broke down the numbers to include the pharmacy school openings.

I agree with what confetti and passion have been saying, but also to the op, your pharmacist prob got a cut because the economy sucks right now and most chains are suffering. It's not going to drop nearly 40% in a heartbeat. Geez.


Not enough Doom and Gloom. PLz fix
 
Assuming you mean more demand, I completely agree with you. I don't have all that much sympathy for people complaining that there's no jobs around when what they really mean is that there's no jobs downtown in a huge metropolitan area. Granted, my case is probably different than many since I live in Illinois which is made up of a lot of rural area. Even still, I did a quick search on indeed.com (great site by the way), and found literally HUNDREDS of pharmacist openings in the state of Illinois alone. Of course some of them are sure to be duplicates and require quite a bit of experience, but I call BS on people saying there are almost NO jobs left.

It's certainally possible (and probably likely) that salaries will go down somewhat in the near future, but they're not going to be cut in half overnight.

Yes more demand. I did not save it after editing.
 
True, but at the end of the day, there are bills to pay and 6 figure loans to pay back. If photographers and travel writers didn't make such crap wages (on average), I'd have gone that route.

I'm a realist, I don't love this field I'm going into...but it'll buy me the lifestyle I want and not drive me crazy 8-12 hours a day while I'm at work.

Trust me I understand what you mean, but if lifestyle is something you crave I think you need to determine what about the lifestyle you desire. If it is money you are much better off doing something different. You figure as a pharmacist you will work 40+ hours per week or 2080+ hours per year in doing something you do not love, i.e. you will be working for that money. A potential opportunity for you would be work part time as a pharmacist and still do the photography or travel writer thing as a freelance worker. Best of both worlds as you will have steady income and time to do what you love. If it is freedom you crave, being locked in a room for 8-12 hour days just doesn't seem like freedom.

Not that I make a ton of money because I don't, but with mine and my wife's income we are in the $150K per year ballpark and we live in Kentucky. We have zero debt besides the mortgage. If I had any job satisfaction at all I wouldn't go back to school, but I know how i am hard wired so this is inevitable for me. Money and material things do not bring happiness. In my opinion, relationships you build with people and positively impacting somebody's life is far more important to me.
 
I guess from a different geographical perspective, even 100 grand may seem like a lot.. But here in New York, you need a 100k just to be comfortable.. Would I go in to pharmacy if future salaries are really going to be as low as 40/hr? Nope. I think you're being a little dramatic with that figure. I make more than 40/hr cocktail waitressing..and then some!

I don't understand why everyone talks about 100k as if its a million bucks or something... at the end of the day, if you have a family and that is your primary income, your middle class, no?

Elle
 
I guess from a different geographical perspective, even 100 grand may seem like a lot.. But here in New York, you need a 100k just to be comfortable.. Would I go in to pharmacy if future salaries are really going to be as low as 40/hr? Nope. I think you're being a little dramatic with that figure. I make more than 40/hr cocktail waitressing..and then some!

I don't understand why everyone talks about 100k as if its a million bucks or something... at the end of the day, if you have a family and that is your primary income, your middle class, no?

Elle

I don't think you can compare your tip-based (read: looks-based) profession to anything else. I mean, there are exotic dancers and escorts that can probably net double of what any Pharmacist ever will, but does that mean they're comparable? Not in the slightest.

I think by the time you find out that Pharmacist jobs are being paid $40/hour in general, it'll be too late. I mean, salaries and hours are already being cut slightly, that's a fact in almost every demographic bar the super-short areas like some places in Texas.

Everyone's idea of comfortable is different. Even in California, where real estate is every bit as expensive as it is in NYC in basically every area (Including where I like to live, the bay area), I could comfortably live on $85,000 a year. I don't consider needing an AMG SL500 and a 7 bedroom house on the hills to be a comfortable existence. Some people do, and that's the point - If you are dead set on Pharmacy for the money, you're going to be very disappointed Elle, unless you've got plans to do something other than retail (i.e., nuclear pharmacy).
 
I don't think you can compare your tip-based (read: looks-based) profession to anything else. I mean, there are exotic dancers and escorts that can probably net double of what any Pharmacist ever will, but does that mean they're comparable? Not in the slightest.

I think by the time you find out that Pharmacist jobs are being paid $40/hour in general, it'll be too late. I mean, salaries and hours are already being cut slightly, that's a fact in almost every demographic bar the super-short areas like some places in Texas.

Everyone's idea of comfortable is different. Even in California, where real estate is every bit as expensive as it is in NYC in basically every area (Including where I like to live, the bay area), I could comfortably live on $85,000 a year. I don't consider needing an AMG SL500 and a 7 bedroom house on the hills to be a comfortable existence. Some people do, and that's the point - If you are dead set on Pharmacy for the money, you're going to be very disappointed Elle, unless you've got plans to do something other than retail (i.e., nuclear pharmacy).
i want to live next to lauren conrad woot woot.

"HEY LAUREN IT'S ME, YOUR PHARMACIST, I FILLED YOUR BIRTH CONTROL YESTERDAY, REMEMBER!" haha
 
I guess from a different geographical perspective, even 100 grand may seem like a lot.. But here in New York, you need a 100k just to be comfortable.. Would I go in to pharmacy if future salaries are really going to be as low as 40/hr? Nope. I think you're being a little dramatic with that figure. I make more than 40/hr cocktail waitressing..and then some!

I don't understand why everyone talks about 100k as if its a million bucks or something... at the end of the day, if you have a family and that is your primary income, your middle class, no?

Elle

Why don't you just switch major to acting and go to hollywood to try to make it big... You don't even know how shady the entertainment circle is, it's just not realistic to make tons of money without sacrificing your body and dignity.
 
Why don't you just switch major to acting and go to hollywood to try to make it big... You don't even know how shady the entertainment circle is, it's just not realistic to make tons of money without sacrificing your body and dignity.

I argue, as a cocktail waitress, she has sacrificed both of those already.
 
Trust me I understand what you mean, but if lifestyle is something you crave I think you need to determine what about the lifestyle you desire. If it is money you are much better off doing something different. You figure as a pharmacist you will work 40+ hours per week or 2080+ hours per year in doing something you do not love, i.e. you will be working for that money. A potential opportunity for you would be work part time as a pharmacist and still do the photography or travel writer thing as a freelance worker. Best of both worlds as you will have steady income and time to do what you love. If it is freedom you crave, being locked in a room for 8-12 hour days just doesn't seem like freedom.

Not that I make a ton of money because I don't, but with mine and my wife's income we are in the $150K per year ballpark and we live in Kentucky. We have zero debt besides the mortgage. If I had any job satisfaction at all I wouldn't go back to school, but I know how i am hard wired so this is inevitable for me. Money and material things do not bring happiness. In my opinion, relationships you build with people and positively impacting somebody's life is far more important to me.

Right, I agree with you there.

BUT...I need to be able to pay for a house in California, be FTE for health benefits, and be able to send future kids to college. $100k will put me right into the middle class in CA.

The significant other will be running the creative/business end of things so we're going to take advantage of the fact that I have a PharmD (and its stability) to lock us in with health benefits/money for the mortgage & food while we explore entrepreneurial options on her end. If that takes off, you can bet I'll go PT as a pharmacist and do something else.

To those suggesting I just "follow my dreams" and go headlong into a field that can barely feed/clothe you....my response is, I'm not selfish. Stop feeding me that garbage you get when you're 18 and living out of your parents' wallet and come live in the real world for a while.
 
I argue, as a cocktail waitress, she has sacrificed both of those already.


Um, I never said I wanted to be in the entertainment industry, drive a benz, or that I was only going in to Pharmacy for money..That would be counterintuitive to my intial post, in which said that I didn't think pharmacy salaries were all that high in comparison to the cost of living in New York. I have MANY different reasons for choosing this path, as I'm sure most do.

I think in any career its important to have an idea about salary, and I would be lying if it wasn't A FACTOR in my decision. Is it the driving factor? Certainly not!

Finally, I think its really presumptuous, RUDE, judgemental, and MOSTLY disrespectful for you to say that because I serve drinks for a living that I've sacrificed my body and my dignity? Did you really say that?

I usually enjoy reading your posts because you strike me as a very interesting, intelligent person..But I'm disgusted, shame on you to say something like that! Bartending and cocktail waitressing DOES NOT equal prostitution..I'd make WAY more if I were a prostitute ;-)

Furthermore, I have a job that is fun, stimulating, lucrative and I only work three days and make bank..So don't judge me or my job. I think its demeaning to work like a slave for minimum wage, but I don't tell people at McDonalds or Techs at Walgreens that they are sacrificing their dignity.. Are you kidding me? Ugh.

Elle
 
Um, I never said I wanted to be in the entertainment industry, drive a benz, or that I was only going in to Pharmacy for money..That would be counterintuitive to my intial post, in which said that I didn't think pharmacy salaries were all that high in comparison to the cost of living in New York. I have MANY different reasons for choosing this path, as I'm sure most do.

I think in any career its important to have an idea about salary, and I would be lying if it wasn't A FACTOR in my decision. Is it the driving factor? Certainly not!

Finally, I think its really presumptuous, RUDE, judgemental, and MOSTLY disrespectful for you to say that because I serve drinks for a living that I've sacrificed my body and my dignity? Did you really say that?

I usually enjoy reading your posts because you strike me as a very interesting, intelligent person..But I'm disgusted, shame on you to say something like that! Bartending and cocktail waitressing DOES NOT equal prostitution..I'd make WAY more if I were a prostitute ;-)

Furthermore, I have a job that is fun, stimulating, lucrative and I only work three days and make bank..So don't judge me or my job. I think its demeaning to work like a slave for minimum wage, but I don't tell people at McDonalds or Techs at Walgreens that they are sacrificing their dignity.. Are you kidding me? Ugh.

Elle

I have done some bartending and waitressing too and I agree with you that it does not have anything to do with prostitution. It does pay very well and sometimes even more than working at Hooters.

Passion4Sci is an intelligent person, but he also has a sense of humor too and I am sure he is just kidding. 🙂
 
Hmm..I didn't think for one second he was joking, but then again -- never can tell with the internet.

I have done some bartending and waitressing too and I agree with you that it does not have anything to do with prostitution. It does pay very well and sometimes even more than working at Hooters.

Passion4Sci is an intelligent person, but he also has a sense of humor too and I am sure he is just kidding. 🙂
 
Hmm..I didn't think for one second he was joking, but then again -- never can tell with the internet.

Not sure either. I have seen him joke about on somethings, but I guess you never know since it is the internet. 😕
 
people keep talking about times 10-15 years after they graduate. The years of experience will give an advantage over new graduates. Besides at that point you can be making the larger pay and not have to switch to a job that is going to be a 40K cut if by some chance that happened.

I believe the schools will be limited on their number of graduates to keep the field from being saturated and having the pay drop.

I imagine the way pay would drop is if we went to a universal healthcare system and the profession doesn't fight hard enough to keep their incomes.

The pharmacy association has no say over closing down programs due to over saturation. A few weeks ago there was an article in Pharmacy Times, with the Editor being worried about the ever increasing output of grads and that they don't have any control over how many grads they put out. The system corrects itself by meeting demand not holding it back.
 
People with only highschool diplomas make 40K a year. Hell, I know high school drop outs that make that much. Why would someone with a doctorate settle for the same salary as someone with no degree at all? 🙄
 
People with only highschool diplomas make 40K a year. Hell, I know high school drop outs that make that much. Why would someone with a doctorate settle for the same salary as someone with no degree at all? 🙄

Exactly. Hell, even if pharmacist salaries dropped down to $50-60 k, why should they work for such little money? That's only slightly above what a person with a high school diploma could make. A health care professional such as a pharmacist or dentist with a PROFESSIONAL DEGREE/DOCTORATE should be entitled to a minimum of $80 k per year and no less. No wonder children nowadays don't want to go to school and better themselves; they realize from an early age one can go to school for many years and make the kind of money someone with far less education can earn; they realize you don't have to work that hard to make money. Want to make $40 k or more? Just work at a bar.
 
People with only highschool diplomas make 40K a year. Hell, I know high school drop outs that make that much. Why would someone with a doctorate settle for the same salary as someone with no degree at all? 🙄

What kind of high school diploma-only people do you know? The numbers I've seen based on statistics (and simple reasoning) are low 20's for HS/GED and mid 30's for BA/BS. We are talking about average starting salaries, right?
 
What kind of high school diploma-only people do you know? The numbers I've seen based on statistics (and simple reasoning) are low 20's for HS/GED and mid 30's for BA/BS. We are talking about average starting salaries, right?

I think it depends on the major you choose. I am a chem major - and like many of us who have busted our tush in some of the hardest classes in the whole university, 30k/year isn't worth my time. I might as well just start up a tutoring service for all the premed hopefuls who are failing genchem or orgo or even their AP Chem classes and make just as much if not more 😛 (I've done it in my spare time in the past, and it is good money!)
 
What kind of high school diploma-only people do you know? The numbers I've seen based on statistics (and simple reasoning) are low 20's for HS/GED and mid 30's for BA/BS. We are talking about average starting salaries, right?

I don't know any facts or stats, but I do know restaurant owners that make way more than a pharmacists or doctor for that fact and they don't have any college education. There are people that invest their money in land/real estate/stocks and make BIG bucks as well, with NO college education. I use to be a bartender/waitress in upscale areas and I made more than 40K a year.

However now that I am a pharmacy techinican I am BROKE, BROKE, BROKE. Its the LOWEST paying job I have ever held in my life. 🙁
 
I have held several office manager positions that paid $45,000 a year and that was without any type of degree and was about ten years ago.

So, no, I would not want to indebt myself to the tune of $150,000+, spend six years pursuing the required education, another year interning, and then spend fifteen years or more living like a pauper to pay back those huge loans on $45,000/yr. Why would anyone do this...it would be financial suicide. I would have been better off keeping the office manager position which required very little training, and had no real stress except the requisite office politics.

Now if you asked if someone would do this for $75,000 a year that would make more sense really. To be honest at $45,000 a year after paying taxes and making school loan payments you would be lucky to be able to afford to live on your own.
 
Honestly, I probably would. Then again, I live in rural America and not in an urban area. To put the difference into perspective... A *very* nice 3 bedroom apartment in my area will cost you about $450-$500/mo. A very nice 2500 sq. ft. home with excellent finishes will run you about $150,000.00 if you have it built for you.

That being said... I could live off of $45,000.00/yr. as long as I had the job security and well being that comes along with it.

Now, throw some kids into the mix, and I probably would go back to school and pick up the pre-med req's to switch careers. I want my children to be able to grow up with all the opportunities in the world.
 
I don't know any facts or stats, but I do know restaurant owners that make way more than a pharmacists or doctor for that fact and they don't have any college education. There are people that invest their money in land/real estate/stocks and make BIG bucks as well, with NO college education. I use to be a bartender/waitress in upscale areas and I made more than 40K a year.

However now that I am a pharmacy techinican I am BROKE, BROKE, BROKE. Its the LOWEST paying job I have ever held in my life. 🙁

That makes more sense if these are the people that have worked their way up (or banked on luck). It's certainly something not everyone can get into. We might as well bring up Bill Gates.
 
I have held several office manager positions that paid $45,000 a year and that was without any type of degree and was about ten years ago.

So, no, I would not want to indebt myself to the tune of $150,000+, spend six years pursuing the required education, another year interning, and then spend fifteen years or more living like a pauper to pay back those huge loans on $45,000/yr. Why would anyone do this...it would be financial suicide. I would have been better off keeping the office manager position which required very little training, and had no real stress except the requisite office politics.

Now if you asked if someone would do this for $75,000 a year that would make more sense really. To be honest at $45,000 a year after paying taxes and making school loan payments you would be lucky to be able to afford to live on your own.

It will be impossible to live on $75,000 a year if you have a student debt of 150K. Unless you are talking about $75,000 AFTER taxes that is. Student loans are a B*tch! 🙁
 
If the cost of education would also go down, then yes.
 
IF the starting salary for a pharmacist was 45K/ Year would you still do it?
I would say no and my reason would be my inability to make my loan payments after pharmacy school. It flat out wouldn't make any sense financially (ie: 40K Salary and 225K Loan Debt)
 
Anybody who says they would do pharmacy if it was $45K regardless of money is either lying or insane. Why spend $120K + undergrad?
I'm sure most of these people have either never made $45K in their lives or never had school loans over $100K because it makes absolutely no sense to spend an eternity in school and to rack up a mountain of debt to make only $45K. Even if schools reduced the tuition to match the salary, it still doesn't make sense to go to school for an extra 2-4 years and to put yourself through the stress of pharmacy school for only $45K. From a purely financial standpoint, there are easier ways to make $45K without going through such drastic measures.
 
I'm sure most of these people have either never made $45K in their lives or never had school loans over $100K because it makes absolutely no sense to spend an eternity in school and to rack up a mountain of debt to make only $45K. Even if schools reduced the tuition to match the salary, it still doesn't make sense to go to school for an extra 2-4 years and to put yourself through the stress of pharmacy school for only $45K. From a purely financial standpoint, there are easier ways to make $45K without going through such drastic measures.

People go through grad school in the sciences and make around $40K when they graduate. They often have much less student loans, because they get a stipend during grad school. But for having a PhD, they don't make much, unless they leave academia.

If they stay in academia, they may make at most around $70-90K eventually, but it takes awhile.

Why do they do all that school for not that much money? Because they want to. They enjoy research and they want to stay in academia.
 
People with only highschool diplomas make 40K a year. Hell, I know high school drop outs that make that much. Why would someone with a doctorate settle for the same salary as someone with no degree at all? 🙄
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You can tell who has been working and who hasnt...

Decrease in salary isnt what Im worried about... Working for a bad boss and not being able to leave is what keeps me up at night.
 
People with only highschool diplomas make 40K a year. Hell, I know high school drop outs that make that much. Why would someone with a doctorate settle for the same salary as someone with no degree at all? 🙄

Hell, median salary for my area is $32,000. Only 65% of residents 25 and over have a high school diploma. Population below the national poverty level is something like 25%.

$45,000 will get you good living around here... once the loans are gone.
 
Hey guys, I hope there is someone out there that can answer this question about salary and vacations at Krogers, Publix, Target and Walgreens in Atlanta.

How much do full time staff pharmacist earn at Krogers, Publix, Target and Walgreens make a year and/or hour?

How many weeks vacation are they given starting out and when do the number of weeks increase?

How often are they paid at Publix and Target, I know Kroger is every 4 weeks and Walgreens is every 2 weeks.

I already know about the working conditions and schedules and I heard the worst company to work for in Atlanta is CVS, Kroger, Publix, Target, and Walgreens are pretty laid back in Atlanta.

I have not spoken with a recruiter yet and my manager and I work for a Hospital Pharmacy now, so no one can tell me much about retail.
 
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God, I really hope it doesn't get that way. If I didn't have debt, I guess I'd take it. 🙁
 
Kroger would be $114,000 to $120,000 or so, 2 weeks vacation after you have worked 12 months. Insurance is cheap, about $100 per month for medical, dental, vision combined if you are single. If you have a busy store with a lot of overlap, you often get 1 hour for lunch and work only every 3rd or 4th weekend, so working conditions are good.
 
I guess from a different geographical perspective, even 100 grand may seem like a lot.. But here in New York, you need a 100k just to be comfortable.. Would I go in to pharmacy if future salaries are really going to be as low as 40/hr? Nope. I think you're being a little dramatic with that figure. I make more than 40/hr cocktail waitressing..and then some!

I don't understand why everyone talks about 100k as if its a million bucks or something... at the end of the day, if you have a family and that is your primary income, your middle class, no?

Elle

Elle I am pretty sure 100K makes you poor in certain parts of New York.

In the rest of the world 100K after taxes is pretty much middle class.
 
You know, I don't quite understand why some people say $100 k a year is not that high of a salary relative to the cost of living in NYC or in general. I would think $100 k is definitely a high income considering that most people in the United States will never make that kind of money. The median income in the US is what? about $35,000-40 k? As a pharmacist, you can make nearly three times what your average joe would make. If the average joe "survives", what makes anyone even doubt he or she would not be financially empowered to live the kind of life they'd like to live?

There are many people who make far less than $100 k/year and they have mortgages of their own. Making a pharmacist's salary puts you in the top 10-15% of the US population, so you are definitely well off. Hell, even if salaries did drop to 40 dollars per hour (which translates into nearly 80 k per year), you are still well above average in terms of financial freedom. From a sociological standpoint on the generic "middle class", if you'd like to divide the middle class into the "lower middle class", "middle class", and "upper middle class", pharmacists are undoubtedly part of the latter group.

Further, what is it with the talk about NYC and the salary? Once again, millions of people live in NYC and manage to survive somehow; again, few people make $100 k or more. As a matter of fact, I am a New Yorker (though I'm a pharmacy student in Florida) and my mother makes $65 k a year and is quite comfortable, so I don't know what anyone is talking about. The point is, on a pharmacist's salary, you will enjoy the finer things in life and that is a privilege most people will never have unless they marry a rich partner or win the lottery and as long as you don't decide to pop out more than 2 children. You really want to enjoy life yet have a child? Just have one child and you'll have more money for your pleasure; that's what i'm planning on doing...
 
I have no concrete evidence to back myself up and this is just my opinion, but I don't think pharmacists will EVER make that low of a salary, $40 k per year. Why? Considering the cost of a pharmacy education and that tuition and educational expenses continue to rise, who in their right mind would even bother attending school for six to eight years and get into massive debt to become a pharmacist only to make $40 k? It wouldn't be reasonable. Just about NO ONE would do it. Doctoral level/professional career merits a higher than average salary; if the salary were really that low, then educational requirements to get into the field and tuition expenses should decrease accordingly; however, this never happens. While supply and demand is the major determinant of salary for a professional in any discipline, one also has to consider the correlation between more schooling and salary. Generally, the more education you have, the more you usually make and vice versa. Keyword: "Generally". What incentive is there when students realize there is no point in pursuing so much education if you are not going to be well compensated at the end of the journey?
 
You know, I don't quite understand why some people say $100 k a year is not that high of a salary relative to the cost of living in NYC or in general. I would think $100 k is definitely a high income considering that most people in the United States will never make that kind of money. The median income in the US is what? about $35,000-40 k? As a pharmacist, you can make nearly three times what your average joe would make. If the average joe "survives", what makes anyone even doubt he or she would not be financially empowered to live the kind of life they'd like to live?

There are many people who make far less than $100 k/year and they have mortgages of their own. Making a pharmacist's salary puts you in the top 10-15% of the US population, so you are definitely well off. Hell, even if salaries did drop to 40 dollars per hour (which translates into nearly 80 k per year), you are still well above average in terms of financial freedom. From a sociological standpoint on the generic "middle class", if you'd like to divide the middle class into the "lower middle class", "middle class", and "upper middle class", pharmacists are undoubtedly part of the latter group.

Further, what is it with the talk about NYC and the salary? Once again, millions of people live in NYC and manage to survive somehow; again, few people make $100 k or more. As a matter of fact, I am a New Yorker (though I'm a pharmacy student in Florida) and my mother makes $65 k a year and is quite comfortable, so I don't know what anyone is talking about. The point is, on a pharmacist's salary, you will enjoy the finer things in life and that is a privilege most people will never have unless they marry a rich partner or win the lottery and as long as you don't decide to pop out more than 2 children. You really want to enjoy life yet have a child? Just have one child and you'll have more money for your pleasure; that's what i'm planning on doing...



There was a study done not too long ago re. NYC comparing salaries/cost of living. I wish I could find the data, but I do remember reading that a family of 4 living in NYC with earnings of 65K per year was considered poverty level.
A single person earning 65K per year can be quite comfortable (like your mother), IF they are fortunate enough to have a decent rent/mortgage. Most living quite comfortably at this salary have owned their homes for many years, and their mortgage payments are no more than 1K per month.
If they're renting, they've probably been in their apt. for quite a few years and are fortunate enough to have a very modest rent (which is most likely below 1K per month.)
Unfortunately, anyone just starting out in NYC will find it quite difficult to live comfortably here making 100K or less. Tax rate here is approximately 33% of your salary, which leaves you with 67K per year (about 5,500 take home per month). This may get you quite far in other states, but not in NYC. If you do the math... minus at least 1,000/mo. for student loans, 1,500 rent for a shoebox in a decent area, 500 utilities), you're not left with much for food and leisure spending. $600 per week to spend on meals and pleasure is doable, but you are definitely not going to be living the high life!
I've also forgotten to include that if you will be insuring your car here in NYC, you will find one of the highest rates in the country (at least $200 per month for a driver with a clean record-and that's just for liability, never mind full coverage on a new vehicle!) Full coverage on a new vehicle is about 6K per year.
On a final note, if you want to save for your own home here in NYC, be prepared to pay at least 700K for an old home needing a whole lot of renovation!!! There are many newcomers here making very decent salaries of 100K or more who are aware that buying a home in NYC is a far fetched dream - so they focus on planning to buy a 2 bedroom co-op (and if they're lucky, they'll find one for under 500K.)
A single person making 200K per year will be well-off living in NYC. 100K will only give you a comfortable living, and that's if you spend your money wisely!!!
 
I would think $100 k is definitely a high income considering that most people in the United States will never make that kind of money.

... most people in the US also did not slave to get straight As in a year of genchem, a year of orgo, a year of calc, a year of physics, biochem, immunology, genetics & micro. Let alone time and test prep for the PCAT/MCAT. Or rack up $150k worth of student loans in grad school and potentially defer real income until after a residency or fellowship ... let alone have all this money and effort hinge on how you do on your boards.

If most people in the US did that, then I would agree. But I don't think most of us would have contorted our lives and credit scores just to be content with making anything close to the median =X
 
You have to have a 4.0 science GPA to get into pharm or medicine?
 
You have to have a 4.0 science GPA to get into pharm or medicine?

not withstanding his hyperbole about needing straight As, the rest of his post is quite accurate.

The "average" American that has an "average" income doesn't need to go through the rigmarole that we do to make the money that we do. That said, there are a NUMBER of jobs that make as much as, or even more than, Pharmacists do and have quite a deal less education. My brother is a CalTrans worker (California's DoT labor arm). He is the guy holding the "SLOW / STOP" sign at construction sites... He makes $75/hr. He has a GED. My best friend Michael graduated with me from Stanford. With his Bachelor's only, he got a job as a Hazardous Materials inspector in Orange County, and a Fire Inspector in Pleasanton, and he makes $60/hr. With a Bachelor's degree. Those are just two anecdotal examples and I am quite sure many people can think of many more.

It's not so much your salary, but like it's been brought up time and time again, it's how you live your life! Children are an enormous money sink, as are fancy cars and huge houses. In most parts of CA, $100,000 a year won't comfortably afford you a decent house (400kish), 3 children and a wife that stays at home. It'd be a very squalid living with very little savings. However, take 1 or 2 children out of that equation and voila, a lot more disposable income. Add a wife that works full-time instead of staying at home, and voila, more disposable income.

I think too many people see "$90,000 annually" in a vacuum without considering all the variables related to the salary.
 
Along the same lines, are there any retail pharmacies who widely offer a 7 on / 7 off schedule? Seems like that is widely clinical pharmacies?
 
I think Walgreen's gives you 2 weeks vacation, but if you come from another company and you had 3 weeks there, they will match you. After 5 years, you get 3 weeks vacation. After 10 or 15 years (I forget) you get 4 weeks vacation. I have no clue how much they pay in Atlanta, but I think vacation is all across the board.
 
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